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please show me where Ken Pom stated that - because he did not.. that is what you wanted the article to say so that's what you came away with

Ok, state should be changed to imply. His point should be that an unlucky backloaded schedule and JB's typical OOC scheduling has led to this anomaly where they have played no tough road games yet

Edit. I'm sure it works out though, because with a more regular schedule you guys don't get to rock those #1 shirts.
 

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you guys probably aren't smart enough to understand this - but the season isn't over yet - they still have to go to Duke, UVA, Maryland, Florida State and Pittsburgh tonight..

admittedly, they don't play juggernauts like Houston, UCF, and Rutgers on the road anymore, but somehow they are still managing to survive..
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you guys probably aren't smart enough to understand this - but the season isn't over yet - they still have to go to Duke, UVA, Maryland, Florida State and Pittsburgh tonight..

admittedly, they don't play juggernauts like Houston, UCF, and Rutgers on the road anymore, but somehow they are still managing to survive..

I understand that the season isn't over yet.

I acknowledge that Syracuse still has to travel and play conference games at Duke, UVA, Maryland, and Florida State.

And I assume your copy editor may have downsized like so many other in this altered journalistic landscape (heck, I'll probably make a human mistake or two), such that you probably intended to accurately convey that the Orange play at Pitt tonight.

And yes, road games in major conferences are often difficult and can yield surprises (see Houston 12/31/13)

Smart enough for you?

Now, to KenPom's initial point that Syracuse historically schedules almost no true away games against ranked out-of-conference opponents, I think it'd be difficult to dispute this. To his next point that the in-conference schedule this year was front-loaded with lesser team, I think again that it'd be difficult to dispute this. That this year thus far is the most extreme example of a Syracuse scheduling tendency that's been noted by others over the years, again it'd be tough to dispute.

How'm I doin?

KenPom's further point that Wichita State's victory at St. Louis represented a greater accomplishment than Syracuse beating Duke at home made for an interesting argument. The idea that even the number one ranked team might be expected to lose one or more of its upcoming games and still be deserving of a number one ranking didn't make the article any less worthwhile to read than if I'd been looking to launch an anti-Orange diatribe.

I think that Syracuse schedules quite well for its fan base and provides a terrific entertainment product for both locals and the fan base that scatters from Onondaga County after graduation. And I think that history has shown that the Syracuse model has had perhaps less success in the post season than its boosters might regularly wish for.

A lot of UConn fans are smart enough to recognize the validity of much of what I've written, and I've already fed myself breakfast. Not sure why you'd spend your morning insulting another team's fans on their message board, but we are often polite enough to thank visitors for their interest in Connecticut basketball, and with that wish I bid you a fine day.
 
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Syracuse away OOC games vs ranked teams (since 2001).

2008: at #23 Memphis

WOW! JB is downright aggressive, even violent, when it comes to getting that booger out of his nose on national TV. However, he just doesn't apply that same hostility towards his yearly schedule.
 
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I would be surprised if cuse lasts long in the Tourney this year as this can surely haunt them and backfire. Its a new day.

Who gets further in the tourney: Cuse or Wichita State?
 

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Funny how one troll comes to the thread and people feel the need to respond to him vs. commenting about Pomeroy. Needless to say experts are aware of Cuse's favorable schedule and it could bite them if they don't end strong.

Lot's of season remaining. Cuse and Dook are irrelevant for me unless UConn faces them. Most important thing is to take care of business and see how things play out.
 

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Funny how one troll comes to the thread and people feel the need to respond to him vs. commenting about Pomeroy. Needless to say experts are aware of Cuse's favorable schedule and it could bite them if they don't end strong.

Lot's of season remaining. Cuse and Dook are irrelevant for me unless UConn faces them. Most important thing is to take care of business and see how things play out.

Bingo.

As far as I'm concerned, now that they're out of our conference, Cuse is a footnote in history. They had a nice year with a nice player once.
 
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like I said - every road game in a major conference is tough - even Rutgers and their cute little high school gymnasium was a tough place to play on occasion..
Yeah but at least its a BB gym only and don't have to play in our FB stadium like you guys do? "Cute little 8G HS gym" or "antiquated Dome in the hinterlands snow capitol"? What a mess!!
 
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No one is taking into account JB's rationale for his easy scheduling practices. He's actually doing a big favor for local businesses as all the t-shirts do wonders for the upstate NY screen printing industry.
 

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No one is taking into account JB's rationale for his easy scheduling practices. He's actually doing a big favor for local businesses as all the t-shirts do wonders for the upstate NY screen printing industry.

It is an often over-looked fact but the #2 economic driver in Syracuse is the merchandising of pseudo-accomplishments. #1 relates to legal fees surrounding Helms University sports programs.
 
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Baylor, Indiana, Minnesota, Cal, Villanova, St. John's were all OOC - btw - they were 6-0 in those games.

So, not a single game against a ranked OOC team? The AAC has 5 teams in the top 25, by the way.
 

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If you think Duke is over-rated then you know nothing about basketball - right now they are playing as good as anybody in the country - they have the best player in the country and arguably the best coach



The correct English is "they are playing as well as anybody" not "as good as anybody". Thanks Syracuse for the education.
 
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I have always like the Sagarin ratings because they are just based on what you have done as a team. I was mystified to see that Syracuse never reached the top spot in their rankings despite being the unanimous choice by AP. Now I think I understand. Not only do they not schedule tough road games but their strength of schedule is ranked 59th. Of the top 12 teams according to the Sagarins, only Florida has a weaker schedule.
 
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For contrast, can you put up UConn's list of away OOC?

Not going to promise that this list is perfect, but just glancing back at schedules:

2010-11 @ #12 Texas
2008-2009 @ #7 Gonzaga
2007-2008 @ #8 Indiana
2006-2007 @ #19 LSU
2005-2006 @ #21 Indiana
2004-2005 @ #25 OU
2003-2004 @ #9 UNC
2002-2003 @ #9 OU
2001-2002 @ #10 Arizona
 

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False, we have the best player in the county.

I'm still lost on his comment on coach K.

With JC now retired how is it an argument that K isn't the best coach in the country. Who else comes close? I'm not a big fan of K but give the man his due.
 
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