By getting good you mean cheating, right? Because recruiting is illegal by CIAC rules but all the good private schools do it.That’s the type of attitude we need to change in CT HS basketball and football. Too many rules that punish good programs and enable bad programs to the point that the bad is rewarded and the good is punished.
Catholic schools aren't limited to kids in their own town. They may not recruit, but the best teams at a Catholic school have kids driving miles to play for the better There
By good you mean cheating, right? Because recruiting is illegal by CIAC rules but all the good private schools do it.
If the Catholic high schools have such a huge recruitment advantage, how is it that the other Div I Catholic schools aren’t dominating the divisision? It would seem as though there should be, in many years, an all-Catholic final.
I guess there’s no need to consider the coaching ability of East’s head coach, Luke Reilly and the fact that the public schools have, in many cases, twice the enrollment ( East 650, Danbury 2,941, Trumbull 2,151, East Hartford 1,649, etc). It all comes down to unfair recruitment allegations —which are all they are!!
If the Catholic high schools have such a huge recruitment advantage, how is it that the other Div I Catholic schools aren’t dominating the divisision? It would seem as though there should be, in many years, an all-Catholic final.
I guess there’s no need to consider the coaching ability of East’s head coach, Luke Reilly and the fact that the public schools have, in many cases, twice the enrollment ( East 650, Danbury 2,941, Trumbull 2,151, East Hartford 1,649, etc). It all comes down to unfair recruitment allegations —which are all they are!!
That's not true. There are 4 divisions but there isn't a Catholic school only state tournament.Mass has a catholic school only state tourney. Their recruiting base is way bigger than even a LL or class 5 like Windsor.
Lol yeah the budget is built in to Luke’s contract that’s why he has to teach at Glastonbury. Luke would win anywhere he goes
New London sure does. When my son was playing youth football he was constantly being asked by his youth coaches to go to NLHS via their Magnet School. He was told they hold a certain number of spots for athletes. One of his teammates did go but only stayed 1/2 a year and came back to the public HS in the town he lives in.Have no idea how you draw that “cheating” conclusion? Must be something in your water? At any rate, Chief was referring about too stringent limits on practice (Geno has brought that up on more than one occasion when he’s asked why he doesn’t recruit more CT girls). Also, when you run a competent program and win, they move you up a division. And remember the football score rules - punishing good teams for scoring.
The rules protect the poorly managed programs.
As for recruiting, my point wasn’t about that. But, if you don’t think non Catholic schools recruit, you are living in an illusion. Chief can give numerous examples. Heck, New London Boys basketball recruits way beyond state lines into DMV territory.
Discontinuing the effect East Catholic coaching has on the results achieved and discounting the lack of success achieved by other Div I Catholic high schools that flly in the face of your argument, as well as depending on your unsubstantiated recruitment allegations.....seems far more “intellectually dishonest”>Trying to compare easts enrollment to a public like they have a similar base to pull talent form is either obtuse or intellectually dishonest.
Discontinuing the effect East Catholic coaching has on the results achieved and discounting the lack of success achieved by other Div I Catholic high schools that flly in the face of your argument, as well as depending on your unsubstantiated recruitment allegations.....seems far more “intellectually dishonest”>
New London sure does. When my son was playing youth football he was constantly being asked by his youth coaches to go to NLHS via their Magnet School. He was told they hold a certain number of spots for athletes. One of his teammates did go but only stayed 1/2 a year and came back to the public HS in the town he lives in.
You apparently don't know about this.If the Catholic high schools have such a huge recruitment advantage, how is it that the other Div I Catholic schools aren’t dominating the divisision? It would seem as though there should be, in many years, an all-Catholic final.
I guess there’s no need to consider the coaching ability of East’s head coach, Luke Reilly and the fact that the public schools have, in many cases, twice the enrollment ( East 650, Danbury 2,941, Trumbull 2,151, East Hartford 1,649, etc). It all comes down to unfair recruitment allegations —which are all they are!!
How are the divisions determined?
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They made little sense to me .
Shelton which was LL for football played Wamogo in Div 3 .
New Canaan and LL school in football is Div 4 the same Division as Ansonia.
Connecticut has gone mad
Also it seems Division 1 with a couple of exceptions was a Catholic school tourney
It almost looks like schools place themselves in the Division they want to play in.
yeah there are plenty of schools that cheat. Berlin got caught. Ansonia definitely has kids coming in from other towns. New London and Ledyard have always pulled kids from other schools. If the CIAC had any real oversight they'd put a stop to it. I don't see it changing any time soon, though.It’s not just New London either in the ECC, Ledyard also takes full advantage of the Vo-Ag program to bring kids in from nearby towns
Quite possibly because it doesn’t exist.You apparently don't know about this.
And the verified study that you conducted was......You apparently don't know about this.
When a school offers a VoAg program they can draw kids from other towns. Ledyard has such a programyeah there are plenty of schools that cheat. Berlin got caught. Ansonia definitely has kids coming in from other towns. New London and Ledyard have always pulled kids from other schools. If the CIAC had any real oversight they'd put a stop to it. I don't see it changing any time soon, though.
yeah but you're not allowed to recruit kids. and they do.When a school offers a VoAg program they can draw kids from other towns. Ledyard has such a program
Yep. Kenny Tinney lived in Seymour.Ansonia definitely has kids coming in from other towns.
OK. I am from eastern ct. Exactly what sports have they dominated in the ECC? if they recruit then they don't have an eye for talent.yeah but you're not allowed to recruit kids. and they do.
ledyard and new london both have a strong football history. both have been bad lately, but both have state championships and stretches of regular playoff appearancesOK. I am from eastern ct. Exactly what sports have they dominated in the ECC? if they recruit then they don't have an eye for talent.
Its common knowledge that Ansonia has kids from other towns, but I never knew Tinney lived in Seymour. That would have shifted the balance in the NVL if Tinney went to Seymour for 4 years.Yep. Kenny Tinney lived in Seymour.
Ledyard is looking into a coop in football with Montvilleledyard and new london both have a strong football history. both have been bad lately, but both have state championships and stretches of regular playoff appearances