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Towney007 said:
So just because i'm lazy and don't have time - how were we finishing around the rim the last two seasons? Seems like one of those under-the-hood/maybe-not-so-under-the-hood issues this team has had offensively this past year.

And to the best of our ability to read it - how are Ferguson/Springs/Cole/Jackson in those departments?

Because I honestly feel like we're basically one or two finisher/dribble drive guys away from being a real problem for everyone.
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Middle of the pack last year on 2P%, one of the worst in the country the last year under Ollie, one of the worst in the country second to last year under Ollie, middle of the pack the last year they made the tourney.

So to recap starting in 2015-16: Fine, Bad, Bad, Fine, Bad. The last time UConn was top 100 in this category was 2012-2013 (the ban year) so they did win a National Championship #196 in this stat.

With regards to finishing at the rim, anyone that played significant minutes last year was bad at the rim. Carlton was efficient his freshman year at the rim, and was semi efficient last year but not amazing especially when you consider how often he has the height advantage. He has dropped 10 percentage points at the rim this year and that's after playing a couple cupcakes and some high majors that are undersized.
 
Towney007 said:
So just because i'm lazy and don't have time - how were we finishing around the rim the last two seasons? Seems like one of those under-the-hood/maybe-not-so-under-the-hood issues this team has had offensively this past year.

And to the best of our ability to read it - how are Ferguson/Springs/Cole/Jackson in those departments?

Because I honestly feel like we're basically one or two finisher/dribble drive guys away from being a real problem for everyone.
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FG%s at the rim for 2020: Hoop-Math -- UConn basketball play-by-play statistics

2019: Hoop-Math -- UConn basketball play-by-play statistics
 
Nebraskan18 said:
How are we not receiving a single vote in the AP poll
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Because the AP voters do not actually watch games. They, at best, read box scores and see highlights. Case in point, Stephen F. Austin received 7 votes solely for beating Duke. Those AP voters ignored, or don't know, that right before beating Duke, SFA lost to Rutgers. Yes, Rutgers.
 
Nebraskan18 said:
How are we not receiving a single vote in the AP poll
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5-2 with one of those losses to St. Joes. We may sneak in there before the end of the year. To be honest, I'm not sure how good we are. There is huge potential but we still do not have consistency.
 
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Storrs South said:
Middle of the pack last year on 2P%, one of the worst in the country the last year under Ollie, one of the worst in the country second to last year under Ollie, middle of the pack the last year they made the tourney.

So to recap starting in 2015-16: Fine, Bad, Bad, Fine, Bad. The last time UConn was top 100 in this category was 2012-2013 (the ban year) so they did win a National Championship #196 in this stat.

With regards to finishing at the rim, anyone that played significant minutes last year was bad at the rim. Carlton was efficient his freshman year at the rim, and was semi efficient last year but not amazing especially when you consider how often he has the height advantage. He has dropped 10 percentage points at the rim this year and that's after playing a couple cupcakes and some high majors that are undersized.
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Yeah I was just talking about this in another thread - I thought Carlton's game yesterday was everything he can't be this year. Maybe it's a confidence thing, but they've just gotta have some dude sitting near him consistently telling him he's almost seven feet tall. He's just so timid and hesitant around the rim and he's way bigger and stronger than 85% of the guys he'll see this year, maybe more.

And he's really the key in a way - as he's the guy who of that lot - stands the best shot to really help in finishing at the rim. Whaley is gonna do what he does, but Carlton is the guy who's gotta be better.
 
Nebraskan18 said:
How are we not receiving a single vote in the AP poll
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Simple, the St Joes loss is dragging us down. If we want to be ranked, we need to not lose to the Iona and beat Indiana. I would be very surprised if we are not ranked if we are 7-2 on 12/16.
 
Storrs South said:
Currently projects UConn at 20-11 (11-7), which seems in line with everyone's preseason expectations
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I project them to better than that. The St. Joe's loss must be weighing that projection down and I'm considering that game a complete toss-out.
 
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Tells me BA and Bouk need to take more shots.

Also, we beat St Joe's with Bouk playing. Casual voters may not recognize this, but the Selection Committee takes star players' absences into account when making the bracket. And in the end, that's all that matters.
 
GoDAWGS said:
its December and conference play hasnt started so how does this make sense.
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The American isn’t respected so it’s members are discriminated against. Until we are back in the Big East we will be considered low class. If we were in the ACC and had the exact same schedule and record we have now we’d surely be getting quite a few votes.
 
Hoophound said:
The American isn’t respected so it’s members are discriminated against. Until we are back in the Big East we will be considered low class. If we were in the ACC and had the exact same schedule and record we have now we’d surely be getting quite a few votes.
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Yet we havent started American play. Theres no bias yet because we havent played any teams in the "weaker conference". I get what youre saying once were in AAC play there would be bias because theyd consider us all weaker teams, but were in non conference play, our affiliation means nothing.
 
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Storrs South said:
Middle of the pack last year on 2P%, one of the worst in the country the last year under Ollie, one of the worst in the country second to last year under Ollie, middle of the pack the last year they made the tourney.

So to recap starting in 2015-16: Fine, Bad, Bad, Fine, Bad. The last time UConn was top 100 in this category was 2012-2013 (the ban year) so they did win a National Championship #196 in this stat.

With regards to finishing at the rim, anyone that played significant minutes last year was bad at the rim. Carlton was efficient his freshman year at the rim, and was semi efficient last year but not amazing especially when you consider how often he has the height advantage. He has dropped 10 percentage points at the rim this year and that's after playing a couple cupcakes and some high majors that are undersized.
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On a similar but different note, we're also drawing more fouls this year. Drawing the most fouls we've drawn since 2010.
 
auror said:
On a similar but different note, we're also drawing more fouls this year. Drawing the most fouls we've drawn since 2010.
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Good teams get to the line more. This is great to hear.
 
At the end of the day, our team is passive . Hurley continues to let us know that when he says we need one or two more dogs that bring the intensity and anger to the court. I love this team but JC, TP, IW, and even AG at times just straight up don’t play with emotion, anger or the belief that they will dominate. It clearly reflects how we attack the rim and grab (try to) rebounds.

We look scared when we attack the rim. (not counting you B.Adams!)
 
GoDAWGS said:
Yet we havent started American play. Theres no bias yet because we havent played any teams in the "weaker conference". I get what youre saying once were in AAC play there would be bias because theyd consider us all weaker teams, but were in non conference play, our affiliation means nothing.
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You don’t seem to appreciate the degree of irrelevance the American has provided us. We don’t exist right now.
 
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GoDAWGS said:
Yet we havent started American play. Theres no bias yet
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There has been a bias for 6.5 seasons now. You think they just took a break from it for the holiday season this year?
 
Storrs South said:
For those who do not have KenPom, this site has some interesting analytics:

T-Page for Connecticut - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank

  • Has UConn at 36% of making the tourney currently
  • Notes Bouknight, Adams, Polley, Vital, and Carlton have been the best 5 players to date
  • The team is elite at shot blocking, but also gets blocked on their own shots just as much which is no surprise since...
  • The team is being held back by an awful 2P%; the only players that rate positive in terms of finishing at the rim are Brendan Adams and James Bouknight
  • All of the guards are shooting exceptionally well from the charity stripe, Alterique being the lowest at 75% which is very good.
  • Notes that Alterique and Christian have very positive ratings with assists
  • The defense seems to be carrying the team at the moment as there are few deficiencies on that side of the ball currently
  • Currently projects UConn at 20-11 (11-7), which seems in line with everyone's preseason expectations
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That's pretty dead on. Our dribble drive game sucks. CV and AG the prime offenders early on. Many blocks/misses but the both pass the ball, don't turn it over and get steals. Both Xaiver and Florida performances were defensively influenced.

JC and Akok are above average rim protectors. The 37% assumes not being near the top of the AAC and or lack of quality opponents.
 
For every spot we potentially climb, there’s always st joe’s to bring us right back down
 
The past is gone. the St. Joe's loss will weigh us down less as the season moves on.

Indiana would have a positive effect. They are 7-0 and in the top 40.
 
Beat Indiana and we start getting Top 25 buzz.

Very winnable game, especially at MSG.
 
MervthePurvis said:
Vital is 3rd in the country at the line and in the upper tier of attempts. He’s also 4/5 in steals per game. Aside from some questionable shot selection he’s off to an elite start
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"Elite"? He has played within himself the last several games, which is a welcome change. That means he scores less and has less of an overall impact on the team (positive and negative). He's closer to the role a senior guard with limited talent should have. I've said it for a couple of years, if CV fills the stat sheet, we lose. He's been good, not close to elite.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
"Elite"? He has played within himself the last several games, which is a welcome change. That means he scores less and has less of an overall impact on the team (positive and negative). He's closer to the role a senior guard with limited talent should have. I've said it for a couple of years, if CV fills the stat sheet, we lose. He's been good, not close to elite.
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We would lose because CV didn’t have anywhere near as much talent around him, not because of his own selfishness or whatever the armchair shrinks of the BY tell themselves.
 
Caronimo said:
For every spot we potentially climb, there’s always st joe’s to bring us right back down
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Honestly, that game is looking more and more like a blessing is disguise. What if we came back and pulled it out as is? AG and CV would still be chucking up bricks left and right thinking that's leadership. Now Hurley can say with authority to those guys, when you shoot too much we lose. I think that game made it easier for other's to get the ball. They reverted to form in the Xavier game and we lost again. I think they got the message going forward.
 
Stainmaster said:
We would lose because CV didn’t have anywhere near as much talent around him, not because of his own selfishness or whatever the armchair shrinks of the BY tell themselves.
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It's two sides of the same coin. He isn't good enough to be our best player. So if he's out there as a volume shooter playing 30 minutes, it means we aren't a very good team. I don't know how anybody who watched him freshman and sophomore year can think he was making good decisions, regardless of the talent around him. He's much more suited to a support role rather than a leading one. I think he has come to accept and embrace that.

I don't blame him. Freshman year he was put in a position where he and Jalen were sometimes the only scholarship guards in the lineup. So he couldn't be subbed out no matter what he did. It continued sophomore year where we only went three deep. So he jacked up shots like crazy and gambled way too much on defense.
 
GoDAWGS said:
Yet we havent started American play. Theres no bias yet because we havent played any teams in the "weaker conference". I get what youre saying once were in AAC play there would be bias because theyd consider us all weaker teams, but were in non conference play, our affiliation means nothing.
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Both wrong.

Last year's bad play and bad conference will weigh this team down in metrics, until some point in late December/ Early January, if history holds.
 
Palatine said:
The past is gone. the St. Joe's loss will weigh us down less as the season moves on.

Indiana would have a positive effect. They are 7-0 and in the top 40.
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Big game for the tonight against FSU, who beat Florida. I guess we root for Indiana to remain undefeated and possibly cracking the top 25 for a match up against the good guys
 
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