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Karaban, Floyd ready to help Huskies next season
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Agree. As usual I think people have unrealistic expectations about freshmen beating out seniors. I do think Karaban will play, because we will need his shooting at the SF spot. Johnson is going to get some time at the 4 as well. You're right that defense and rebounding will be critical for Karaban earning minutes...at either forward spot.
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Agree that he'll need to rebound and defend. Just that I think we rely on AA for his defensive post presence more than we would for AK. I doubt we'll expect AK to block shots and grab 5+ boards a game. He'll earn his minutes shooting from the perimeter and (hopefully) scoring in transition, where AA that's more of a secondary priority.
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Any chance Corey has grown a couple of inches this past year?
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His shooting stroke is pure. Pretty quick too which is always a good sign that he's a naturally gifted scorer
He's already listed at 6'3" so he's not really short. Baylor won the title last year with all four of their primary guards between 6'2" to 6'4". He was only 17 though so good chance he gets to 6'4". We still have a lot of size on this team so it's not much of a concern if he didn't grow.
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Everybody on the board knows I'm "all in" on Karaban. By the end of November, barring injury etc,, every boneyarder is going to want him on the court 24/7/365. I think he will anchor a front court spot as a 4 with Sanogo and Clingan, as an interchangeable 4-5 with either Johnson, or Akok, and as a 5 if he is the only big in the game based on a game situation.
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
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Everybody on the board knows I'm "all in" on Karaban. By the end of November, barring injury etc,, every boneyarder is going to want him on the court 24/7/365. I think he will anchor a front court spot as a 4 with Sanogo and Clingan, as an interchangeable 4-5 with either Johnson, or Akok, and as a 5 if he is the only big in the game based on a game situation.
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
Sounds like if he's not 1st team all Big East as a freshman it'll be a disappointment lol.
….hence the second half of my sentence “or he made the biggest off season jump in recent memory….”
Pump the brakes. This kid will be good but Jesus the hyperbole on this board for kids who haven’t played a second of college basketball is insaneEverybody on the board knows I'm "all in" on Karaban. By the end of November, barring injury etc,, every boneyarder is going to want him on the court 24/7/365. I think he will anchor a front court spot as a 4 with Sanogo and Clingan, as an interchangeable 4-5 with either Johnson, or Akok, and as a 5 if he is the only big in the game based on a game situation.
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
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His ability to use his length is impressive. On a lot of those shots he didn't seem to have much space but then he extended his arm and the defender was nowhere close.
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yes, bold prediction, 3rd team all big east
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linden was playing a 10 year old
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The best part about Floyd and Karaban (and Castle) is that they're basketball players in the true sense of the definition. They can score from three levels and and they move the ball to the best spot on the floor given what the situation presents. It's kinda old school basketball talent - for reference think current day Villanova or old school Celtics sorts of players. I'm high on both these guys - they should help us nicely before the middle of their sophomore seasons at worst case.
We love our Casual Fans!
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Isn't this discussion why these boards are fun. The transfer portal is the new silly season.It was not a prediction. It was a bold prediction
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Everybody on the board knows I'm "all in" on Karaban. By the end of November, barring injury etc,, every boneyarder is going to want him on the court 24/7/365. I think he will anchor a front court spot as a 4 with Sanogo and Clingan, as an interchangeable 4-5 with either Johnson, or Akok, and as a 5 if he is the only big in the game based on a game situation.
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
Great stuff!
In Ricker we trust....
Excellent overview @Ricker.. In addition to AK's and CF's physical talents-- I'm excited about/impressed with the maturity of their game at a young age and their BBIQ. You can tell by the way they handle themselves on the court and their interactions with teammates/coaches that they "get it". This quality will be a tremendous asset with the upperclassmen they'll be playing with this year. Can easily see both of them become closers over the course of their careers at UConn. Expecting them to recruit similar guys they've played with and know to Storrs .Everybody on the board knows I'm "all in" on Karaban. By the end of November, barring injury etc,, every boneyarder is going to want him on the court 24/7/365. I think he will anchor a front court spot as a 4 with Sanogo and Clingan, as an interchangeable 4-5 with either Johnson, or Akok, and as a 5 if he is the only big in the game based on a game situation.
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
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I generally agree with the caution that expectations are at the root of most disappointments and much upset. I similarly seek out excitement far less than I did earlier in my life. But enthusiasm is still very much on the table, and I've liked both Floyd and Karaban from initial writeups and videos, through successful recruitment, their early arrivals, and what I've heard and read about them.
I've got no business making predictions, bold or otherwise, but I'm very happy they are both in the fold, have months of experience in the program, and am eager to see them on the court as they grow from teens into their 20s.
I've got no business making predictions, bold or otherwise, but I'm very happy they are both in the fold, have months of experience in the program, and am eager to see them on the court as they grow from teens into their 20s.
I’m sorry, what? Are you moderating the board now?
Love the polyannas on here but calling a five paragraph essay on how a kid who’s borderline top 100 is going to come in and tear it up before he plays a minute of college bball nuts is off limits? Love rickers enthusiasm but the rest of the BY needs to ease up on the kool aid buddy.
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I read @Ricker 's post differently than you did. I get the impression that others did as well.
Sure, some might indeed be overreacting in the manner you'd like to slow down. And sure, it registered that you "love Ricker's enthusiasm but...“ I intend no put down by quoting you or offering a redirect.
If I could wave a magic wand, I'd diffuse some needless tension borne of mismatched degrees of good feelings about a player who many regard as having been underranked. April certainly doesn't strike me as the time for conflicting competitive pronouncements.
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Agreed, meant no disrespect to him. My apologies Ricker.
It’s just an exhausting loop on the BY - we hype incoming freshmen up to ridiculous levels, they (completely understandably) take some time to adjust to the college game, and the loons on here are inevitably surprised these kids aren’t getting minutes and are braying for Dan Hurley’s head constantly. Hawkins was a much better prospect coming out and he had amazing flashes this year but was inconsistent. Diggins too had more hype coming out and we know what happened there.
I think it’s better to set our expectations lower for these kids. I think Karaban will be great - a few years down the road. He may have a baptism by fire next year though and we’ll see who’s right.
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I was trying to be nice. Try this on for size....SHUT UP!!
Solid grade school comeback on your end, really nailed it.
Nowhere in my post did I personally attack anyone - just calling out the sometimes ridiculous optimism that inevitably permeates the board in the off-season. Already apologized in response to Hans’ well taken points. Thanks for weighing in though
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I replied to your quoting my post, read your apology to Hans, and wasn't able to edit my response. Let's move on, water under the bridge.
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Man, you're more of a Karaban fan than I am! I'm not making any predictions because I really don't know how he is going to adjust to D1 college basketball. With freshman you just don't know. But I hope you're right!Everybody on the board knows I'm "all in" on Karaban. By the end of November, barring injury etc,, every boneyarder is going to want him on the court 24/7/365. I think he will anchor a front court spot as a 4 with Sanogo and Clingan, as an interchangeable 4-5 with either Johnson, or Akok, and as a 5 if he is the only big in the game based on a game situation.
Free Throws at the end of close games:
Maybe it makes sense to have a frontcourt player on the court who makes free throws - 30 for 30 Peachjam
Rebounding & Post Defense 1 on 1
He boxes out and I've seen him defend multiple 7 footers and power guys. He has more lower body strength than Johnson or Akok to hold position. (Admittedly both Johnson and Akok are better off the ball rim protectors).
Passing
Karaban will only be behind AJ as a creative passer, and he will successfully feed another big in the post.
Ball Handling
Equal to Martin. Karaban can go end to end with the ball while being guarded, but he's an IQ player that will more likely give the ball up to the right player on the way. He will be a great outlet vs pressure, catching a contested inbounds pass, and distributing, or, getting fouled and going to the line.
3 Point Shooting
I will be shocked if he isn't 35%+ with 3-6 attempts a game. I expect less takes coming off screens a la Polley and Hawkins, and more takes from kickouts on drives by guards. (that I assume we will have)
Perimeter defense
I've seen him chase Matt Cross all around the 3 point line.
I've seen him shut down Kadary Richmond backdowns
It isn't his forte, but he can match up sufficiently
2 Footers
He will make putbacks and get the "and one". The era of missing 50% of our bunnies is over.
Team Defense
Up to Hurley to be using Karaban correctly. In my mind a defensive scheme that gets him stuck switching onto quick guards is where he would be in the worst shape. He can perform in a press with his IQ and anticipation in the same manner as Nadav Henefeld, (not saying as well, just similar capability).
And now you know
You too can be on the Karaban train. Freshman bah humbug. He's a basketball player.
All aboard?
I think Karaban and Floyd will be productive next Year because they had a full year of practice with the team helping them adjust to the college game speed. Conversely Hawkins, Johnson and Diggins did not have that and therefore were not as prepared to make an impact as Karaban and Floyd are. I think practicing with the team the previous year helped make Akok more impactful right away his freshman year.
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