Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[huskymedic]

 

[Kolumbo]

Who wanna get paid?

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[ibleedhuskyblue]

I remember when this thread was new. I cant believe ive spent so much of my life and (limited) brain power on the yard.

Also, conference realignment sucks, Just like it did the first 3 times we were screwed by it.

 

[billybud]

Here is a thought...

Why, with an expanded playoff, would not the Big Ten and SEC push for a playoff payout like the one in basketball. If those two conferences load up the playoff roster, than they can gain most of the money.

Conferences would get paid per game in the playoff....I can see Sankey picking up the phone and calling Warren..."Kevin, I have an idea that I think you should listen to..."

 

[Slasher]

Here is a thought...

Why, with an expanded playoff, would not the Big Ten and SEC push for a playoff payout like the one in basketball. If those two conferences load up the playoff roster, than they can gain most of the money.

Conferences would get paid per game in the playoff....I can see Sankey picking up the phone and calling Warren..."Kevin, I have an idea that I think you should listen to..."

They're already discussing this.

 

[Rufus]

50% of all playoff revenue will likely go to the SEC and B1G. The other 50% will be split by everyone else with the PAC, ACC and Big 12 receiving more than the G5.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

50% of all playoff revenue will likely go to the SEC and B1G. The other 50% will be split by everyone else with the PAC, ACC and Big 12 receiving more than the G5.

Is that based on any reports?

 

[Rufus]

Is that based on any reports?

How College Football Playoff expansion will affect realignment, job security and the future of the sport

Revenue distribution​

This is the next-biggest task for conference commissioners and university presidents to tackle, several sources told CBS Sports. It must be determined what fair compensation looks like for the conferences, a task last undertaken when CFP started in 2014.

Basically, whatever kind of weight the SEC and Big Ten throw around the room will be a huge factor. In expansion, those conferences are trading money for access. They'll get their money, but the remaining eight conferences get a better shot at the playoff. That will be a first.

That access -- tripling the field -- keeps the feds away from collusion or antitrust accusations from the smaller conferences. Those lesser leagues now have more access than ever. That in itself smothers any talk of a monopoly.

"The playoff is the key," Aresco said. "If you have access to that, I think you'll stay relevant. Your donors will care. Your fans will care. The schools will make the investment because they have a chance to compete. … That's going to be the key to everything."

In 2021, the Power Five conferences each got $74 million annually from the CFP for, well, being Power Five conferences. The Group of Five split $95 million, about 20% of the total annual net distribution. Back when the CFP was formed, that percentage was basically agreed upon as a number that would keep the Group of Five from suing. With access going from four to 12, that reinforces the unlikely prospect of any legal action.

Going forward, here's one educated guess on the future distribution assuming a doubling of the annual revenue brought in by the CFP from $600 million (four teams) to $1.2 billion per year (12):

• SEC and Big Ten combine to get half the total, $600 million ($300 million each). That's an additional $16.7 million per year for each of those leagues' schools.
• ACC, Big 12 and Pac-12 (depending on membership) split 30% of the pot, $360 million ($120 million each). That's approximately $10 million more per year for those schools. Another consideration: Perhaps the ACC, given the strength of some of its programs, sits on a tier of its own earning a sum between the Power Two and the Big 12 and Pac-12.
• Group of Five conferences split the remaining 20% of the pot, $240 million ($48 million each). That's an additional $3.9 million per year for each school in the AAC, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt.

These projections do not include deductions for revenue distribution to FBS independents, FCS and NCAA Divisions II and III.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

How College Football Playoff expansion will affect realignment, job security and the future of the sport

Revenue distribution​

This is the next-biggest task for conference commissioners and university presidents to tackle, several sources told CBS Sports. It must be determined what fair compensation looks like for the conferences, a task last undertaken when CFP started in 2014.

Basically, whatever kind of weight the SEC and Big Ten throw around the room will be a huge factor. In expansion, those conferences are trading money for access. They'll get their money, but the remaining eight conferences get a better shot at the playoff. That will be a first.

That access -- tripling the field -- keeps the feds away from collusion or antitrust accusations from the smaller conferences. Those lesser leagues now have more access than ever. That in itself smothers any talk of a monopoly.

"The playoff is the key," Aresco said. "If you have access to that, I think you'll stay relevant. Your donors will care. Your fans will care. The schools will make the investment because they have a chance to compete. … That's going to be the key to everything."

In 2021, the Power Five conferences each got $74 million annually from the CFP for, well, being Power Five conferences. The Group of Five split $95 million, about 20% of the total annual net distribution. Back when the CFP was formed, that percentage was basically agreed upon as a number that would keep the Group of Five from suing. With access going from four to 12, that reinforces the unlikely prospect of any legal action.

Going forward, here's one educated guess on the future distribution assuming a doubling of the annual revenue brought in by the CFP from $600 million (four teams) to $1.2 billion per year (12):

• SEC and Big Ten combine to get half the total, $600 million ($300 million each). That's an additional $16.7 million per year for each of those leagues' schools.
• ACC, Big 12 and Pac-12 (depending on membership) split 30% of the pot, $360 million ($120 million each). That's approximately $10 million more per year for those schools. Another consideration: Perhaps the ACC, given the strength of some of its programs, sits on a tier of its own earning a sum between the Power Two and the Big 12 and Pac-12.
• Group of Five conferences split the remaining 20% of the pot, $240 million ($48 million each). That's an additional $3.9 million per year for each school in the AAC, Conference USA, MAC, Mountain West and Sun Belt.

These projections do not include deductions for revenue distribution to FBS independents, FCS and NCAA Divisions II and III.

Thanks for sharing - interested to see if this unequal revenue sharing will continue under the expanded playoff. It seems like they should consider sharing revenues more similarly to the March Madness revenue sharing as that has certainly helped grow the game of basketball at the collegiate level.

 

[Slasher]

I think it's much more likely they'll do a merit based system. P5 gets the same amount (say 100M each = 500M). G5 gets 50M each = 250M. That's 750M of the 1.2B. The rest is based on # of games appeared in like the NCAA tournament. 12 team playoff = 11 games and 450M left to distribute. So that's 41M or so per game, and 20.5M per team. So that's how the SEC and B1G can gain more money -- get more teams in.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[shizzle787]

Aka expansion that makes money. Aka no expansion as there are no schools that increase the bottom line.

 

[CL82]

Aka expansion that makes money. Aka no expansion as there are no schools that increase the bottom line.

It’s always been that way. You need to have a sugar daddy thing for the raids. In the case of the Big East that was ESPN. Since ESPN was footing the bill, they could’ve told the ACC make sure you include the University of Connecticut. They didn’t and that cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars

 

[huskymedic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[ScottVib]

That last clip is interesting. The pro rata clause is only for current P5 and only on the ESPN portion of the deal. So the thought that the Big XII might race to cut off the PAC-12 for San Diego State to try to shake loose the 4 corners goes out the window.

It also makes the math interesting. What if FOX just says no to increasing the deal (to the same dollar amount) if say an Arizona is added? That means everyone gets a haircut and makes expansion for the Big XII and the prospective PAC-12 mover less desirable

 

[Storrs South]

 

[Slasher]

Did not expect that... admittedly Gonzaga is probably a much better fit in the Big 12 than the Big East due to geography.

 

[Storrs South]

 

[Storrs South]

 

[ScottVib]

The thing is Gonzaga and San Diego State don't trigger the pro-rata language in the ESPN portion of the contract.. it'd be interesting to see just what the basketball only value of Gonzaga is.

 

[Kolumbo]

Didn't see that coming but it would make sense with BYU. Seems like it would be a nice pairing with football only addition.

 

[metsfan2323]

Didn't see that coming but it would make sense with BYU. Seems like it would be a nice pairing with football only addition.

Glad to hear this, now we can permanently put to bed the ridiculous idea of them joining the BE. It makes perfect sense that they might eventually get a basketball offer from a west coast power conference. A weakened PAC12 would probably also offer them. The Big East was Hybrid for years and thrived until ESPN destroyed it.