Jeff Jacobs: UConn basketball has hit rock bottom

[Deadrody]

Lol don't pretend you're some sort of neutral observer. Youre king of the Ollie fan club. You have gone after and attacked people who disagree with you for the better part of a year now.

Yeah, pretty much. Anyone that says "I don't care if KO stays or goes"... I don't even know how to respond to that.

And for anyone confused, the Boneyard is a depressing place because of the status of the men's basketball program.

 

[August_West]

Yeah, pretty much. Anyone that says "I don't care if KO stays or goes"... I don't even know how to respond to that.

I don't care if Ollie stays or goes.

Both scenarios are fraught with unknowns and danger. Why should I prefer a firing squad over a lethal injection?

Both scenarios potentially present possible future success. But not guaranteed in either case.

 

[Sky ball]

I don't care if Ollie stays or goes.

Both scenarios are fraught with unknowns and danger. Why should I prefer a firing squad over a lethal injection?

Both scenarios potentially present possible future success. But not guaranteed in either case.

I don't disagree with that but I would prefer a new face. Tired of watching bad, losing and uninspired basketball. New blood may bring some fire back to the program.

 

[JMick]

I don't care if Ollie stays or goes.

Both scenarios are fraught with unknowns and danger. Why should I prefer a firing squad over a lethal injection?

Both scenarios potentially present possible future success. But not guaranteed in either case.

Nothing is guaranteed but at least with Ollie gone there is reason for optimism. I don't know how anyone could be optimistic for the future if Ollie is back

 

[August_West]

Nothing is guaranteed but at least with Ollie gone there is reason for optimism. I don't know how anyone could be optimistic for the future if Ollie is back

I mean there are a lot of pieces to that puzzle, arent there?

Optimism on change can only come with the right coaching hire.

would Tom Crean make you optimistic? Not me.

Danny Hurley? I'm skeptical. Doesnt stir my loins really at all at the thought of him here. Is he a great coach or is it that hes just not KO?

I will get on board with your optimism when I see the replacement coaching hire.

 

[JMick]

I mean there are a lot of pieces to that puzzle, arent they.

Optimism on change can only come with the right coaching hire.

would Tom Crean make you optimistic? Not me.

Danny Hurley? I'm skeptical. Doesnt stir my loins really at all at the thought of him here. Is he a great coach or is it that hes just not KO?

I will get on board with your optimism when I see the replacement coaching hire.

I don't want Crean because of Creans Memes but I don't think he's as bad as Ollie. I'd feel much better about next year if he were the coach

 

[August_West]

I don't want Crean because of Creans Memes but I don't think he's as bad as Ollie. I'd feel much better about next year if he were the coach

Oh please.

Crean would be a TERRIBLE hire for this program. If that is the best we can do then its stupid to buy Ollie out right now because we will be replacing Crean in 5 years or less.

Hurley while Im not really enthralled by the notion would be a better in that at least we dont know what he can do at a major program and maybe we catch some lightning in a bottle with a long term program builder. We have a large enough sample size on Tom Crean. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[Sky ball]

I mean there are a lot of pieces to that puzzle, arent there?

Optimism on change can only come with the right coaching hire.

would Tom Crean make you optimistic? Not me.

Danny Hurley? I'm skeptical. Doesnt stir my loins really at all at the thought of him here. Is he a great coach or is it that hes just not KO?

I will get on board with your optimism when I see the replacement coaching hire.

The same could have been same mid 1980's?

Jim Calhoun? I'm skeptical. Doesn't stir my loins really at all at the thought of him here. Is he a great coach or is it that he's just not Dom Perno?

 

[HuskyHawk]

I don't care if Ollie stays or goes.

Both scenarios are fraught with unknowns and danger. Why should I prefer a firing squad over a lethal injection?

Both scenarios potentially present possible future success. But not guaranteed in either case.

I was where you are. Not anymore. I no longer think success is even possible as long as Ollie is the coach. I heard him say last year almost exactly what he said yesterday. He needs to re-evaluate himself and what he does and how he coaches etc. This is what he came up with? He doubled down on exactly the things he has to change. Why would be believe he could recognize it now? I have 100% confidence that he won't think the things that need to change need to change, because what needs to change is his entire philosophy on how to play basketball.

 

[August_West]

The same could have been same mid 1980's?

Jim Calhoun? I'm skeptical. Doesn't stir my loins really at all at the thought of him here. Is he a great coach or is it that he's just not Dom Perno?

Yup it couldve. Read on, Skyball

 

[Nostical]

Our basketball program desperately needs a new leader. We’ve lost hope. And there’s nothing worse than that. We felt it before. Ollie is Dom Perno. Both were former players, bleeding blue. Keeping Perno would have been a mistake and this time it’s even worse. We hadn’t been to the top of the mountain when we fired Perno. We took a chance on Calhoun. Now the stakes are higher, it’s about the viability and reputation of UConn Basketball. We can’t afford to wait. We need to find the money and make the change. Benedict will figure it out and he’ll pull the trigger. Ollie will be gone. Some will feel remorse but not for long as we’ll have lots of better coaches interested in restoring UConn’s greatness.

 

[AntG168]

Oh please.

Crean would be a TERRIBLE hire for this program. If that is the best we can do then its stupid to buy Ollie out right now because we will be replacing Crean in 5 years or less.

Hurley while Im not really enthralled by the notion would be a better in that at least we dont know what he can do at a major program and maybe we catch some lightning in a bottle with a long term program builder. We have a large enough sample size on Tom Crean. Thanks, but no thanks.

Tom Crean doesn’t get his due credit. He resurrected Indiana basketball from the pit and they’ve been terrible since he’s left.

 

[August_West]

Tom Crean doesn’t get his due credit. He resurrected Indiana basketball from the pit and they’ve been terrible since he’s left.

Terrible since he left? This is the first season without him.

If he resurrected Indiana basketball, why isnt he still there?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Tom Crean doesn’t get his due credit. He resurrected Indiana basketball from the pit and they’ve been terrible since he’s left.

He's not the guy I want, but his "failure" at Indiana is greatly exaggerated. He'd be a significant upgrade over Ollie.

 

[August_West]

He's not the guy I want, but his "failure" at Indiana is greatly exaggerated. He'd be a significant upgrade over Ollie.

 

[Sky ball]

Tom Crean doesn’t get his due credit. He resurrected Indiana basketball from the pit and they’ve been terrible since he’s left.

I may rethink my opinion of T Crean. 3 losing seasons (1st 3 at Indiana), 51 years old. May be a good catch?

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Season School Conf G W L W-L% Simple Rating System
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A rating of strength of schedule. The rating is denominated in points above/below average, where zero is average. Non-Division I games are excluded from the ratings." style="border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(116, 118, 120) rgb(221, 221, 221); border-image: initial; padding: 3px; vertical-align: middle; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); white-space: nowrap; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);">SOS AP Pre AP High before the conclusion of the NCAA tournament)" style="border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: rgb(116, 118, 120) rgb(221, 221, 221); border-image: initial; padding: 3px; vertical-align: middle; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); white-space: nowrap; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);">AP Final Notes
1999-00 Marquette CUSA 29 15 14 .517 7.21 6.83
2000-01 Marquette CUSA 29 15 14 .517 6.78 6.61
2001-02 Marquette CUSA 33 26 7 .788 17.16 4.77 9 12 NCAA Tournament
2002-03 Marquette CUSA 33 27 6 .818 16.28 7.28 18 8 9 NCAA Tournament; Reg. Season Champion; NCAA FF
2003-04 Marquette CUSA 31 19 12 .613 6.48 4.12 23 21
2004-05 Marquette CUSA 31 19 12 .613 6.60 4.73 22
2005-06 Marquette Big East 31 20 11 .645 11.33 8.16 NCAA Tournament
2006-07 Marquette Big East 34 24 10 .706 14.14 6.95 16 8 20 NCAA Tournament
2007-08 Marquette Big East 35 25 10 .714 18.62 8.09 11 10 25 NCAA Tournament
2008-09 Indiana Big Ten 31 6 25 .194 -2.03 8.98
2009-10 Indiana Big Ten 31 10 21 .323 0.76 9.37
2010-11 Indiana Big Ten 32 12 20 .375 9.03 7.65
2011-12 Indiana Big Ten 36 27 9 .750 18.63 7.80 7 16 NCAA Tournament
2012-13 Indiana Big Ten 36 29 7 .806 24.90 8.38 1 1 4 NCAA Tournament; Reg. Season Champion
2013-14 Indiana Big Ten 32 17 15 .531 11.32 6.64
2014-15 Indiana Big Ten 34 20 14 .588 12.94 7.20 22 NCAA Tournament
2015-16 Indiana Big Ten 35 27 8 .771 19.59 6.90 15 10 14 NCAA Tournament; Reg. Season Champion
2016-17 Indiana Big Ten 34 18 16 .529 14.63 8.16 11 3
Career Overall 587 356 231 .606 11.91 7.14
Marquette 286 190 96 .664 11.62 6.39
Indiana 301 166 135 .551 12.20 7.90

 

[August_West]

This thread has turned priceless.

We now want Indianas sloppy seconds?

You want to hire a guy who in Indianas press release for his firing might as well have plugged in the name "Kevin Ollie" . I posted it right above.


THIS is the guy?

 

[AntG168]

Terrible since he left? This is the first season without him.

If he resurrected Indiana basketball, why isnt he still there?

And they’re terrible. And are on track to be terrible again next season lol. He isn’t the greatest coach but he’s proven he can develope his own guys and win

 

[jibsey]

Tom Crean. Wasn't he in True Lies?

 

[August_West]

Benedict might as well use this for his press release:

After deliberative thought and evaluation, including multiple meetings with Tom Kevin about the future, I have decided to make a change in the leadership of our men's basketball program. Tom Crean Kevin Ollie brought us through one of the most challenging periods in IU UConn basketball history, led his players to many successes in the classroom and on the court and represented our university with class and integrity. While winning a National championship and an AAC title in five years , Tom Kevin worked tirelessly to develop great young men and successful teams. However, ultimately, we seek more consistent, high levels of success, and we will not shy away from our expectations. Tom Kevin is a good man and a good coach and we owe him a great debt of gratitude for his many positive contributions to Indiana UConn basketball. We wish him well.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Benedict might as well use this for his press release:

After deliberative thought and evaluation, including multiple meetings with Tom Kevin about the future, I have decided to make a change in the leadership of our men's basketball program. Tom Crean Kevin Ollie brought us through one of the most challenging periods in IU UConn basketball history, led his players to many successes in the classroom and on the court and represented our university with class and integrity. While winning a National championship and an AAC title in five years , Tom Kevin worked tirelessly to develop great young men and successful teams. However, ultimately, we seek more consistent, high levels of success, and we will not shy away from our expectations. Tom Kevin is a good man and a good coach and we owe him a great debt of gratitude for his many positive contributions to Indiana UConn basketball. We wish him well.

What difficult period? That's the press release we'd use for Crean if he replaced Ollie. The difficult period we are seeing has been caused by Kevin Ollie. He is the difficult period.

These were the last four seasons at IU that got Crean fired. Never below .500. And I am cherry picking in your favor. The season before this they were ranked #1 a bit and finished at #4.
2013-14 Indiana Big Ten 32 17 15 .531 11.32 6.64
2014-15 Indiana Big Ten 34 20 14 .588 12.94 7.20 22 NCAA Tournament
2015-16 Indiana Big Ten 35 27 8 .771 19.59 6.90 15 10 14 NCAA Tournament; Reg. Season Champion
2016-17 Indiana Big Ten 34 18 16 .529 14.63 8.16

Kevin has been vastly worse than Crean was at IU. It's not even close. That said, I'd rather roll the dice with a younger guy.

 

[August_West]

What difficult period? That's the press release we'd use for Crean if he replaced Ollie. The difficult period we are seeing has been caused by Kevin Ollie. He is the difficult period.

These were the last four seasons at IU that got Crean fired. Never below .500. And I am cherry picking in your favor. The season before this they were ranked #1 a bit and finished at #4.
2013-14 Indiana Big Ten 32 17 15 .531 11.32 6.64
2014-15 Indiana Big Ten 34 20 14 .588 12.94 7.20 22 NCAA Tournament
2015-16 Indiana Big Ten 35 27 8 .771 19.59 6.90 15 10 14 NCAA Tournament; Reg. Season Champion
2016-17 Indiana Big Ten 34 18 16 .529 14.63 8.16

Kevin has been vastly worse than Crean was at IU. It's not even close. That said, I'd rather roll the dice with a younger guy.

What difficult period?

HOLY CRAP Ollie walked into a post season ban and recruiting sanctions and a mass exodus of players!

 

[JMick]

This thread has turned priceless.

We now want Indianas sloppy seconds?

You want to hire a guy who in Indianas press release for his firing might as well have plugged in the name "Kevin Ollie" . I posted it right above.


THIS is the guy?

Ok strawmaster. No one here has said they want Crean. What they have said is he's a better coach than you're giving him credit for and I think he's a better coach than Ollie. I specifically said I don't want him to be the coach.

 

[August_West]

Ok strawmaster. No one here has said they want Crean. What they have said is he's a better coach than you're giving him credit for and I think he's a better coach than Ollie. I specifically said I don't want him to be the coach.

I dont know if he is a better coach than Ollie. We could very much debate that.
Only one of them has a NC.

Listen bucko, you want to go all in on change you better give me better than Crean. This is serious business.

 

[borninansonia]

I think the morale of the boneyard has reached rock bottom.

Any change will be viewed as positive, unless all the players leave and KO stays.