2020 Recruiting: Kadary Richmond reopens recruitment

[superjohn]

From a pure basketball standpoint, who;s the better player? Kadary or Jackson?

I don't have an informed opinion, but my impression is that Kadary is the better player right now, whereas Jackson has the upside.

Jackson was Hurley's number one recruiting target for this class, that's all that matters.

 

[ucawn]

I liked Kadary a lot, I can see why the staff wants Andre more. Cuse offered Kadary, I just hope he ends up anywhere but there

 

[jleves]

After my applesauce post, I'm a bit reluctant to jump back in - but here goes....

Isn't Jackson a wing and Kadary a guard? Why would Jackson take us out for Kad?

I would think like either Cliff or Cardwell for center, the staff would be in on Kadary or Cam for a quality guard.

Explain to this Spaghettio eater.

 

[husky429]

After my applesauce post, I'm a bit reluctant to jump back in - but here goes....

Isn't Jackson a wing and Kadary a guard? Why would Jackson take us out for Kad?

I would think like either Cliff or Cardwell for center, the staff would be in on Kadary or Cam for a quality guard.

Explain to this Spaghettio eater.

Yeah. I'm not sure this is real insider info from finkelstein. Might be conjecture

 

[Huskyforlife]

After my applesauce post, I'm a bit reluctant to jump back in - but here goes....

Isn't Jackson a wing and Kadary a guard? Why would Jackson take us out for Kad?

I would think like either Cliff or Cardwell for center, the staff would be in on Kadary or Cam for a quality guard.

Explain to this Spaghettio eater.

Jackson said he's going to compete for minutes at SG and SF. I think Thomas is different because of his talent, Hurley wouldn't be able to pass on someone like him.

 

[UconnU]

After my applesauce post, I'm a bit reluctant to jump back in - but here goes....

Isn't Jackson a wing and Kadary a guard? Why would Jackson take us out for Kad?

I would think like either Cliff or Cardwell for center, the staff would be in on Kadary or Cam for a quality guard.

Explain to this Spaghettio eater.

Ehhh... they overlap A LOT. Longer multiposition perimeter players. We also have JB already who fits that mold. Hurley probably wants a few of them but I don’t see us landing another in this class. A player like Thomas is a totally different type of player that doesn’t overlap. Imo.

 

[scuba lou]

Syracuse has a gag order on UConn.... their fans can’t help trashing JB and GMac for losing Jackson to us. They keep locking threads and asking people to only discussing thread topics

 

[UconnU]

Syracuse has a gag order on UConn.... their fans can’t help trashing JB and GMac for losing Jackson to us. They keep locking threads and asking people to only discussing thread topics

They can’t beat us on the court or in recruiting(theyre relegated to having to late panic offer our plan Bs), they can’t even make fun of the conference we play in anymore. It’s eating them alive inside. They’re going to be calling for Boeheims head here shortly when they under perform this season.

 

[Burnsbros23]

We actually played Jackson the year before in Kansas. They could easily play together.

Kadary is a 6’5 scorer. Can handle really good offensive player can play 2/3 and a little 1. He should really blow up this year at Brewster. All the talent in the world there. Just needs to be consistent.

Andre just really looks the part. Good size and length. He wasn’t great the week I saw Him. But he can be an elite nba defender. Play 2-4. He just wasn’t a great offensive player in the half court. He was really patient didn’t force anything.

You would need some shooting at the other spots if they were ur 2 and 3.

 

[uconngb]

We actually played Jackson the year before in Kansas. They could easily play together.

Kadary is a 6’5 scorer. Can handle really good offensive player can play 2/3 and a little 1. He should really blow up this year at Brewster. All the talent in the world there. Just needs to be consistent.

Andre just really looks the part. Good size and length. He wasn’t great the week I saw Him. But he can be an elite nba defender. Play 2-4. He just wasn’t a great offensive player in the half court. He was really patient didn’t force anything.

You would need some shooting at the other spots if they were ur 2 and 3.

From what I’ve read and heard it seems to me that Kadary is more of a scoring 1 or 2, while Jackson is an athletic, good defender but challenged-shooting 2/3 that could even defend the 4. They sound like different players from that profile, but I haven’t seen either of them play. What I think of is one of our best teams ever started KO at point, Doron at 1/2, Ray at 3 (6’5” at best) and Donny M at 4 6’6” if he stretched). Different time and game I understand, but I think if the players are athletic enough they can make up for little lack of height.

 

[pj]

Yeah Kadary seems like an NBA 1 college 2, seems more of a Cam substitute than an Andre competitor. I doubt the coaches back off him. With RJCole-JGaffney-JBouknight-AJackson there's room for one more perimeter guy and it has to be a scorer. Either Kadary or Cam would be great gets. I can see why if Kadary lacks self-confidence he might want to go where there is less competition for minutes, but maybe his confidence will rise at Brewster.

 

[Ricker]

I guess Kadary's recruitment is wide open. Since Jackson's commitment there has been a crystal ball for UConn, Seton Hall, and now Syracuse. I hope we really are still in it. He gives us depth at point in a crunch as potentially point guard #3 after Gaffney and Cole, and, we need at least 5 quality players to share the majority of minutes at 1,2,3, otherwise we are too thin for injury or foul trouble.

 

[intlzncster]

From what I’ve read and heard it seems to me that Kadary is more of a scoring 1 or 2, while Jackson is an athletic, good defender but challenged-shooting 2/3 that could even defend the 4. They sound like different players from that profile, but I haven’t seen either of them play. What I think of is one of our best teams ever started KO at point, Doron at 1/2, Ray at 3 (6’5” at best) and Donny M at 4 6’6” if he stretched). Different time and game I understand, but I think if the players are athletic enough they can make up for little lack of height.

Kadary doesn't seem much like a college PG from what I've seen.

 

[uconngb]

Kadary doesn't seem much like a college PG from what I've seen.

Right....that's what I meant by "scoring 1". Doesn't seem like a prototypical point

 

[uconngb]

Agree - think you’re right.

I would be happy if we got one of those two bigs and were in it til the end w Cam. Getting André feels like it allows that risk to be taken??

 

[Fishy]

I would be happy if we got one of those two bigs and were in it til the end w Cam. Getting André feels like it allows that risk to be taken??

No inside info, but my sense is that we’re a long shot for Cam.

But I’m with you - just get one of those two bigs, take a shot with Cam and then just be open if something falls in their laps later on.

 

[QuickDraw]

Richmond picked up 3 CB's since 10/5-10/7 for cuse. kinda anyone but them

 

[MattMang23]

The Cuse board is torn about whether they want him. Some saying they’re happy to take a top 100 kid who’s been climbing up the rankings. Others saying they don’t want UConn’s “sloppy seconds.” One guy said Kadary was never going to UConn because he’s too good for us. Lololol. Apparently we don’t recruit top 100 kids regularly...?

 

[Dooooooomed]

Kadary has that NBA-caliber talent. I hope he doesn't waste it in the zone.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Adam Finklestein suggests that UConn is out after getting Jackson...

If Richmond is getting good advice we should be out. He's too similar to Jackson to come in as part of the same class. Especially with Bouk already on the team.

 

[Chief00]

We played him on the adidas gauntlet. He killed us. He’s under rated. I’d LOVE to get him.

I agree.

 

[UConnStats]

Kadary has that NBA-caliber talent. I hope he doesn't waste it in the zone.

Bit of a stretch although I do really like Richmond. The main issue with signing Richmond instead of Jackson is that Jackson was their (and our) #1 priority. It's a bad look to miss on a guy you put that much effort into. But Richmond is very talented.

If Richmond is getting good advice we should be out. He's too similar to Jackson to come in as part of the same class. Especially with Bouk already on the team.

They aren't that similar, but our PT at the 1-3 will be pretty tight now with Cole, Gaffney, Bouknight, Adams, Wilson, and Jackson all in the fold for the next couple of years.

 

[Chief00]

If Richmond is getting good advice we should be out. He's too similar to Jackson to come in as part of the same class. Especially with Bouk already on the team.

Richmond is a Scorer, Jackson is a Glue Man who can rebound, defend, pass and score a little.

 

[Chief00]

We actually played Jackson the year before in Kansas. They could easily play together.

Kadary is a 6’5 scorer. Can handle really good offensive player can play 2/3 and a little 1. He should really blow up this year at Brewster. All the talent in the world there. Just needs to be consistent.

Andre just really looks the part. Good size and length. He wasn’t great the week I saw Him. But he can be an elite nba defender. Play 2-4. He just wasn’t a great offensive player in the half court. He was really patient didn’t force anything.

You would need some shooting at the other spots if they were ur 2 and 3.

Agree. Two different players and we could definitely use both. You need both. You have to be able to defend and score so the game isn’t so difficult. This idea that we have enough of good players is untrue in my view - we need more. Things aren’t static.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Bit of a stretch although I do really like Richmond. The main issue with signing Richmond instead of Jackson is that Jackson was their (and our) #1 priority. It's a bad look to miss on a guy you put that much effort into. But Richmond is very talented.

They aren't that similar, but our PT at the 1-3 will be pretty tight now with Cole, Gaffney, Bouknight, Adams, Wilson, and Jackson all in the fold for the next couple of years.

That's all I was saying really, not that we wouldn't want him, that he would likely want less competition for time. He's a 6'5" athletic wing/guard. I'm not concerned about the 1, as that's Cole/Gaffney. But the 2-3 have Bouk, Jackson, Wilson, Adams, Gaffney (who will play some SG) and even Polley on occasion. That's a Sr. two JRs, 2 sophomores and 1 other freshman (who is a better fit at the 3, which is the weaker spot) to fill two spots.

@Chief00 called him a scorer, but is he really a shooter? A slasher will be hard pressed to crack the lineup. I only go by what is reported here, and it suggested that he's not. Not like Cam is. If that isn't accurate, I'm happy to be corrected.

 

[gtcam]

Richmond is a Scorer, Jackson is a Glue Man who can rebound, defend, pass and score a little.

Scorers have off nights - hard to have a bad night defending or rebounding and passing if its in your DNA
I'll take the glue guy right now

 

[huskiesNhoos]

Since we love making player comparisons (I'm also guilty)....I'm sticking with my Chris Clarke comparison for Richmond, and thinking Kidd-Gilchrist is pretty apt for Jackson...broken shot and all

 

[ctchamps]

That's all I was saying really, not that we wouldn't want him, that he would likely want less competition for time. He's a 6'5" athletic wing/guard. I'm not concerned about the 1, as that's Cole/Gaffney. But the 2-3 have Bouk, Jackson, Wilson, Adams, Gaffney (who will play some SG) and even Polley on occasion. That's a Sr. two JRs, 2 sophomores and 1 other freshman (who is a better fit at the 3, which is the weaker spot) to fill two spots.

@Chief00 called him a scorer, but is he really a shooter? A slasher will be hard pressed to crack the lineup. I only go by what is reported here, and it suggested that he's not. Not like Cam is. If that isn't accurate, I'm happy to be corrected.

Pretty much sums up what I see. Unless you can get a gifted shooter like Cam the next two scholarships should be focused on bigs.

 

[bendm]

Pretty much sums up what I see. Unless you can get a gifted shooter like Cam the next two scholarships should be focused on bigs.

i tend to agree. but this implies 2 centers among cliff/Javonte Brown Ferguson/cardwell/gray would be open to committing together. so can someone square the playing time calculus for me?

the majority here seem to think the presence of bouk/jackson/adams/wilson/polley has caused kadary to worry about playing time. so why wouldn't the presence of carlton/springs and freshmen center 1 (cliff/Javonte Brown Ferguson) cause freshmen center 2 (cardwell/gray) to be even more worried about playing time?

there's more PT available on the wings because two or three can be on the floor at the same time, whereas there will never be more than 1 center on the floor. so freshmen center 2 would be 4th on the depth chart, whereas kadary would be 2nd or 3rd on the depth chart. i can only picture josh gray agreeing to come into this situation. thoughts?

(yes carlton will be gone in 2 years but the team is also losing vital after this year and polley after next year so that evens out in terms of wing/center PT)

 

[Chief00]

That's all I was saying really, not that we wouldn't want him, that he would likely want less competition for time. He's a 6'5" athletic wing/guard. I'm not concerned about the 1, as that's Cole/Gaffney. But the 2-3 have Bouk, Jackson, Wilson, Adams, Gaffney (who will play some SG) and even Polley on occasion. That's a Sr. two JRs, 2 sophomores and 1 other freshman (who is a better fit at the 3, which is the weaker spot) to fill two spots.

@Chief00 called him a scorer, but is he really a shooter? A slasher will be hard pressed to crack the lineup. I only go by what is reported here, and it suggested that he's not. Not like Cam is. If that isn't accurate, I'm happy to be corrected.

You picked up on the distinction (Scorer vs Shooter). In the limited time I have seen him play, he is a guy who could become a decent shooter, if he worked on it. Cam currently is a better shooter.