Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[RSTuthill]

Torres is just another blowhard talking head. He is extrapolating a BY remark from a week ago to mean that the B12 will not go past 14 and that in his opinion the 14th will be AZ. No citation of a source. So he knows no more than we do.

On the other hand apparently ESPN posted something similar? Whether or not that was prior to or after the B1G news I have no idea. The B1G news changes everything.

 

[metsfan2323]

If AD DB wasnt confident, would he really have given Hurley a contract that is more than the tv revenue.

Yes, he would have. There are other forms of basketball revenue and Hurley is important to all of them.

 

[JeepCSC]

I think some of these Presidents are just very anti-northeast. Probably OkSt based on Tramel carrying water for someone.

I imagine those old Pace commercials that ended with “New York City!?! Get a rope.”

 

[UConn Dan]

If AD DB wasnt confident, would he really have given Hurley a contract that is more than the tv revenue. His actions say one thing that people are ignroing, his words........well, it’s been radio silence.

I don’t Hurley’s salary is tied to TV deal. Basketball revenue (tickets, sponsors, merch) and donors are more than enough to cover Hurley’s salary

 

[RSTuthill]

Torres said if it’s 14 then AZ wins

He also said it would be 14.

 

[JMick]

Yormark's entire strategy, is coast to coast, with a global presence. He wants/needs NYC to remain viable long term. Only one school provides that. This idea that football only is driving the bus is outdated. Yormark knows long term what UConn provides. Its not that hard a sell and Presidents should understand that vision. The silence is causing massive speculation by the herd. Maybe nothing has changed. They are postering for 16. If it was just Arizona and 14 schools, i think it would have been made public over the weekend.

It doesn't make any sense for Tramel to be so obsessed with us unless he's got someone in his ear that's willing to talk just to get their perspective out there. The alternative is that he's just making things up.

Now, the good news about that is people wouldn't be in his ear about the negatives surrounding UConn if there wasn't real chatter and momentum for us being added.

The bad news is that someone or a faction is very clearly against adding us and doesn't want to budge, and is using his hit pieces to try and influence the direction of their plans.

 

[hoopsfan22]

On the other hand apparently ESPN posted something similar? Whether or not that was prior to or after the B1G news I have no idea. The B1G news changes everything.

But didn't someone say the B1G contract doesn't pay them more if teams are added? If you're an existing conference member are you willing to take a pay cut until the next contract just to add Washington or Clemson? If it was a team like Alabama, OK then maybe you consider it, but short of a team with that kind of impact, I don't know if you'd get enough people on board. That's enough reason to not buy into these B1G rumors.

 

[djct1999]

It doesn't make any sense for Tramel to be so obsessed with us unless he's got someone in his ear that's willing to talk just to get their perspective out there. The alternative is that he's just making things up.

Now, the good news about that is people wouldn't be in his ear about the negatives surrounding UConn if there wasn't real chatter and momentum for us being added.

The bad news is that someone or a faction is very clearly against adding us and doesn't want to budge, and is using his hit pieces to try and influence the direction of their plans.

The people talking on twitter, youtube, low circulation Oklahoman newspapers are using metrics from the first round of realignment. The paradigm has shifted. Yormark understands this and understands what it will take to survive long term. That screams UConn. Surely, Big 12 academics can wrap thier heads around this. I dont expect a guy named Berry or a pawn like Thamel to do the same.

 

[JMick]

The people talking on twitter, youtube, low circulation Oklahoman newspapers are using metrics from the first round of realignment. The paradigm has shifted. Yormark understands this and understands what it will take to survive long term. That screams UConn. Surely, Big 12 academics can wrap thier heads around this. I dont expect a guy named Berry or a pawn like Thamel to do the same.

you are missing the point.

Tramel is repeating what someone is telling him (or he is making things up/misinterpreting them). Sure it's an "opinion piece" by him but it's really someone elses opinion and he's putting it out into the ether as some part of a strategic play. If that wasn't the case then administrators from one or a couple schools wouldn't be talking to him and giving him their perspective.

Yormark doesn't automatically get whatever he wants and clearly there are people in the Big XII who don't want us in the Big XII, for whatever reason that may be. Maybe they really just hate Yankees

 

[Muddler]

It doesn't make any sense for Tramel to be so obsessed with us unless he's got someone in his ear that's willing to talk just to get their perspective out there. The alternative is that he's just making things up.

Now, the good news about that is people wouldn't be in his ear about the negatives surrounding UConn if there wasn't real chatter and momentum for us being added.

The bad news is that someone or a faction is very clearly against adding us and doesn't want to budge, and is using his hit pieces to try and influence the direction of their plans.

Well said.

 

[ctchamps]

The people talking on twitter, youtube, low circulation Oklahoman newspapers are using metrics from the first round of realignment. The paradigm has shifted. Yormark understands this and understands what it will take to survive long term. That screams UConn. Surely, Big 12 academics can wrap thier heads around this. I dont expect a guy named Berry or a pawn like Thamel to do the same.

I’ll see you Berry and Thamel and raise you GoKU.

Don’t mess with Goku

 

[djct1999]

you are missing the point.

Tramel is repeating what someone is telling him (or he is making things up/misinterpreting them). Sure it's an "opinion piece" by him but it's really someone elses opinion and he's putting it out into the ether as some part of a strategic play. If that wasn't the case then administrators from one or a couple schools wouldn't be talking to him and giving him their perspective.

Yormark doesn't automatically get whatever he wants and clearly there are people in the Big XII who don't want us in the Big XII, for whatever reason that may be. Maybe they really just hate Yankees

I understand the point. The guy in his ear can be anyone. Who is to say its a Big 12 President? Or anyone from the Big 12? Maybe its someone from the outside scared to be left out. I don't know. You don't know. Treat it as such.

 

[djct1999]

I’ll see you Berry and Thamel and raise you GoKU.

Don’t mess with Goku

Lmao. Still easier to swallow a guy on your side vs the opposite.

 

[superjohn]

Lmao. Still easier to swallow a guy on your side vs the opposite.

Ummmm...

 

[JMick]

I understand the point. The guy in his ear can be anyone. Who is to say its a Big 12 President? Or anyone from the Big 12? Maybe its someone from the outside scared to be left out. I don't know. You don't know. Treat it as such.

I'll treat it however I want to treat it.

 

[huskymedic]

The people talking on twitter, youtube, low circulation Oklahoman newspapers are using metrics from the first round of realignment. The paradigm has shifted. Yormark understands this and understands what it will take to survive long term. That screams UConn. Surely, Big 12 academics can wrap thier heads around this. I dont expect a guy named Berry or a pawn like Thamel to do the same.

To @JMick ’s point… the problem is that the words/opinions of the people carrying water for others gets amplified in other industry publications: From today’s D1 Ticker Newsletter:

 

[djct1999]

Most times, people in the media are pawns. On Wall Street, there is an inverse ETF on Jim Cramer's recommendations. Its quite popular. Why? Because he is wrong more times than he is right. Same here. There is little substance to anyone talking. The important people have all been silent.

 

[djct1999]

I'll treat it however I want to treat it.

Fine. Then stop being such an alarmist.

 

[djct1999]

Ummmm...

very poor choice of words. I meant GoKus opinion, of course.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I hope B12 dangled the 14 and one spot left thing to get P12 schools to move. I also hope it is Arizona and Arizona State they are trying to pry loose vs. just Arizona alone. I believe Yormark and the B12 got UConn and Colorado approved back in May 2023.

I also believe the rumor that #13 and #14 got already approved pro rata by ESPN and Fox, but #15 and #16 got approved by ESPN ($20M) but not yet by FOX ($11.7M). B12 is working with FOX to get the final approval for #15 and #16 pro rata.

The story that got floated over the weekend about B1G taking Oregon, Washington, Clemson, and FSU is just another rumor to destabilise the PAC-12. The story was probably floated by someone within the B12 to get Arizona and Arizona State to move. I wouldn't be surprised if was floated by Yormark's team. I don't believe Clemson makes sense for the B1G but FSU does.

Ultimately, the B12 wants to end up with Arizona, Arizona State, and UConn. It will be 3 in the West with 1 in the East.

 

[noeynox]

 

[JMick]

Fine. Then stop being such an alarmist.

last I checked you don't police what's said here.

 

[ctchamps]

Lmao. Still easier to swallow a guy on your side vs the opposite.

I think he’s legit. Kansas version of Matrim55.

 

[noeynox]

Our best hope remains, the Klavikoff presenting the PAC schools something worthwhile. Problem is PAC is in the same mode the Big East was when the FB schools began bailing. They cannot trust each other. Washington and Oregon have said no to a GOR with the PAC because they have their eyes on the PAC which must make negotiating a contract more difficult. We've already seen Colorado say to hell with this uncertainty. Others may soon follow.

 

[ctchamps]

Lmao. Still easier to swallow a guy on your side vs the opposite.

Not by the UConn people in this forum. They’ve been kicked so many times in the balls they classify themselves as its.