Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[whaler11]

We know the uConn women's package was worth $2m alone a few years ago. So the question then is how much does a regional channel pay for men's bball, one football game, coaches' shows, men's hockey?

Hockey is sold with the HE rights, can't sell it again.

Coaches' shows also already sold through the IMG deal.

It's an FCS football game a couple of men's games and some garbage women's games.

It's maybe 3-4 million. Who cares if they are in the league - the subsidy will be lower than it is today.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Hockey is sold with the HE rights, can't sell it again.

HE does not own the rights to all home games. If there were some, specifically OOC games, that a B12 network wanted (unlikely since B12 country is anything but hockey country) UConn could sell a few of those.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[UCFBfan]

Copying from Mattsarz blog

Big 12 - The conference allows schools to set aside one home football game and a handful of OOC men's basketball games to monetize as they see fit after national rightsholders ABC (football), ESPN (men's basketball, including Big 12 Network syndication) and FOX cable (football) take their cuts . In the case of University of Texas, this is the Longhorn Network. Kansas has their Jayhawk Network syndication, Iowa St. does their Cyclone TV Network, etc. The games are supposed to be televised regionally but I do not believe there are location limitations when it comes to online streaming.

Is the syndication considered Tier 3? Wouldn't the Husky Network have to be shown on a channel like SNY? If so, would SNY have to pay UConn for the rights to show the syndicated games? I honestly don't know how any of that works so I was curious.

 

[uchusky32]

All you post are articles about some other school. You must feel so powerful when you hit that post reply button.

 

[whaler11]

Is the syndication considered Tier 3? Wouldn't the Husky Network have to be shown on a channel like SNY? If so, would SNY have to pay UConn for the rights to show the syndicated games? I honestly don't know how any of that works so I was curious.

No the syndicated package is the league.

That's like the old Big East Game of The Week that was Saturdays at noon. Based on that blog post it's like the BE in that it was an ESPN production. Pretty sure YES is in the B12 syndication network.

All UConn would have to sell is the actual Tier 3 games. This year would be something like: Maine FB - Wagner, Northeastern, BC, North Florida for MBB - probably 10-12 women's games and I guess a handful of home OOC hockey games.

 

[UCFBfan]

No the syndicated package is the league.

That's like the old Big East Game of The Week that was Saturdays at noon.

All UConn would have to sell is the actual Tier 3 games. This year would be something like: Maine FB - Wagner, Northeastern, BC, North Florida for MBB - probably 10-12 women's games and I guess a handful of home OOC hockey games.

Ok got it. I remember the Big East game thing but it was usually on SNY. I didn't know who got the money that SNY probably had to pay to have that game on their channel. Kind of like how NESN has some ACC games on it. That money goes straight to the conference then?

 

[Ha Who]

Fishy please phone home

 

[whaler11]

Ok got it. I remember the Big East game thing but it was usually on SNY. I didn't know who got the money that SNY probably had to pay to have that game on their channel. Kind of like how NESN has some ACC games on it. That money goes straight to the conference then?

Yes. SNY was in the network. MASN (Baltimore/Washington version of SNY/YES) was in the network. There are all sorts of random stations around the country in those networks, some cable and some over the air.

The ACC syndication network we get in Hartford on WCCT. In a place like Raleigh the ACC syndicated games are on the NBC affiliate WRAL.

I have no idea how much stations pay to be part of those syndicated networks - I'm curious but I assume that it's sold at a bunch of different prices to bulk and single buyers.

 

[uchusky32]

Yes. SNY was in the network. MASN (Baltimore/Washington version of SNY/YES) was in the network. There are all sorts of random stations around the country in those networks, some cable and some over the air.

The ACC syndication network we get in Hartford on WCCT. In a place like Raleigh the ACC syndicated games are on the NBC affiliate WRAL.

I have no idea how much stations pay to be part of those syndicated networks - I'm curious but I assume that it's sold at a bunch of different prices to bulk and single buyers.

Yup, WRAL is CBS.

 

[whaler11]

Fishy please phone home

Ironically he's said he's back in the country on Twitter.

At this point there is no such thing as a key tweet as no one had the one piece of information that changed everything. The ACCN.

 

[whaler11]

Yup, WRAL is CBS.

They switched to NBC in January.

 

[CL82]

Hockey is sold with the HE rights, can't sell it again.

Coaches' shows also already sold through the IMG deal.

It's an FCS football game a couple of men's games and some garbage women's games.

It's maybe 3-4 million. Who cares if they are in the league - the subsidy will be lower than it is today.

But aren't Tier 1 only the games that are actually televised? Can you have an untelevised Tier 1 game?

 

[whaler11]

But aren't Tier 1 only the games that are actually televised? Can you have an untelevised Tier 1 game?

The leagues define them differently but generally they define a number of games each partner gets and what the selection process is.

Tier 1 games are the priority selections that end up on national networks. So no by definition you won't have tier 1 games not on TV.

 

[jostar1]

 

[jostar1]

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[CL82]

The leagues define them differently but generally they define a number of games each partner gets and what the selection process is.

Tier 1 games are the priority selections that end up on national networks. So no by definition you won't have tier 1 games not on TV.

Right. So you are saying that all but one of football games would be televised as part of the Big 12 TV deal? If so that would reduce the T3 inventory but would be good for exposure.

 

[CL82]

 

[huskymedic]

December 2015... we have the Soul of the City publication somewhere on here?

 

[whaler11]

Right. So you are saying that all but one of football games would be televised as part of the Big 12 TV deal? If so that would reduce the T3 inventory but would be good for exposure.

It's probably worse for exposure. The AAC has a better deal for exposure.

It might get a bit sticky in NYC too with YES being Fox and UConn trying to sell the tier 3 to SNY.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

We don't know that UConn isn't lobbying. We only know they're not dumb like Memphis and leaving obvious paper trails all over the place.

 

[OkaForPrez]

The math is pretty easy. They can steal more from 4 than 2. It's just short sighted enough to be perfect for the Big 12.

Fairly certain it's obviously short sighted because OU and UT know with the acc contract the big 12 is officially the dead conference walking. They are going to cash in for the remaining contract and be on their way.

 

[SubbaBub]

It's probably worse for exposure. The AAC has a better deal for exposure.

It might get a bit sticky in NYC too with YES being Fox and UConn trying to sell the tier 3 to SNY.

YES it is then. If there is no B12N, I'm sure every team not named Texas would love some exposure on YES. YES has a wider reach than SNY. The Yankees wouldn't mind having the UConn content either, though they would bump some games for their NBA slate. You would risk some BB games not being on TV.

 

[whaler11]

YES it is then. If there is no B12N, I'm sure every team not named Texas would love some exposure on YES. YES has a wider reach than SNY. The Yankees wouldn't mind having the UConn content either, though they would bump some games for their NBA slate. You would risk some BB games not being on TV.

The Big 12 is already on YES.... UConn's t3 would be an addition but they already show a lot of the t2 regional games.

 

[SubbaBub]

The Big 12 is already on YES.... UConn's t3 would be an addition but they already show a lot of the t2 regional games.

More people would actually watch them. YES is national on satellite, but those games are bought for filler and not watched by B12 fans on YES. They use the lower division games for this purpose also, quite often.