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JohnFSilver said:
Here is my view:

If Utah was going, we would have heard it by now.

I think Benedict putting the sign up and playing around was either a good sign - or a disastrous PR move.

We’ll see tonight. But I think Utah’s preference oreference would still be the same conference.

Think about this, after Oregon and Washington, who is the third best team in that league? They gonna get to a playoff once every 5 years or so while usc/ucla in the bIg 10? Good luck usc beating Ohio State.

Big 12 gonna be harder to make the playoff. Better league.
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i really do think that the pac 9 will pull a last minute hail mary and all say they are commited to staying.

Man, what do you think Stanford is doing/saying right now?
 
CL82 said:
Only conference not talking.

SEC, SEC, SEC...
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Could you imagine?! Maybe BY is on to something about the next big monetization in college sports being the basketball side of the house. SEC figures they already have the domination of college football clinched up so they make a power move on basketball. SEC decides to add: UConn, Arizona, Kansas, UNC, Duke, and Virginia. :D
 
UConn Dan said:
I don't think Utah is as far along in the process as the Arizona schools. They love the PAC and want to make it work first.

We'll see what happens. If they drag their feet, we've already been vetted and are ready to join.
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I’m still hoping you can leave for vacation with a smile on your face.
 
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UConnSportsGuy said:
Could you imagine?! Maybe BY is on to something about the next big monetization in college sports being the basketball side of the house. SEC figures they already have the domination of college football clinched up so they make a power move on basketball. SEC decides to add: UConn, Arizona, Kansas, UNC, Duke, and Virginia. :D
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They really should, throw Nova in as well. They would win every single national championship in football and basketball.
 
At this point one of two things will happen:

a.) Pac decides to stay together and Colorado will be the only member that leaves
b.) Pac disbands and Oregon+Washington end up in Big Ten. Arizona, ASU, and Utah end up in the Big 12

I just don't believe that Utah would be left to die, the Big 12 will offer them a lifeline. As far as the Big 12 is concerned, UConn is already dead.
 
A little conference history.

BYU and Utah were in the same conference from 1932 until 2011 (Skyline/WAC/MWC).

Utah, BYU, Arizona, and Arizona State were in the WAC together from 1962 to 1978.

Utah, BYU, and TCU were in the WAC together from 1996 to 1999.

Utah, BYU, and TCU were in the MWC together from 2005 to 2011.

So, there is a lot of conference history between BYU, Utah, Arizona, and Arizona St. and some conference history between Utah, BYU, and TCU.

And, here's how many games the 3 remaining corner schools have played against Big 12 or potential Big 12 schools:

Arizona: 96 Arizona St., 47 Utah, 33 Texas Tech, 25 Colorado, 25 BYU

Arizona St.: 96 Arizona, 33 Utah, 28 BYU, 13 Colorado

Utah: 96 BYU, 69 Colorado, 47 Arizona, 33 Arizona St.
 
CL82 said:
Only conference not talking?

SEC, SEC, SEC...
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Only conference involved in all this that isn't talking, but yes. The SEC is just sipping bourbon on the front porch.

Mostly it's a feeling that hit me today, but the logic looks like this. ESPN is out of the PAC deal next year. We reliably heard ESPN approved a full payout for UConn to the Big XII. ESPN is looking at what it can capture here and where it wants those properties. If Yormark has persuaded ESPN on UConn's value (and presumably he has given we were approved) then where does ESPN want them? Big XII is getting a basketball boost from UA and Houston. It's weak on the football side. It could use Utah. The ACC hasn't lived up to its basketball promise, and programs like Syracuse and Louisville are down. Is UConn more valuable playing North Carolina and Duke than Kansas and Baylor? Duke already has eyeball pull in NYC. So does Miami. Does playing UConn help revitalize Syracuse hoops? Can UConn and BC play a version of Florida-Georgia at Gillette every year?

The answers to those and other questions, plus the silence as the corner schools generate noise, suggests to me that ESPN would prefer to put UConn in the ACC.
 
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That Guy said:
At this point one of two things will happen:

a.) Pac decides to stay together and Colorado will be the only member that leaves
b.) Pac disbands and Oregon+Washington end up in Big Ten. Arizona, ASU, and Utah end up in the Big 12

I just don't believe that Utah would be left to die, the Big 12 will offer them a lifeline. As far as the Big 12 is concerned, UConn is already dead.
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Yormark disagrees.

So does Yormack. And Yomack!

And Yo! Mack!

And Yohoho Mack!
 
That Guy said:
At this point one of two things will happen:

a.) Pac decides to stay together and Colorado will be the only member that leaves
b.) Pac disbands and Oregon+Washington end up in Big Ten. Arizona, ASU, and Utah end up in the Big 12

I just don't believe that Utah would be left to die, the Big 12 will offer them a lifeline. As far as the Big 12 is concerned, UConn is already dead.
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Why would the Big 12 care about whether Utah dies or not?
 
superjohn said:
Why would the Big 12 care about whether Utah dies or not?
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Because they are a P5 school with a high level football program and a great HC. They would immediately become the team to beat if they joined. Adding Utah strengthens Big 12 football way more than adding UConn strengthens their basketball as it's already the best bball conference + they're adding Arizona. Sucks, but that's the way this stuff goes.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Only conference involved in all this that isn't talking, but yes. The SEC is just sipping bourbon on the front porch.

Mostly it's a feeling that hit me today, but the logic looks like this. ESPN is out of the PAC deal next year. We reliably heard ESPN approved a full payout for UConn to the Big XII. ESPN is looking at what it can capture here and where it wants those properties. If Yormark has persuaded ESPN on UConn's value (and presumably he has given we were approved) then where does ESPN want them? Big XII is getting a basketball boost from UA and Houston. It's weak on the football side. It could use Utah. The ACC hasn't lived up to its basketball promise, and programs like Syracuse and Louisville are down. Is UConn more valuable playing North Carolina and Duke than Kansas and Baylor? Duke already has eyeball pull in NYC. So does Miami. Does playing UConn help revitalize Syracuse hoops? Can UConn and BC play a version of Florida-Georgia at Gillette every year?

The answers to those and other questions, plus the silence as the corner schools generate noise, suggests to me that ESPN would prefer to put UConn in the ACC.
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SEC is just so much better than everyone else. SEC along with the Big East are the only conferences which make sense. Unfortunately basketball doesn't get paid nearly enough.
 
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That Guy said:
Because they are a P5 school with a high level football program and a great HC. They would immediately become the team to beat if they joined. Adding Utah strengthens Big 12 football way more than adding UConn strengthens their basketball as it's already the best bball conference + they're adding Arizona. Sucks, but that's the way this stuff goes.
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Okay, that didn't sound at all like the argument you were making in your post I responded to.
 
superjohn said:
Okay, that didn't sound at all like the argument you were making in your post I responded to.
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The whole point is that the Big 12 (outside of Brett Yormark) will think that Utah is worth saving, while UConn can continue to float in purgatory like they have been.
 
superjohn said:
SEC is just so much better than everyone else. SEC along with the Big East are the only conferences which make sense. Unfortunately basketball doesn't get paid nearly enough.
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ACC doesn't make sense for UConn?
 
superjohn said:
I didn't say they didn't. UConn always made way more sense for the ACC than every other team they invited over the years except for Miami and still here we are.
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But maybe not much longer. ;)
 
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superjohn said:
They really should, throw Nova in as well. They would win every single national championship in football and basketball.
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Nova football in the SEC would be like SUNY Oswego men's basketball in the Big East.

Also, Jay retired more than a year ago. I don't see Neptune competing for a title for a long time, maybe ever.
 
That Guy said:
At this point one of two things will happen:

a.) Pac decides to stay together and Colorado will be the only member that leaves
b.) Pac disbands and Oregon+Washington end up in Big Ten. Arizona, ASU, and Utah end up in the Big 12

I just don't believe that Utah would be left to die, the Big 12 will offer them a lifeline. As far as the Big 12 is concerned, UConn is already dead.
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Don't be that guy.
 
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