Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Luna]

Wow.. i hope the big east doesn’t get screwed because of timing…I thought it would be good timing because of the aac deal (even after losing their best schools and still not losing money because of it)and the big 12 deal also seems like a good deal… the big east has done everything to warrant a substantial increase…unless fox gives us north of 8 million per school per year.. I think we should wait till next year when it’s open to the highest bidder.. and hopefully have another great season before negotiations

 

[Ha Who]

Low hanging fruit theory:

Schools will continue to increase their income by the most efficient way possible. For the time being that means additions of schools that encourage their media partners to pay them more. Eventually that will top out and they will look around at the Boston Colleges of the college sports world and realize it makes zero sense to keep them on as another mouth to feed when they don't contribute materially to adding revenue.

Even the globetrotters needed the generals

 

[CL82]

Even the globetrotters needed the generals

True, but I'm pretty sure they didn't split the money evenly with them.

 

[ScottVib]

Wow.. i hope the big east doesn’t get screwed because of timing…I thought it would be good timing because of the aac deal (even after losing their best schools and still not losing money because of it)and the big 12 deal also seems like a good deal… the big east has done everything to warrant a substantial increase…unless fox gives us north of 8 million per school per year.. I think we should wait till next year when it’s open to the highest bidder.. and hopefully have another great season before negotiations

The AAC didn't lose money because they offered up a 27% increase of inventory... even then that hasn't kept the per school average revenue per year even, as a result, they're paying their new additions 50% of what legacy schools earn. It'll be interesting to see what happens if SMU leaves.. if/when they are replaced you will have further diminished the value of that league AND the new teams will have the same number of votes as the legacy teams.

If the Big East is "screwed" it won't be because of timing. It'll be because the economics around basketball and basketball first leagues are what they are... and that for the most part the Big East schools have a comparative low name value individually. The brand value of the conference is greater than the value of the member schools individually, except UConn (and maybe Villanova). So unlike some leagues where you're buying Alabama or Ohio State football or Duke basketball; plus some other teams, you're buying the Big East with the thought that you can sell the game based on the Big East name; not because it features Creighton vs. Marquette or Xavier vs. Providence. With the ACC for basketball, each week you have the choice of several name brands to fill those time-slots and increase the number of attractive matchups possible and limit the number of matchups that have to be sold as "ACC game of the week." With the Big East you get two UConn - Villanova games and then you're hunting. The conference won't let you pick UConn vs. someone; every week, so how do you maximize the value of that deal. Furthermore, if UConn, clearly hunting (as they must) for an exit plan leaves then what do you have? Is there a reason to pay a premium for that if you already can air a secondary Big Ten, Big XII, ACC or SEC matchup? That's the question the networks are going to have to answer when they set a value for the Big East inventory.

The Big East will be the top-earning non FBS conference and probably earn more than the G5 conferences (which is why Independent/Big East is better than any G5 alignment; but worse than any P5 alignment); it might not be that $8-10M per team that many here expected/hoped they would hit.

 

[jostar1]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Such weak sauce if true.

 

[shizzle787]

Such weak sauce if true.

This is good for us.

 

[noeynox]

This is good for us.

If you read the article. UConn was considered a P5 for Big 10 scheduling purposes, so is it really good for us, how?

 

[huskymedic]

Well, its "key" for someone/somewhere. Decks continue to shuffle.

 

[noeynox]

Syracuse is done for!

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Slasher]

Those tweets are the dumbest thing ever. Every team not in the SEC or Big Ten has interest in either or both. Duh.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Those tweets are the dumbest thing ever. Every team not in the SEC or Big Ten has interest in either or both. Duh.

Agreed. Seems like he's been trying to build up his follower base, so simple red meat content appears to be why he posted those.

 

[jostar1]

 

[huskymedic]

Couple of throw away UConn mention:



-> Within the meeting rooms, each league’s strategy unfolded ahead of their proverbial territorial battle. Just paces from the Pac-12’s gathering, Big 12 leaders discussed a list of expansion targets, four of them residing in the Pac-12: Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State and Utah.

Other targets are from a variety of leagues: San Diego State and UNLV from the Mountain West; UConn, which is independent in football and in the Big East in basketball; and Memphis, from the American. There are others too, such as Colorado State, SMU and Fresno, but they seem further down the pecking order. <-

-> Though San Diego State seems bound for the Pac-12—it is their preference—Yormark has held conversations with the school’s leadership about being the Big 12’s only program in the Pacific Time zone. UConn, the reigning men’s basketball champions, is a play for a foothold in the northeast as well as adding another basketball powerhouse to what currently is the best hoops league in the country. And of Memphis, the Tigers finished as a finalist the last time the Big 12 expanded. <-

 

[Gburyhusky]

Throw away UConn mention:

This seems a bit more than a throw away mention, but I guess we will see; also seems to be the first legit media guy mentioning us in the context of realingment as opposed to the usual twitter crackpots. Again will have to wait and see. I have noted that our AD has seemed less active on social media recently, so one wonders if there is something more to all of this as it relates to us.

 

[Ha Who]

This seems a bit more than a throw away mention, but I guess we will see; also seems to be the first legit media guy mentioning us in the context of realingment as opposed to the usual twitter crackpots. Again will have to wait and see. I have noted that our AD has seemed less active on social media recently, so one wonders if there is something more to all of this as it relates to us.

As opposed to the desperation we see coming out of Tallahassee

 

[GoConn]

Couple of throw away UConn mention:



-> Within the meeting rooms, each league’s strategy unfolded ahead of their proverbial territorial battle. Just paces from the Pac-12’s gathering, Big 12 leaders discussed a list of expansion targets, four of them residing in the Pac-12: Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State and Utah.

Other targets are from a variety of leagues: San Diego State and UNLV from the Mountain West; UConn, which is independent in football and in the Big East in basketball; and Memphis, from the American. There are others too, such as Colorado State, SMU and Fresno, but they seem further down the pecking order. <-

-> Though San Diego State seems bound for the Pac-12—it is their preference—Yormark has held conversations with the school’s leadership about being the Big 12’s only program in the Pacific Time zone. UConn, the reigning men’s basketball champions, is a play for a foothold in the northeast as well as adding another basketball powerhouse to what currently is the best hoops league in the country. And of Memphis, the Tigers finished as a finalist the last time the Big 12 expanded. <-

The fact UConn gets mentioned two entirely separate times makes me feel like there is actual real smoke there

 

[Jbirdp5]

This seems a bit more than a throw away mention, but I guess we will see; also seems to be the first legit media guy mentioning us in the context of realingment as opposed to the usual twitter crackpots. Again will have to wait and see. I have noted that our AD has seemed less active on social media recently, so one wonders if there is something more to all of this as it relates to us.

I agree that league is clearly looking to move west, they aren’t going to take us and 3 western schools

 

[shizzle787]

I agree that league is clearly looking to move west, they aren’t going to take us and 3 western schools

If the Pac-12 stays together and adds SDSU and SMU, there is a legitimate chance the Big 12 will add us.

 

[Exit 4]

If the Pac-12 stays together and adds SDSU and SMU, there is a legitimate chance the Big 12 will add us.

Tangent comment: its no secret Vegas continues to grow and proving it can keep growing despite the inevitable booms and busts to travel. Long term, UNLV is sitting on a very good opportunity. If the school gets it act together academically, it really could become quite attractive.

The NHL, the NFL and now the MLB landing (Oakland is on their way) in Vegas is doing a lot to make it a serious town and I think reshape the city as more than an endless weekend. Regardless if you agree with that take, the city once eschewed by the pro and college sports world as toxic and dangerous is quickly becoming an obvious must have with any sports travel calendar.

UNLV sort of fits nicely into the B12 niche as the aggressive wildman of P5 sports. The school needs to get serious.

 

[Kolumbo]

Couple of throw away UConn mention:



-> Within the meeting rooms, each league’s strategy unfolded ahead of their proverbial territorial battle. Just paces from the Pac-12’s gathering, Big 12 leaders discussed a list of expansion targets, four of them residing in the Pac-12: Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State and Utah.

Other targets are from a variety of leagues: San Diego State and UNLV from the Mountain West; UConn, which is independent in football and in the Big East in basketball; and Memphis, from the American. There are others too, such as Colorado State, SMU and Fresno, but they seem further down the pecking order. <-

-> Though San Diego State seems bound for the Pac-12—it is their preference—Yormark has held conversations with the school’s leadership about being the Big 12’s only program in the Pacific Time zone. UConn, the reigning men’s basketball champions, is a play for a foothold in the northeast as well as adding another basketball powerhouse to what currently is the best hoops league in the country. And of Memphis, the Tigers finished as a finalist the last time the Big 12 expanded. <-

And the ACC schools now have a name:

"The ACC’s options are quite limited, both for the group of seven and the league as a whole." Once a name is coined, it's over.

The GO7 could look to add the Kansases, Okie State, and perhaps the Corner 4.

"3. Create another league. If the seven agree to dissolve the current grant-of-rights agreement (we don’t know yet if this is a possibility), they may add a couple of more schools and begin their own association in hopes of it being more lucrative. This comes with its own issues, of course. You’d need a broadcast partner or private equity to fund such an endeavor. And, as one official asks, “Will it really be that much more lucrative?”"

 

[Kolumbo]

Frank just took the "throw-away" line and ran with it.