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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

We should be angling to get involved as a football only with whatever Oregon St and Washington St are doing, maybe with USF or Memphis as a partner. That’s the best opportunity possible right now and it will help the PAC/MWC get more east of the Mississippi attention. I’m not sure that UConn is even interested in football only in the AAC at this point.
 
Hoophound said:
We should be angling to get involved as a football only with whatever Oregon St and Washington St are doing, maybe with USF or Memphis as a partner. That’s the best opportunity possible right now and it will help the PAC/MWC get more east of the Mississippi attention. I’m not sure that UConn is even interested in football only in the AAC at this point.
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Why would this make any sense for a west coast conference?
 
Fishy said:
Why would this make any sense for a west coast conference?
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It probably doesn’t. However, the PAC was the weakest link because they were stuck with west coast time slots most of the time. Getting those schools more play in the East may be appealing for tv deals. Yormark was interested in more of an east coast presence, so it’s worth a couple phone calls.

My comment is about what we should be investigating. It doesn’t mean it will work out or make sense in the end. I can easily see AD Dave thinking that Indy for football is better than AAC for football as currently constituted, whereas football only in a new PAC or beefed up Mountain West would be awesome for us. I’d definitely try to put it out there.
 
shizzle787 said:
This is bad for us.
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Hindsight is 20/20 but I think looking back at it that staying in the AAC and focusing on improving our football and basketball within that conference really would’ve been the better move in the long term.

Yes it may have taken basketball a little longer to turn it around but Hurley is a damn good coach and good coaches make things work regardless of the situation. Plus we would’ve had quality opponents in football. Maybe not regionally close but UCF Cinci Tulane Houston are all solid teams. It wouldve been hard for the Big 12 to pass us up if we were beating them consistently on the court and the field.
 
Mora4Prez said:
Hindsight is 20/20 but I think looking back at it that staying in the AAC and focusing on improving our football and basketball within that conference really would’ve been the better move in the long term.

Yes it may have taken basketball a little longer to turn it around but Hurley is a damn good coach and good coaches make things work regardless of the situation. Plus we would’ve had quality opponents in football. Maybe not regionally close but UCF Cinci Tulane Houston are all solid teams. It wouldve been hard for the Big 12 to pass us up if we were beating them consistently on the court and the field.
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The AAC is garbage, and there is no guarantee we would have beaten out Houston or UCF for a Big 12 spot.
 
shizzle787 said:
The AAC is garbage, and there is no guarantee we would have beaten out Houston or UCF for a Big 12 spot.
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i mean it’s garbage now but I think it’s pretty ironic to have us call it garbage back then when we were losing to every single team in the league.

All the good AAC teams found a home except for Tulane and Memphis which I’m sure are on the top of people’s list. And now the Indy’s have almost fully emptied out. Even NMSU found a home. I just think it was short sighted of us to assume this was the best route to a P5.
 
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Mora4Prez said:
Hindsight is 20/20 but I think looking back at it that staying in the AAC and focusing on improving our football and basketball within that conference really would’ve been the better move in the long term.

Yes it may have taken basketball a little longer to turn it around but Hurley is a damn good coach and good coaches make things work regardless of the situation. Plus we would’ve had quality opponents in football. Maybe not regionally close but UCF Cinci Tulane Houston are all solid teams. It wouldve been hard for the Big 12 to pass us up if we were beating them consistently on the court and the field.
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You are correct, hindsight is 20/20. Basketball and football were both dying in the AAC and there was no way either program was turning it around in the AAC Gulag.
 
Mora4Prez said:
i mean it’s garbage now but I think it’s pretty ironic to have us call it garbage back then when we were losing to every single team in the league.

All the good AAC teams found a home except for Tulane and Memphis which I’m sure are on the top of people’s list. And now the Indy’s have almost fully emptied out. Even NMSU found a home. I just think it was short sighted of us to assume this was the best route to a P5.
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It was the best route back to athletic relevance.
 
Hoophound said:
It probably doesn’t. However, the PAC was the weakest link because they were stuck with west coast time slots most of the time. Getting those schools more play in the East may be appealing for tv deals. Yormark was interested in more of an east coast presence, so it’s worth a couple phone calls.

My comment is about what we should be investigating. It doesn’t mean it will work out or make sense in the end. I can easily see AD Dave thinking that Indy for football is better than AAC for football as currently constituted, whereas football only in a new PAC or beefed up Mountain West would be awesome for us. I’d definitely try to put it out there.
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A tire kick for football only is fine. Nothing to get nervous about
 
Fishy said:
Why would this make any sense for a west coast conference?
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We are a brand. More of one than Oregon State or Washington State.
We and they have to align with the best brands still on the outside.
 
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shizzle787 said:
It was the best route back to athletic relevance.
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Lol, I can think of a few other ways...

College Basketball Sport GIF by NCAA March Madness
 
Point6 said:
Pepsi would be on the outside of the All Coke Conference. Fanta Orange would make it in.
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Ganya Otangr is a bazillion times better than Pepsi. So is RC Cola.

Pepsi is marginally better than Rutgers.
 
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Will Army join for all sports or just football? If all sports, this is very bad for our FB independence.
 
Army will remain in the Patriot League with Navy.

Both would be FB-only members of the American.
 
Point6 said:
We are a brand. More of one than Oregon State or Washington State.
We and they have to align with the best brands still on the outside.
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UConn basketball is a brand. It got you an affiliation with a bunch of non-peer schools in the new Big East. Some UConn fans are ecstatic about that arrangement, and some aren't.

As regards football, you don't have a brand, you have a reputation. So did Yugo. An 0-2 start and losing to the likes of Georgia State burnishes that reputation.

There's no such thing as a free lunch. If UConn aspires to join a more balanced power conference, it'll first need to demonstrate consistent success in a lesser conference. And that is apparently unacceptable to those of you who think that no lesser conference is good enough for UConn -- that UConn somehow deserves better. Imagine trying to climb a ladder with no bottom or lower rungs.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Will Army join for all sports or just football? If all sports, this is very bad for our FB independence.
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It would be football only, but why would where Army plays Basketball matter to the football independence? The issue is if Army plays football in conference it has fewer available dates for UConn. I think UConn would still be attractive to Army as an opponent, but fewer openings means fewer opportunities.
 
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