Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[ctchamps]

Appreciate it. Whether it's true or not, I hope UConn leaked it to light a fire under the Big 12's keister: sure, take Utah if you want, but you'll risk kissing the New York area goodbye forever.

I still think Yormack wants Arizona and UConn and had to do a lot of convincing to Arizona that it was either Arizona State or Utah and they could choose. And he had to be careful in his approach in order not to alienate them.

Arizona does not have much leverage. So hopefully this is how it plays out.

Unless you think the B12 presidents witnessed what happened with their conference’s fate compared to what’s happening in the PAC and told him to shove his northeast ideas. I don’t think they would react that way. Not smart to tick off a commissioner who saved them.

 

[jostar1]

 

[djct1999]

So when is UConn's board meeting next?

20 minutes

 

[superjohn]

same to you my friend.

maybe in 60+ years uconn will finally able to get an invite from a relevant conference. would love for you to be able to see it.

I'm planning on watching UConn win another national championship next April, they're always a blast. Wish you could experience it once in your life.

 

[hoopsfan22]

If it's the two Arizona schools and Utah we'll know Yormark is full of crap. I can't imagine he doesn't have the juice to get his way and expand East/NYC and showcase the untapped basketball value after he's gotten the school presidents what they want. These Pac schools are all out for themselves and don't have the bargaining chips, there is no 4 corner schools block.

It's possible Yormark doesn't have the vote to add us. Not everyone thinks that highly of the east/NYC region.

 

[superjohn]

It's possible Yormark doesn't have the vote to add us. Not everyone thinks that highly of the east/NYC region.

Yeah, that doesn't add up for me.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Found @GoKU twitter?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I'm not ready to concede anything yet but if it does end up being the two Arizona schools and Utah the possibility exists that the media partners were involved to some extent. They would be more willing to pay P5 football dollars to schools that have been P5 for an extended time (with the newest being the strongest program) than a school that they have no reason to believe can be competitive at a P5 level in football for the foreseeable future.

It sucks, it's small minded thinking but small minded thinking has been television's MO since Truman was president.

 

[Jimbo]

I still think Yormack wants Arizona and UConn and had to do a lot of convincing to Arizona that it was either Arizona State or Utah and they could choose. And he had to be careful in his approach in order not to alienate them.

Arizona does not have much leverage. So hopefully this is how it plays out.

Unless you think the B12 presidents witnessed what happened with their conference’s fate compared to what’s happening in the PAC and told him to shove his northeast ideas. I don’t think they would react that way. Not smart to tick off a commissioner who saved them.

Oh I agree, I don't think Yormark's mind has changed. It is the Big 12 presidents I'm worried about. I don't know what they're thinking; sadly, I think it's possible that some of them can't wrap their minds around passing on a current P5 school (any current P5 school) to choose UConn instead. Of course it would be wise of them to trust Yormark's vision, as you say, and I hope they see it that way as well.

 

[Fishy]

Why would the p5 status matter to a college hoops coach? If anything isn't getting paid a top salary while also being the top dog on a campus a benefit? I'm not so sure the p5 would break off to have their own tournament and the Big East would be excluded. There has to be more than just teams from the big ten, big 12, sec and acc in that tournament.

I do agree the next Big east tv deal is likely to be awful, so agree there.

Maybe necessitates a move to the MAC or another league that would take us as football only because you're right we get $0 from the CFP.

1) Because that’s where the money will be. It’s more than salary - it’s player benefits, travel, staff pool, facilities, etc., all stuff that costs money. Assuming that we can keep up when our rights revenue only covers 2/3rds of the coaches salary is a bridge too far.

2) The MAC will not take us. (See UMass, MAC.) Putting football in CUSA or whatever league that is desperate enough to take us will not be a pretty sight.

3) Everyone knows that the NCAA is not going to last forever, right? There will be a split and there’s no magical bubble protecting basketball from that. The PAC12 has existed for a century and is about to be torn apart by its peers so people who think that kindness and goodwill will save basketball are just not paying attention.

 

[djct1999]

Oh I agree, I don't think Yormark's mind has changed. It is the Big 12 presidents I'm worried about. I don't know what they're thinking; sadly, I think it's possible that some of them can't wrap their minds around passing on a current G5 school (any current G5 school) to choose UConn instead. Of course it would be wise of them to trust Yormark's vision, as you say, and I hope they see it that way as well.

The big 12 presidents will do whatever he recommends. They care about the bottom line not how a football team has done the last 10 years. It’s up to fox.

 

[hoopsfan22]

The big 12 presidents will do whatever he recommends. They care about the bottom line not how a football team has done the last 10 years. It’s up to fox.

Doesn't Fox already have us for like $4 million a year? Why would they want to move us to the Big 12 to pay us $32 million a year?

 

[djct1999]

Doesn't Fox already have us for like $4 million a year? Why would they want to move us to the Big 12 to pay us $32 million a year?

Exactly

 

[ctchamps]

Oh I agree, I don't think Yormark's mind has changed. It is the Big 12 presidents I'm worried about. I don't know what they're thinking; sadly, I think it's possible that some of them can't wrap their minds around passing on a current G5 school (any current G5 school) to choose UConn instead. Of course it would be wise of them to trust Yormark's vision, as you say, and I hope they see it that way as well.

The attitude of many of the mens bb posters prior to this years postseason was Hurley needs to get past the first round otherwise he will begin to be on the hot seat. Fast forward to the present and a frequent saying is “in Hurley we trust”.

The presidents may have preferences who they want in their conference. The presidents may have an aversion to a northeastern school. The presidents might not like the traveling.

But all of that has to be looked at next to what Yormack has accomplished. It’s hard to go against success especially when the success was absolutely unexpected. Most likely they’ll reward that success by following his lead.

 

[JMick]

Yeah, that doesn't add up for me.

it does for me. I wouldn't be surprised if some presidents don't want to be in the North East market for their own reasons.

 

[Ha Who]

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1gqGvyQaBpQKB

 

[superjohn]

1) Because that’s where the money will be. It’s more than salary - it’s player benefits, travel, staff pool, facilities, etc., all stuff that costs money. Assuming that we can keep up when our rights revenue only covers 2/3rds of the coaches salary is a bridge too far.

2) The MAC will not take us. (See UMass, MAC.) Putting football in CUSA or whatever league that is desperate enough to take us will not be a pretty sight.

3) Everyone knows that the NCAA is not going to last forever, right? There will be a split and there’s no magical bubble protecting basketball from that. The PAC12 has existed for a century and is about to be torn apart by its peers so people who think that kindness and goodwill will save basketball are just not paying attention.

3) Again, what does that look like? Is it a P-2, P-3, or P-4? Do they just abandon the regular season for basketball and run a 54-56 team tournament where every single team from the P-whatever is invited?

 

[aburks41]

Doesn't Fox already have us for like $4 million a year? Why would they want to move us to the Big 12 to pay us $32 million a year?

I think the split is Fox pays $11M and ESPN pays $20M.

Going from $4M to $11M isn’t that big if a stretch, especially considering $4M is extremely undervalued and doesn’t include UConn football

 

[JMick]

3) Again, what does that look like? Is it a P-2, P-3, or P-4? Do they just abandon the regular season for basketball and run a 54-56 team tournament where every single team from the P-whatever is invited?

oh they will 100% ruin college basketball by modeling it after the NBA playoffs.

 

[uconnbaseball]

GoKU said the Big12 was not calling Utah. So take that with a grain of salt

GoKU is an internet troll.

 

[djct1999]

it does for me. I wouldn't be surprised if some presidents don't want to be in the North East market for their own reasons.

Boosters maybe. Presidents don’t care at all.

 

[superjohn]

it does for me. I wouldn't be surprised if some presidents don't want to be in the North East market for their own reasons.

That wouldn't surprise me, what would surprise me is if they crap all over the commissioner who saved their conference of relatively weak schools and positioned them as the third conference and got them a contract they really had no business getting.

 

[JMick]

GoKU is an internet troll.

when we don't get in he shall be known as kuanon.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

If BC can blackball UConn out of the ACC, surely BYU can do the same with Utah

 

[JMick]

That wouldn't surprise me, what would surprise me is if they crap all over the commissioner who saved their conference of relatively weak schools and positioned them as the third conference and got them a contract they really had no business getting.

they're college administrators. they all think they're geniuses and know better than everyone else.