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Jon Rothstein -- UConn will heavily explore joining another league in the offseason

They would like nothing more right now than to kick Baylor out .

No small school is ever going to vote to kick another out, because they all know it could be them next.
The B12 is a conference of mostly small schools (in terms of cfb value). Kicking out Baylor would get 4 votes at most, and that's only if Tex Tech and ok st do what their big brothers tell them to vote.
 
It seems to me the P5 hasn't completely closed off the G5 for the football playoff because they are trying to keep G5 fans bases participating. G5 fans go to games and watch them on TV, G5 teams travel and spend money, and G5 fans watch the college playoff. IMO Houston was going to get shut out of the playoff this year even if they ran the table but the "dream" kept the G5 energized. People will spend money as long as there is "hope."

Not sure I believe Congress will ever get involved. Think about it from a Senator's perspective...lets say the P5 makes it own tournament and Villanova gets cut out. Is a Pennsylvania Senator going to engage when it negatively impacts Penn State? How many fans/voters does Villanova have versus Penn St? At some point it becomes a poltical math problem for congressional representatives and most of the populous states have a P5 team.

That said I think the more likely option is the P5 creates its own tournament and invites a small handful of G5 teams to participate. It keeps the G5 fans engaged and allow the P5 to better monopolize the basketball money. Money and control are powerful motivators and under this system the P5 essentially replaces the NCAA.

It wouldn't be a Pennsylvania senator, but it would be a group from Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming.

But I agree with you on the most likely outcome. I just don't see the P5 ever totally severing the path a G5 has to a national title. I think, at the least, any public institution receiving governmental aid that wants to compete at the highest level will be able to do so.
 
Let's get real...football programs from Massachusetts, Delaware, Hawaii, New Mexico New Hampshire, etc....will never be routinely competitive with the top 50 or so teams in the country.

We have had the convenient fiction that the 125 or so FBS teams are all playing for the same national championship. And we all know that it just is not so. The top 20% will be in the running every year (maybe even 10%).

The team strength of those 125 programs will plot out on a curve...a distribution curve shaped like a bell....teams may move up and down that curve over time, but the programs themselves rarely move from the back 50 to the perennial top 25 in less time than it takes a planet to form.

With the playoff, it is now even more difficult for a team to slide into an NC. You, now, must be strong enough to beat, back to back, two of the stronger teams in the country.

We know the money is in the heavy weight division....and the FCS, even with their more open access playoff system, fails to grab the public attention.

Youngstown State vs James Madison in the FCS final, hit the highest TV rating in a couple of years......and essentially had as many viewers as the high school bowl..US Army All American Bowl.
 
It wouldn't be a Pennsylvania senator, but it would be a group from Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming.

But I agree with you on the most likely outcome. I just don't see the P5 ever totally severing the path a G5 has to a national title. I think, at the least, any public institution receiving governmental aid that wants to compete at the highest level will be able to do so.

Let's get real..football programs from Massachusetts, Delaware, Hawaii, New Mexico New Hampshire, etc...will never be routinely competitive with the top 50 or so teams in the country.

We have had the convenient fiction that the 125 or so FBS teams are all playing for the same national championship. And we all know that it just is not so. The top 20% will be in the running every year (maybe even 10%).
Yup. Orrin Hatch (who had a lot of seniority in the Senate) was making noise about investigations, but then Utah got invited to the Pac. The CFP and NY6 payout a pittance to the G5, IIRC, to keep the minnows happy. Even if there's further P5/G5 separation, as long as the revenue is stable they'll probably just continue to throw a few crumbs out. Why get AG's involved when all parties can just renegotiate in the NCAA body? If enough G5 schools make a racket, they'll just expand the playoff somehow, while still heavily protecting P5 access.
 
Let's get real..football programs from Massachusetts, Delaware, Hawaii, New Mexico New Hampshire, etc...will never be routinely competitive with the top 50 or so teams in the country.

I agree this is absolutely true, especially given the P5 system, which has been specifically designed to effectively lock out future competitors and guarantee that the "first tier" status of 65 chosen schools continues into the future regardless of merit. I guess 4 schools from North Carolina are deserving though.
 
More so than any school from the above mentioned states, I'd say....all four schools have finished in the AP Top 25 since 1990 (a total of 13 times)...even Wake and Duke have finished Top 25.
 
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But...I do see the problem...I always liked the Grantland Rice piece...it expresses a particularly American sentiment...


Whatever Odds There Are

Give me but room to fight my way,
I ask no other gift from Fate;
Though it should crowd on me at bay,
Where only ghosts and shadows wait.

Shadows of old defeats blown by,
Ghosts of old dreams drawn from life's pit;
Yet all I ask is room to try
And prove Fate cannot make me quit.

No glint of glory from the height,
No flare of fame to call me far;
Merely the ground to make my fight
Against whatever odds there are.
 
We'd be essentially jumping from Sinking Boat A to Sinking Boat B.
 
and paying $15m+ to do it
Any chance that the buyout from the AAC can be spread over some period of time/netted against any payments we have coming from the AAC/Big East settlements? If so, then there may not be any/much cash out of pocket??? If so, then perhaps the net cash flow over a couple of years is worth it in the end??? Dunno....
 
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This was from Benedict earlier today
 
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This was from Benedict earlier today
You know this is all a smoke screen when you read "We are committed to the long-term success of the American Athletic Conference." Give me a break. No one is committed to the long-term success of the AAC other than maybe Tulsa.
 
Blah, blah, blah.. Boilerplate that could be written by an intern. Of course, they had to put that out there - whether or not any discussions are occurring.
Well he put it out there today and nobody on here posted it...so there you go.
 
You know this is all a smoke screen when you read "We are committed to the long-term success of the American Athletic Conference." Give me a break. No one is committed to the long-term success of the AAC other than maybe Tulsa.

Blah, blah, blah.. Boilerplate that could be written by an intern. Of course, they had to put that out there - whether or not any discussions are occurring.

Yeah..and I also know that the only way UConn is talking to the BE is if they either A) drop football to FCS level and try to go back to the CAA or B) Drop it all together. Since I just got s survey as a season ticket holder about tailgating and Benedict just went all in to bring fans back I don't see that happening any time soon.
 
Yeah..and I also know that the only way UConn is talking to the BE is if they either A) drop football to FCS level and try to go back to the CAA or B) Drop it all together. Since I just got s survey as a season ticket holder about tailgating and Benedict just went all in to bring fans back I don't see that happening any time soon.
AAC for football. There is a financial aspect to this where we give a little on the AAC side.
 
AAC for football. There is a financial aspect to this where we give a little on the AAC side.
If you leave the AAC they are gonna charge UConn a buyout..and there is no benefit to them saying yeah you can stay as football only. This isn't reality based what so ever!
 
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If you leave the AAC they are gonna charge UConn a buyout..and there is no benefit to them saying yeah you can stay as football only. This isn't reality based what so ever!
Yes it is. We would take a 50% conference share (as opposed to an 80% conference share for football-only normally), and we pay the buyout over 5 years even though we are still in the conference.
 
Yes it is. We would take a 50% conference share (as opposed to an 80% conference share for football-only normally), and we pay the buyout over 5 years even though we are still in the conference.
There is NO WAY the AAC gives up their most valuable programs and allows the football program to stay. You are delusional...although you showed that in your back and forth with me in the hockey thread. Stick to the cesspool!
 
There is NO WAY the AAC gives up their most valuable programs and allows the football program to stay. You are delusional..although you showed that in your back and forth with me in the hockey thread. Stick to the cesspool!
Speaking of hockey, when was the last time the NHL was shown on Sportscenter or talked about on ESPN radio? If hockey is SOOO popular and gaining popularity, why does soccer (ESPNFC), NBA, MLB, and NFL have their own shows on ESPN but the NHL does not?
 
Speaking of hockey, when was the last time the NHL was shown on Sportscenter or talked about on ESPN radio? If hockey is SOOO popular and gaining popularity, why does soccer (ESPNFC), NBA, MLB, and NFL have their own shows on ESPN but the NHL does not?
The NHL has a network deal with NBC Sports. There for they don't show games on ESPN. The NHL ALSO has their own stand alone network AND Satellite radio channel as well! We can go at this all night long dude. You need to educate yourself on ESPN and their declining subscriber numbers as well.
 
The NHL has a network deal with NBC Sports. There for they don't show games on ESPN. The NHL ALSO has their own stand alone network AND Satellite radio channel as well! We can go at this all night long dude. You are need to educate yourself on ESPN and their declining subscriber numbers as well.
If you think ESPN is declining because they don't show hockey, you're lost. Hockey is screwed long term. The only people that play it are white kids. The league is 98-99% white. America's demographics are changing away from a white majority. In review, hockey is screwed. You don't think NBC Sports has declining viewership? And the NHL is second in importance to NBC. English Premier League is #1 for them (aside from Sunday Night Football and Notre Dame).
 
If you think ESPN is declining because they don't show hockey, you're lost. Hockey is screwed long term. The only people that play it are white kids. The league is 98-99% white. America's demographics are changing away from a white majority. In review, hockey is screwed. You don't think NBC Sports has declining viewership? And the NHL is second in importance to NBC. English Premier League is #1 for them (aside from Sunday Night Football and Notre Dame).
LMFAO..You just showed what a complete genius you are #1...and that you really need to live on the cesspool only! This has to be one of the most racially biased posts regarding a sport I have ever read on here. The NHL is doing just fine...their OWN network and radio channel on Sirius/XM are just fine. You are a genius!
 
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LMFAO..You just showed what a complete genius you are #1..and that you really need to live on the cesspool only! This has to be one of the most racially biased posts regarding a sport I have ever read on here. The NHL is doing just fine..their OWN network and radio channel on Sirius/XM are just fine. You are a genius!
So stats are now racially baised. Wow.
 
So stats are now racially baised. Wow.
No you bring up something TOTALLY out of context and out of line in a conversation that has NOTHING to do with what you posted! Stay on the cesspool you d**k! You are a complete a s s hat!
 
No you bring up something TOTALLY out of context and out of line in a conversation that has NOTHING to do with what you posted! Stay on the cesspool you d**k! You are a complete a s s hat!
Actually you brought up the hockey debate from previously. Not me. And you are the one throwing insults. Not me.
 
Nice try at deflection there sport..
There is NO WAY the AAC gives up their most valuable programs and allows the football program to stay. You are delusional..although you showed that in your back and forth with me in the hockey thread. Stick to the cesspool!
Touche.
 
Touche.
I used that as a reference to you being delusional...you used it as a soap box to talk about your personal views on the sport. Nice try there sport. Again you are showing what a complete A s s hat you are! Thanks for playing!
 
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