Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[JeepCSC]

He went to (drumroll please), UNC. As did the governor. They'll do what they can but nothing more.

 

[Rufus]

Doesn't sound like they are connected at the hip to me.

 

[UCFBfan]

1. You have lawyers for friends? You need better friends.

2. So you get information from a friend in a position to know something, and blithely dismiss it to believe in conspiracies you read about on the internet? Just wow. 2023 in a nutshell.

 

[Viet Vet]

ND could threaten to start a new conference with Stanford and California. That would get the ACC motivated.

ND will never join any conference other than the BiG. Geography, shared culture, and demographics will dictate their future.

“Rudy” ain’t leaving metropolitan Chicago.

 

[ramses 2.0]

He went to (drumroll please), UNC. As did the governor. They'll do what they can but nothing more.

They won't be doing much of anything since both will be out of office this year & doesn't matter right now cause UNC not looking to anywhere for awhile

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Patrick79]

Its about getting your foot in the door. People can talk about the ACC getting picked apart in 11-12 years (or I guess sooner if a school comes up with hundreds of millions of dollars I suppose). But in the end our best hope from a football standpoint is the ACC anyway and the whole waiting until the ACC GOR is over isn't a great idea because we may not even survive independence for another 11-12 years.

Lets say we get 10 mil. What is that, an extra $5 mil per year? So lets say we throw that toward essentially paying off the exit fee over a 6 year period. Perhaps if Mora is in a real football league we are competing for some of that bowl incentive money to also help offset the exit fee. In the ACC our attendance goes up for football, more ticket revenue. And on and on.

I don't love the idea of begging but we are in a tough spot. Of course if one doesn't give a damn about the football program, it's definitely not worth it I suppose.

Guess this shows how many unknowns there are about where things are going. My analysis on that move to the ACC is:

• It's break-even: Even after the 6 years, we still have to consider interest and other fees with planning and the transition. It's probably not all that lucrative for Uconn to switch.
• Sports is break-even at best, but may actually decline: I don't think BBall will be better - we're already recruiting top notch and fan interest won't be higher in the ACC, even w/ Duke and UNC. I think Uconn fans are going to be more excited to play at MSG and be a part of the BE's trajectory which is heating up. In Fball: BC, Cuse, Pitt, Lville, WVU, Rutgers didn't do better with a switch to the ACC (and B12 and B10), so I don't think you can automatically count on Uconn doing better.
• Foot in the door is = handcuffs: With a GOR, we'll be on equal footing with every ACC team in a decade when the SEC and B10 come to fill their spots. That's not favorable to us since we'll be competing with FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, Duke, etc. In other words, we'd need to bank on the ACC holding together which I just don't think can happen given the distribution of revenue. Of course, this is the x-factor. On the other hand, by remaining where we are, we are essentially the most attractive option for conferences for the next decade--the other teams (in the ACC) are off the market for the most part.

I legit believe that the end game for us is probably a 1) re-organized ACC (the left-overs combined with BE), followed by 2) an expanded B12, 3) staying where we are, 4) the ACC as it looks today or 5) B10 (unlikely but could happen depending on how things shift/develop). I'm not seeing the need to lock ourselves into the ACC for break-even revenue while taking ourselves off the market for better options.

 

[Patman]

Ct taxpayers are financing the ACC via ESPN tax breaks.

so the other option is ESPN moves out of the area and I'm sure they're tempted to move to a better tax state

 

[#1 PA Husky Fan]

so the other option is ESPN moves out of the area and I'm sure they're tempted to move to a better tax state

It’s really hard to move a company’s headquarters.

 

[shizzle787]

I was listening to a Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) and he mentioned that if the next president bans pharma ads on cable TV (not impossible), 75% of cable ad revenue will go away and that will kill sports deals.

 

[BigTenFan]

The really interesting issue is that if four objectors are basically holding out until all or the vast majority of this money accrues to them, does another school change it to vote to no? I mean no amount of money the ACC allocates to FSU is ever going to placate them. Why bother trying?

If those 3 schools get offer then ESPN gives conference 72 million to split- probably unevenly between other ACC schools
Seems like a completely disfunctional way to run an organization. Hypothetically -Syracuse gets 3% while FSU gets 60%

Bad business will create bad outcomes for most of the Universities in that conference.

 

[noeynox]

I was listening to a Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) and he mentioned that if the next president bans pharma ads on cable TV (not impossible), 75% of cable ad revenue will go away and that will kill sports deals.

You certainly can't watch a ball game and not get like 6 ads for conditions you didn't know existed.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I was listening to a Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) and he mentioned that if the next president bans pharma ads on cable TV (not impossible), 75% of cable ad revenue will go away and that will kill sports deals.

Many country ban ads from pharmaceutical companies with USA being the exception. All the doctors are trained and encouraged by the pharma reps to give prescriptions every chance they get. Same drug in the USA can cost 10x what Canadians pay just across the border. Health care is truly for profit while pharmaceutical lobby interests heavily influence government policies.

That's the system we got.

 

[UConnJim]

If those 3 schools get offer then ESPN gives conference 72 million to split- probably unevenly between other ACC schools
Seems like a completely disfunctional way to run an organization. Hypothetically -Syracuse gets 3% while FSU gets 60%

Bad business will create bad outcomes for most of the Universities in that conference.

The travel for non-revenue sports would be terrible for the ACC schools as Cal and Stanford play many sports that would then play in the ACC. Think men's sports: baseball, cross country, golf, rowing, swimming and diving, tennis, track and field, wrestling. women's sports: cross country, field hockey, golf, gymnastics, lacrosse, rowing, soccer, softball, swimming and diving, tennis, track and field, volleyball.

Why would the ACC schools consider adding Stanford and Cal (or SMU), when you would get a small boost in revenues and a big increase in costs? $70 million divided by 14.33 = ~$5 million per school if split equally and other conference payouts like NCAA basketball credits and CFP payouts would be diluted by adding 3 schools. If our 3% for Syracuse is correct, they would get $2.1 million in revenues, then have higher travel costs and diluted NCAA and CFP payouts. Crazy if the add them.

 

[Patman]

It’s really hard to move a company’s headquarters.

Been done before, will happen again.

 

[uconnyankee]

Been done before, will happen again.

Yep.
Case in point, GE went from CT to MA.
Not saying the situations were/are comparable, but companies will leave if they think there is a better location.

Many states would gladly woo ESPN with tax breaks and other incentives.

 

[CL82]

Been done before, will happen again.

True, but ESPN has invested a lot and in the Bristol campus. Leaving there isn't some things that they would do lightly.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Yep.
Case in point, GE went from CT to MA.
Not saying the situations were/are comparable, but companies will leave if they think there is a better location.

Many states would gladly woo ESPN with tax breaks and other incentives.

Then let them go. How much welfare are we supposed to give corporations? How many more free lunches do they need?

 

[Waquoit]

Yep.
Case in point, GE went from CT to MA.
Not saying the situations were/are comparable, but companies will leave if they think there is a better location.

The guy who orchestrated the move, moved back to Connecticut.

 

[noeynox]

Then let them go. How much welfare are we supposed to give corporations? How many more free lunches do they need?

How many jobs does espn provide to ct residents?

 

[Bongo Fury]

I remember when they were in trailers. I imagine CT does benefit with ESPN being here.

 

[djct1999]

so the other option is ESPN moves out of the area and I'm sure they're tempted to move to a better tax state

Adios!

 

[Rewster]

Adios!

I wonder what would happen if Apple bought them

 

[Mora4Prez]

how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?

 

[noeynox]

how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?

Might be a little late, but more commitment to football is the only way.