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Jamar Summers

cohenzone said:
Yeah, Summers has been bad. But the bigger problem is that the pass defense scheme hasn’t changed since Holy Cross showed how easy it is to throw a pass in the flat and pick up minimum 8-15 years any time a team wants. And we don’t have a single playmaking linebacker.
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Scheme had nothing to do with Summers' allowing a Tulsa WR to get 10 yards behind him in a 6 point game. His attention to even the slightest detail is nonexistent
 
Jax Husky said:
Scheme had nothing to do with Summers' allowing a Tulsa WR to get 10 yards behind him in a 6 point game. His attention to even the slightest detail is nonexistent
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The pass defense has not been changed to deal with the short sideline pass. Otherwise known as an automatic first down on every third down. Summers isn’t the whole problem. And our linebackers rarely fill big holes or force wide plays inside or to be strung out.

Besides that, yesterday we had a lethal combo of Sherriffs not being very sharp and when he was, a lot of drops. Mizzou has a pretty good O, big and fast. The O didn’t do a good job of keeping them off the field. They were going to win anyway.
 
businesslawyer said:
I'm not saying he is playing well. He isn't. Just that -- putting discipline aside -- thinking we will be better by sitting him is dumb.
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Could we be worse? At least someone would get some playing time that might have a positive ROI some day.

Edit - guess I was 7th in on that point.
 
whaler11 said:
Could we be worse? At least someone would get some playing time that might have a positive ROI some day.

Edit - guess I was 7th in on that point.
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Sloppy 7ths
 
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jackl said:
Too bad Randy didn't do it earlier, Summers Disrespected UCONN and the game of football from the get go with his lack of coverage long before he intercepted and threw that ball at the Missouri player. Are the 40 times that much slower than everyone else. 1st game I have been to all year and I could have sworn that the DEBACLE was back on the sidelines screwing up the D. I was looking for the cranberry thin jeans. The game was just one BIG WTF. Thank God for a great tailgate meal.
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Jackl, no attack here at all. :) I see your avatar has you as a season ticket holder for 17 years. Your comment says this was the first game you attended this year. PLEASE P.M. me on how one has so much expendable income. Willing to take advice from any successful source, I thank you in advance.

businesslawyer said:
I'm not saying he is playing well. He isn't. Just that -- putting discipline aside -- thinking we will be better by sitting him is dumb.
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I get your point here Biz, but I also see that of the others. There is nothing he can do to make our season better than setting a good example for the underclassmen. That being said, putting discipline aside is NOT an option for Randy at this stage.
 
Skiblets said:
So a serious question. He was amazing a few years ago. Is he hurt? He's a shell of his former self
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During Summer's sophomore season I believe he had 9 interceptions. That's a high number. In college, I played cornerback so I always watch how guys play that position. During Summer's sophomore year, despite his 9 interceptions, he was consistently beaten by the offensive players. He seldom broke up a pass play. He usually hit the receiver just after the catch. Very seldom was the interception caused by his great play. It was usually caused by an overthrow, or under throw and he just happened to be there. The great interception he had against UCF that won the game for us was caused by a very off mis-throw by the quarterback. He just happened to be in the right spot. Throughout Summer's time here I have not been impressed with him as a cornerback. If you watch him this year its more of the same. Consistently getting beat.
 
I knew we’d be very thin depth wise in the secondary playing the 3-3-5 but I expected way better out of Jamar and Tre Bell. They have been pitiful.
 
Other schools set passing records against him. What more needs to be said? We can pin all those passing records over the past 2 years on him.
 
Summers rated very high after his sophomore year by PFF and had him rated second in the nation the last six games.
Now maybe he was overrated but many on here thought he would be an all conference player at worse and instead he has regressed last year with the Syracuse beating and never was himself after that. It happens and regretfully it happened to him. The one thing he can find right is get his degree as that is most important for his life going forward
 
Not saying I understand the dynamics of his performance and attitude, but thinking of 3 years of Diaco and then a half year of this defensive scheme would drive most players crazy. This defense gives up so much "territory" to the opponents offense that I can see how a DB would get upset. Everything is designed to make DB's look bad: no pass rush, LB's can not cover middle of field, zone gives sidelines up to receivers, DB's so far off receivers they can't recover to tackle.
I'm not buying that DB's are playing off receivers the way they are "CONTRARY TO DC COACHES INSTRUCTIONS". I would not like to go to practice or get beat up for 60 minutes if I really thought the defensive scheme being used was really stupid. Especially if the scheme was designed to hang the DB's out to get beat. Not saying there aren't "execution" issues, just that it's hard to play when the offensive set can easily overwhelm at the point of attack because a decent opposition OC/QB can see where UConn's defense is weak.
Remember this kid spent last 6 games of last year playing defense for a team that had given up and this year has spent 8 games playing for the worst defense in football. I'd have an attitude also, DL and LB's don't get hung out to dry like DB's do. I'll give him the "under 25 years old" and still immature semi-exemption.
 
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Doesn't WVU play this defense? They seem to do OK with it and they are nothing special, just a middle of the road Big 12 team.
 
SubZero said:
Doesn't WVU play this defense? They seem to do OK with it and they are nothing special, just a middle of the road Big 12 team.
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Nothing wrong the 3-3 per se if you have the right personnel, although I don't think it is ideal and has its own weaknesses like any alignment. You really need special LBs that can cover and can also play big inside because there is not enough upfront. I get pissed when they are putting a square peg through a round hole and the D shows little proficiency in basic skills that are not about speed or size just good football playing.
 
The first Mizzou TD was peak Jamar Summers. Lock almost hits him on the top of the helmet and he never once looked for the ball
 
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NavinRJohnson said:
At that point I was watching two co-eds make out. The guy then proceeded to drop the girl on her head. She fell backwards and hit her head on the bleachers.
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Section 106ish?? Saw them from above too, she clobbered that bleacher with her head, got up and shook it off. Alcohol at its best!
 
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