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Kemba Walker Third Team All-NBA

UofCT2009 said:
Just a few thoughts. Is there a more overrated player in the league than Paul George? I don't think there is a GM or a coach in the world that thinks Paul George is better than KD. The Thunder didn't really improve all that much with PG. 47 wins in 2017 (Westbrooks MVP year), 48 wins in 2018 (PG & Melo) and 49 wins in 2019 (PG and no Melo)
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Trending up.
 
Charlotte gets screwed either way they go singing him to super max or letting him walk for nothing. Should’ve traded him
 
UofCT2009 said:
Huge news for Kemba and Charlotte. I can't see Kemba passing up the supermax, especially after his team friendly contract he had signed a few years ago. If I were Kemba, I would sign the supermax and figure out how to get traded afterwards.
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How does this super max thing work?
 
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temery said:
How does this super max thing work?
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A supermax deal (35% of the current cap) can only be offered to a player that has (or will have) completed eight years of NBA service by the end of his current contract and can only be offered by the team that drafted him or traded for his rookie contract.
Then, a player must meet one of the following three criteria.
  • Be named to an All-NBA team in the most recent season or both seasons before it
  • OR, be named NBA Defensive Player of the Year in the most recent season or both seasons before it
  • OR, be named NBA MVP in any of the three previous seasons
For Kemba, this means the difference between any team other than Charlotte offering 4 years, 141mm and Charlotte offering 5 years 221mm. Before the supermax, Charlotte could have offered 5 years, 191mm. This is a big deal for Kemba!
 
djct1999 said:
A supermax deal (35% of the current cap) can only be offered to a player that has (or will have) completed eight years of NBA service by the end of his current contract and can only be offered by the team that drafted him or traded for his rookie contract.
Then, a player must meet one of the following three criteria.
  • Be named to an All-NBA team in the most recent season or both seasons before it
  • OR, be named NBA Defensive Player of the Year in the most recent season or both seasons before it
  • OR, be named NBA MVP in any of the three previous seasons
For Kemba, this means the difference between any team other than Charlotte offering 4 years, 141mm and Charlotte offering 5 years 221mm. Before the supermax, Charlotte could have offered 5 years, 191mm. This is a big deal for Kemba!
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Good explanation! The league introduced it as a way to help small markets keep their superstars. The thinking being that those small market teams would basically be able to make star players an offer they couldn't refuse, money-wise. It has had mixed results though. Has created some real albatross contracts (Wall, and Westbrook to a lesser extent) and a couple players have still turned down the money in favor of free agency (Kawhi, Anthony Davis).

Charlotte probably has the toughest decision of any team yet. As much as I love him, I don't think Kemba is worth 221 million on the free market. And Charlotte is a mediocre team that has a lot of bad contracts on the books already. It really seems like it would make more sense for Charlotte (or for both parties, really) to blow it up and try to get some good draft picks and young players. Trading Kemba last year for value would have made a lot of sense.
 
awfuldan said:
Good explanation! The league introduced it as a way to help small markets keep their superstars.
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If they really wanted to help small markets they shouldn't count the additional salary against their cap. (I assume they do now?)
 
UofCT2009 said:
If they really wanted to help small markets they shouldn't count the additional salary against their cap. (I assume they do now?)
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Yeah you are correct. There is some buzz that they may change that though. Not sure it will happen, but a lot of people are talking about it.
 
UofCT2009 said:
He’s not a top 10 player
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He was absolutely a top 10 player for this year.

He was a top 10 offensive guy and a top 5 defensive guy in one package.

His shoulder injury hurt his shooting numbers in March/April, but he was fantastic all year. Had 3 months of 60% TS% on 30% usage. Led the league in RPM, 5th in win shares, 4th by PIPM, led the league in steals.
 
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auror said:
He was absolutely a top 10 player for this year.

He was a top 10 offensive guy and a top 5 defensive guy in one package.

His shoulder injury hurt his shooting numbers in March/April, but he was fantastic all year. Had 3 months of 60% TS% on 30% usage. Led the league in RPM, 5th in win shares, 4th by PIPM, led the league in steals.
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I guess the numbers proved me wrong! I'm biased being an Indy fan.
 
For those who didn't see Klay Thompson's reaction to finding out Kemba was voted All-NBA over him:



I like Klay. I think he's an underrated player who gets overshadowed by Steph and KD, but this reaction is ridiculous. His argument about making 5 straight finals is weak considering he's playing on one of the greatest teams ever constructed. He's also acting like Kemba is totally undeserving. Kemba was arguably the best PG in the Eastern Conference. At worst, #2 behind Kyrie. Without Kemba, the Hornets are a 15 win team rather than being in the hunt for the playoffs. If Klay wants to be highlighted in the league, he should leave the Warriors in free agency and go lead his own team next year.
 
UCbcm said:
For those who didn't see Klay Thompson's reaction to finding out Kemba was voted All-NBA over him:



I like Klay. I think he's an underrated player who gets overshadowed by Steph and KD, but this reaction is ridiculous. His argument about making 5 straight finals is weak considering he's playing on one of the greatest teams ever constructed. He's also acting like Kemba is totally undeserving. Kemba was arguably the best PG in the Eastern Conference. At worst, #2 behind Kyrie. Without Kemba, the Hornets are a 15 win team rather than being in the hunt for the playoffs. If Klay wants to be highlighted in the league, he should leave the Warriors in free agency and go lead his own team next year.
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Basketball is pretty easy when you're always being guarded by the worst player on the court and 2 of your teammates are constantly being double teamed. Could Klay lead the Hornets to 38 wins? Doubtful, that roster is garbage.
 
Klay sacrifices a lot but I wouldn't have put him above Kemba this year. Kemba had his best year and Klay struggled for months at the start of the season. Definitely understand Klay's frustration but at the end of the day, he is in an amazing position. If he wants individual accolades, he can leave the Warriors this summer after the Finals.

Speaking of that, the Warriors organization has got to be happy Klay didn't get named All-NBA. It's going to be hard enough to deal with re-signing him to a max, with KD also being a free agent (Knicks plz) and Draymond's contract coming up. They definitely did not need him to be supermax eligible.
 
UofCT2009 said:
Basketball is pretty easy when you're always being guarded by the worst player on the court and 2 of your teammates are constantly being double teamed. Could Klay lead the Hornets to 38 wins? Doubtful, that roster is garbage.
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Would love to see how Klay performs when he is the focal point in an offense with minimal help like Kemba has had to deal with his entire career.
 
awfuldan said:
Klay sacrifices a lot but I wouldn't have put him above Kemba this year. Kemba had his best year and Klay struggled for months at the start of the season.
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Yeah this is pretty much the crux of it. Klay didn't deserve it this year.
 
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UofCT2009 said:
Basketball is pretty easy when you're always being guarded by the worst player on the court and 2 of your teammates are constantly being double teamed. Could Klay lead the Hornets to 38 wins? Doubtful, that roster is garbage.
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You can't be serious, Klay sacrifices his game more than any player in the league and always gets the toughest assignment on the defensive end. The real screwjob is this was the first all-defensive team he ever made.
 
awfuldan said:
Klay sacrifices a lot but I wouldn't have put him above Kemba this year. Kemba had his best year and Klay struggled for months at the start of the season. Definitely understand Klay's frustration but at the end of the day, he is in an amazing position. If he wants individual accolades, he can leave the Warriors this summer after the Finals.

Speaking of that, the Warriors organization has got to be happy Klay didn't get named All-NBA. It's going to be hard enough to deal with re-signing him to a max, with KD also being a free agent (Knicks plz) and Draymond's contract coming up. They definitely did not need him to be supermax eligible.
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Agree with everything except Klay only really struggled for the first 7 games of the season, after that he averaged over 22 ppg on 47% fg and 42% 3 point fg. And we all know about his defense.
 
superjohn said:
Agree with everything except Klay only really struggled for the first 7 games of the season, after that he averaged over 22 ppg on 47% fg and 42% 3 point fg. And we all know about his defense.
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Word, good point! Looking at game logs now. Hard to say a dude is struggling when he is breaking the record for most threes in an NBA game..
 
Quick check shows Ray made all NBA 3rd team once, and 2nd team once. Drummond 3rd team once. I think this firmly establishes Kemba as #2 greatest Husky NBAer.
 
Dogdeacon said:
Quick check shows Ray made all NBA 3rd team once, and 2nd team once. Drummond 3rd team once. I think this firmly establishes Kemba as #2 greatest Husky NBAer.
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Rip's title and three All-star bids have gotta put him right up there. Kemba has a long career ahead of him though. Really hope he continues to play well and starts to win more.
 
It possible for everyone to be right. Kemba absolutely deserved this recognition this season. Klay Thompson is an insane talent and without question worthy of a super max deal. The real issue is having 100 dudes in the media have such an impact on a players salary.
 
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superjohn said:
You can't be serious, Klay sacrifices his game more than any player in the league and always gets the toughest assignment on the defensive end. The real screwjob is this was the first all-defensive team he ever made.
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What was false?
 
UCbcm said:
Would love to see how Klay performs when he is the focal point in an offense with minimal help like Kemba has had to deal with his entire career.
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Exactly
 
Is Kemba on a possible Hall of Fame trajectory? If he ends up a 5x or 6x all-star, top 25 all-time in scoring (very possible), all-NBA, NCAA champion and All-American, he could get a HOF nod for sure. Throw an NBA championship in there and he's probably a lock.
 
superjohn said:
Agree with everything except Klay only really struggled for the first 7 games of the season, after that he averaged over 22 ppg on 47% fg and 42% 3 point fg. And we all know about his defense.
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Your right but Kemba started off hot the first on 7 games and the rest of season averaging 25.6 ppg on .43% fg 35% 3 point fg and 4.4 reb 5.5 ast. With Klay stats you forgot to put 3.8 reb 2.4 ast
For career they both average about the same about 20ppg 4 reb kemba 6 ast klay 2.3 ast. Just Klahy gets the recognition cus he is on a super team and kemba has no help. Jordan is the second best player on Charlotte and he don't play anymore.
 
Stephen A was going hard on the “Kemba sucks and Klay should have made it” platform today
 
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