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ASU staying behind (along with rumors that Utah wants to stay with Cal, Stanford, UW and Oregon if possible) opens a spot in the 4 corners for that eastern hoops program.

Colorado, Arizona, UConn and Utah/SDSU would be just fine…. Of course then there is the whole first rule of conference realignment which dictates UConn can not benefit
 
ASU staying behind (along with rumors that Utah wants to stay with Cal, Stanford, UW and Oregon if possible) opens a spot in the 4 corners for that eastern hoops program.

Colorado, Arizona, UConn and Utah/SDSU would be just fine…. Of course then there is the whole first rule of conference realignment which dictates UConn can not benefit
This seems like a pretty good summary of where things stand. UW and Oregon hoping for a B1G call up. Cal and Stanford don't see Big 12 as a fit or a priority. ASU has AD issues and hurt feelings I guess. Arizona, Colorado and UConn do benefit the conference and SDSU has some upside. Have no idea what Utah wants.
 
yeah if it's not already done then it's not happening. It's either done behind closed doors and they're waiting to announce or we're just being moved around as a piece on the chessboard. I hope the media comments about it being a "done deal" aren't coming from our camp because if so, oof. We should know better.
What media comments said it was a done deal?

The AD Report said UConn and the Big 12 are talking. "The movement is gaining momentum but not guaranteed to happen. Both sides are still doing their homework."

And it was only 2 weeks ago that Russell Steinberg tweeted that Yormark was recently on campus but that it was "very exploratory" and does not mean anything is imminent.

Why do people think that something was going to happen NOW?
 
What media comments said it was a done deal?

The AD Report said UConn and the Big 12 are talking. "The movement is gaining momentum but not guaranteed to happen. Both sides are still doing their homework."

And it was only 2 weeks ago that Russell Steinberg tweeted that Yormark was recently on campus but that it was "very exploratory" and does not mean anything is imminent.

Why do people think that something was going to happen NOW?
The Twitter media. Aka Torres and Norlander.

And because usually when people find out talks are going on it's because it's a purposeful media leak. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum
 
The reason UConn is under discussion is New York and Boston. Both markets are undervalued because the college product is pathetically inferior. The Big 12 is interested in Danny Hurley and Jim Mora and UConn has both of them.
 
The Twitter media. Aka Torres and Norlander.

And because usually when people find out talks are going on it's because it's a purposeful media leak. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum
The initial leaks followed silence from anyone on the UConn side indicates they are in serious negotiations. In fact I’m sure they entered into a non disclosure agreement. If there is a deal to be had, there will be a lot of things to manage and orchestrate, including the membership conditions and rights, BE notification, exit timing and exit fee issues, etc. So, the longer the silence, the more likely something is in the works. Conversely, if there was no deal happening, UConn would be lowering expectations and throwing reassuring kisses at the BE through various mouthpieces.
 
The Twitter media. Aka Torres and Norlander.

And because usually when people find out talks are going on it's because it's a purposeful media leak. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum
Torres said that nothing was "set in stone". And that he wasn't saying that UConn, Gonzaga, or Arizona were 100%.

 
How many media leaks and speculation tweets were there before the USC UCLA announcement?
Both Flugqr and the WV “insider” broke that news in advance of an official announcement. Don’t know who else since I dd not really care and was not following it.
 
What media comments said it was a done deal?

The AD Report said UConn and the Big 12 are talking. "The movement is gaining momentum but not guaranteed to happen. Both sides are still doing their homework."

And it was only 2 weeks ago that Russell Steinberg tweeted that Yormark was recently on campus but that it was "very exploratory" and does not mean anything is imminent.

Why do people think that something was going to happen NOW?
The reason negotiations drag on is that the sides are far apart. If UConn and B12 expectations were closely aligned to begin with, negotiations would have little reason to linger.
 
Conversely, if there was no deal happening, UConn would be lowering expectations and throwing reassuring kisses at the BE through various mouthpieces.
This is a really great point. Has AD David Benedict even used the words “Big East” in the last month? Contrast with PAC-12 guys who continually fall over themselves to say “we love it, we love it, we love it, but…”
 
The reason negotiations drag on is that the sides are far apart. If UConn and B12 expectations were closely aligned to begin with, negotiations would have little reason to linger.
It might be that the Big 12 is waiting to get all the pieces in place before making a final announcement. UConn might be all set, but the other teams are still up in the air.
 
Both Flugqr and the WV “insider” broke that news in advance of an official announcement. Don’t know who else since I dd not really care and was not following it.
Was this week's in advance with conjecture and speculation or it came out very shortly before the official announcement saying it was a done deal?
 
Was this week's in advance with conjecture and speculation or it came out very shortly before the official announcement saying it was a done deal?
It was weeks in advance. Flugaur posted the story about USC calling the BIG 10 months in advance. The story about Flugaur and his scoop was in the LA Times.

 
I think my biggest concern with the move is the travel. Recall how disastrous our record in Texas was in the AAC even in the semi-decent years. Now add that our closest conference rival (WVU) would be even further than our closest conference rival in the AAC (Temple iirc)
I believe in football the reason we had bad records was the AD hired bad coaches in football. If the AD hired Nick Saban I think it would've been a better record, than Paul P, Bob Draco or Randy Edsel 2.0.

With a membership in the B12, we might have great coaches in the future, such as the replacement of Geno and maybe lacrosse.
 
The idea that the B12 has our answer and is just waiting on Arizona and Utah to make up their minds before making it official makes sense imo. It’d be a huge splash to announce 3 PAC schools and UConn at once, instead of just UConn and Colorado. Zona might need time to figure out the situation with ASU.
 
There's been a theory posited here many times that the ACC felt it could leave UConn out in the cold for as long as needed, then if they needed UConn for strategic purposes or to fill a hole from a defection, the door would open.

Odd that there's nothing out there regarding the ACC looking at UConn. Early in the year they looked at Washington, Oregon, WVU, and SMU, but we were nowhere in the conversation. And now, if there's anything to these B12 rumors, still not a peep regarding UConn from Philips and his cronies.

I find that odd.

Anyway, if there is something to the rumors, I'd have to think Yormark might be kicking himself for taking a directional out of desperation when he could have had us all along for the asking.
If the ACC doesn’t appreciate UConn, Ef ‘em.
 
Is smoke starting to clear…. Looks like expansion is going to pass UConn again?
Unfortunately, the knock on UConn is it will always be available until it isn’t.
very premature to say that. Everybody is just sitting around waiting to see what’s happening with Colorado/the PAC. There’s a lot of moving parts here. I know a lot of teams have to move in June to avoid a big exit fee, so there’s that time constraint too
 

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