Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Punkbo]

Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Princeton are the Big 4 of college endowments. They have the wealth and prestige to avoid temptation when it comes to college athletics. I get it. We all succumb to temptation at times. We have seen these institutions bend when it comes to academic standards for athletes, flexibility around NIL and post-season tournaments.

Stanford currently stands at an important crossroads. Their conference colleagues have left them behind in conference realignment. Their president has been ousted amidst allegations of ethical improprieties. They may even decide to join some of their former colleagues in a P2 conference at a reduced economic. However, if Stanford decides to join the ACC or the Big 12, it will be the most extreme case of capitulation we have ever seen in college athletics. I hope it doesn’t happen.

 

[djct1999]

Yeah those schools are going to leave a conference that pays more and fits their geographical make up for the B12.

If Clemson, fsu, unc and uva leave, these four schools will most certainly pick the big 12 over the remaining acc.

 

[NH Husky]

Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Princeton are the Big 4 of college endowments. They have the wealth and prestige to avoid temptation when it comes to college athletics. I get it. We all succumb to temptation at times. We have seen these institutions bend when it comes to academic standards for athletes, flexibility around NIL and post-season tournaments.

Stanford currently stands at an important crossroads. Their conference colleagues have left them behind in conference realignment. Their president has been ousted amidst allegations of ethical improprieties. They may even decide to join some of their former colleagues in a P2 conference at a reduced economic. However, if Stanford decides to join the ACC or the Big 12, it will be the most extreme case of capitulation we have ever seen in college athletics. I hope it doesn’t happen.

Stanford will do like Notre Dame. Football independent, park all other sports in whoever they deem adequate. I think MW would work fine for them. And MW would love it.

Probably convince Berkeley to do the same.

 

[CTBballfan243]

Still no room for UConn

 

[Drumguy]

To be clear, UConn stayed to collect every programs tourney credits.

Part of the settlement was the Catholic schools got the name and the football schools got the credits.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

From Malloy it means nothing. From Ned Lamont, maybe

What do you expect from a Double Eagle?

At least he’s gone off to single-handily destroy the U Maine system now and is not our problem.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

We pretty clearly have zero value to any conference. At least now I can stop paying attention to realignment again.

It's pretty clear we have value ergo the reason is something else.

 

[Mora4Prez]

It's pretty clear we have value ergo the reason is something else.

How is it clear we have value? When nobody is buying a product it’s usually considered not valuable.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

If the ACC takes stanford, cal, wash state and ore state and doesnt take Uconn -- and Tulane for that matter -- it will be a real kick in the gut for UConn (and Tulane).

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Cal and Stanford will get into the ACC over us. Book it.

imagine if the acc took Ore state and Wash state too over us. Yuck.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

You are totally wrong. UConn will soon be in a different conference!

The MAC?

 

[upstater]

Fox was never going to let the Big12 take UConn. Fox gets UConn for pennies in the BE.

Why would Fox pay UConn 8x more --- all while destroying the amazing Big East content they have?

It was never going to happen, no matter what Yormack wanted

Fox only has the BE for one more year. But I understand what you're saying. Personally I've always liked ESPN more. Hope the BE moves.

 

[upstater]

Unless there is an endowment specifically for sports.

I know that William and Mary has all of their football scholarships endowed. That means the interest from the endowment is what pays for the scholarships. Or something like that.

Like I said in my post, this is counted as athletics revenue 99% of the time.

 

[upstater]

Couldn’t agree more. I don’t understand it and maybe I never will but that seems to be the general consensus from the decision makers.

This is true only if you ignore what happened to UConn 2x in the ACC expansion. Many schools and administrators assessed UConn to be the prime target, 2x.

Both times UConn was muscled out, once blackballed by BC, and then tossed by FSU and Clemson.

 

[SinBin]

If the ACC takes stanford, cal, wash state and ore state and doesnt take Uconn -- and Tulane for that matter -- it will be a real kick in the gut for UConn (and Tulane).

Rule #1

 

[MKH2317]

Rule #1

Starting to feel like Law #1

 

[SinBin]

I find it confusing how the state hasn’t put pressure on ESPN in all of these years of realignment. The state could save tens of millions of dollars annually by UConn being in a power conference.

Perhaps the media partners aren't the only ones who are stupid.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This is true only if you ignore what happened to UConn 2x in the ACC expansion. Many schools and administrators assessed UConn to be the prime target, 2x.

Both times UConn was muscled out, once blackballed by BC, and then tossed by FSU and Clemson.

UConn has been blackballed by BCU for over 20 years.

 

[upstater]

How is it clear we have value? When nobody is buying a product it’s usually considered not valuable.

Think of it as a vertical distribution network. The product has value but can't get into the proper channels because the distributors are owned by the producers all the way up.

 

[SinBin]

UConn has been blackballed by BCU for over 20 years.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how the vote went when Hockey East added UConn?

 

[CL82]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how the vote went when Hockey East added UConn?

Pretty sure it was unanimous, because the official votes are almost always unanimous.

 

[aburks41]

The ratings of the games in the new conferences will be higher than the ratings of the games in the PAC-12. Higher ratings = higher charge for commercials = more revenue for the media partners.

Is that not collusion then? I feel like there could be some sort of lawsuit

 

[RegisteredUconn]

How is it clear we have value? When nobody is buying a product it’s usually considered not valuable.

At this point, value is a given. There is no need for proof. It is a given, for example, because you have the leader of a major conference stating that football is no longer the only game in town. Basketball demands consideration. OK, who's important there? The schools that are good. How do you determine that? Whoever wins the championship is the best. Who won the championships? Over the last quarter century, we have the most. Ergo, Given: We have value.

Sales (realignment) aren't concluded yet. Pros and cons are still being debated. The landscape is still being shaped. New bidders keep entering the market. Whenever a house is listed for sale, it doesn't mean its value is zero just because a transaction hasn't been concluded.

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

The networks don’t control conference realignment!

they sure do!

 

[Mora4Prez]

At this point, value is a given. There is no need for proof. It is a given, for example, because you have the leader of a major conference stating that football is no longer the only game in town. Basketball demands consideration. OK, who's important there? The schools that are good. How do you determine that? Whoever wins the championship is the best. Who won the championships? Over the last quarter century, we have the most. Ergo, Given: We have value.

Sales (realignment) aren't concluded yet. Pros and cons are still being debated. The landscape is still being shaped. New bidders keep entering the market. Whenever a house is listed for sale, it doesn't mean its value is zero just because a transaction hasn't been concluded.

Ok I hear you and you make valid points but at the end of the day it’s not like this is our first go-around in the “sales” cycle. We’ve been dismissed multiple times over the past 2 decades. You can’t discount that.