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I don't like our chances with anybody right now since the hami disaster . When talking to people I'm not getting much excitement around UConn. Top tier kids don't want to play in the AAC and I've heard a lot of negative around Ollie's coaching from a few sources. There is a lot of negative recruiting toward UConn

If Ollie can't get a guy like Jalen Carey or AJ Reeves, who the hell can he get? Not surprising the longer we stay in the AAC and the longer Ollie keeps flubbing around and not sending anybody in the NBA 1st round, the worst the situation will get. We definitely need Jalen Adams to be a 1st round pick and hopefully Amida makes an NBA roster as well. Is this and Donny Marshall's FOX tirade the harbinger for our transition to the new Big East. We should be working with Cinci on a package deal to the new Big East. That would make the Big East on par with the ACC and force ESPN and FOX in a bidding war for TV rights. We need to be proactive.

PS: UCONN Return to the BEAST
 
Any recruit who believe that is the type of idiot who deserves to end up with the slimeball salesman who in fact doesn't develop players but is great at slandering better coaches. I'm looking at you, Hamidou Diallo.
It needs to he fixed, if kids are believing it the impression needs to he changed.
 
Overreactions and assumptions are running rampant here. We've seen terrible coaches recruit very well for long periods of time, and KO is sill more accomplished than most coaches he's recruiting against. Diallo was a tough L, but I'm not worried about Ollie's recruiting.

He's actually coached very well over the last couple of months. UConn has been one of the best teams in the country out of time outs. If we make the tournament with this roster, he'll be getting a ton of praise, and we'll see the other side of the hyperbole. Last year's team ended up 26th in Kenpom's ratings. Ollie has plenty of ammunition to counter any recruits' doubts, and he's a very charismatic person. I'll believe that his recruiting is suffering when I see it.
 
I don't like our chances with anybody right now since the hami disaster . When talking to people I'm not getting much excitement around UConn. Top tier kids don't want to play in the AAC and I've heard a lot of negative around Ollie's coaching from a few sources. There is a lot of negative recruiting toward UConn

This is the problem with losing Diallo.

If we landed him, all of that talk goes away if kids see a top 10 stud commit.
 
I don't like our chances with anybody right now since the hami disaster . When talking to people I'm not getting much excitement around UConn. Top tier kids don't want to play in the AAC and I've heard a lot of negative around Ollie's coaching from a few sources. There is a lot of negative recruiting toward UConn
Well that's pretty depressing
 
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Facey is substantially better. Brimah has started to rebound better (6.1 rpg this year, vs 3.0 as a freshman and 4.4-4.6 as soph & junior).
Therein lies the problem, it took Facey over three seasons to discover his game and over three seasons for Brimah to start to learn how to rebound.
 
Mauconnfan - Make your case that our Bigs have developed the last few years.

Not on the staff Chief and I know you know enough basketball to see that. No one was making Brimah better, even now with better rebounding he does so many dumb things in a game. He should be a 15/12/4 guy and the fact he's not is all on him and his ability to learn the game. Same with Kentan but he did get it finally this year also, lights went off wasn't suddenly better coaching c'mon!
 
I don't like our chances with anybody right now since the hami disaster . When talking to people I'm not getting much excitement around UConn. Top tier kids don't want to play in the AAC and I've heard a lot of negative around Ollie's coaching from a few sources. There is a lot of negative recruiting toward UConn
@7774 What's your BS meter thinking about this right now? Made up?
 
I think some of the perceived shortcomings of KO in terms of developing Brimah and Facey can be placed on the players instead of Ollie. This isn't meant as a knock on their attitude or work ethic at all. Love both of them. But, both started playing basketball very late in their youth, and therefore didn't develop the good habits and instincts that come from playing in grade school and are conducive to improvement, and this is despite the immense physical gifts both guys have.

In no way am I trying to bash either player; I'm very thankful they've been Huskies. I love that they've both figured it out this year (especially Facey!). They contributed to the '14 title run, and they helped hold down the fort while we transitioned from the Kemba-Shabazz teams to what I hope is another run of excellence under Jalen-Gilbert-MAL. But, at the end of the day, for all the physical tools they had, and there are plenty, the cards were stacked against either one developing into an All-American type player.

I think a better test to Ollie's development may be Enoch. He's as we know super, super young, and again has a bevy of physical gifts that can make him a monster if he harnesses them with help from KO. He's also been playing basketball since he was a child, not when he outgrew soccer. The jury is still out, admittedly, but there are signs of positive developments in Enoch. I'd love to see him be a monster next year and put this narrative that Ollie can't develop bigs to rest (and because having a competent post player is the the only glaring hole in next year's unit).
 
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I think some of the perceived shortcomings of KO in terms of developing Brimah and Facey can be placed on the players instead of Ollie. This isn't meant as a knock on their attitude or work ethic at all. Love both of them. But, both started playing basketball very late in their youth, and therefore didn't develop the good habits and instincts that come from playing in grade school and are conducive to improvement, and this is despite the immense physical gifts both guys have.

In no way am I trying to bash either player; I'm very thankful they've been Huskies. I love that they've both figured it out this year (especially Facey!). They contributed to the '14 title run, and they helped hold down the fort while we transitioned from the Kemba-Shabazz teams to what I hope is another run of excellence under Jalen-Gilbert-MAL. But, at the end of the day, for all the physical tools they had, and there are plenty, the cards were stacked against either one developing into an All-American type player.

I think a better test to Ollie's development may be Enoch. He's as we know super, super young, and again has a bevy of physical gifts that can make him a monster if he harnesses them with help from KO. He's also been playing basketball since he was a child, not when he outgrew soccer. The jury is still out, admittedly, but there are signs of positive developments in Enoch. I'd love to see him be a monster next year and put this narrative that Ollie can't develop bigs to rest (and because having a competent post player is the the only glaring hole in next year's unit).
Steve started late as well. All three bigs were APR sanction recruits.
 
Therein lies the problem, it took Facey over three seasons to discover his game and over three seasons for Brimah to start to learn how to rebound.

Facey's problem was that as a sophomore he was used out of position and not as a 4 primarily, and as a jr. was behind Miller, who commanded 30+ mpg. He's finally gotten the playing time at his natural position.

Brimah has a limited ceiling because of poor hands and poor lower body strength. He's developed as much as he possibly could - he is what he is.
 
I think a better test to Ollie's development may be Enoch. He's as we know super, super young, and again has a bevy of physical gifts that can make him a monster if he harnesses them with help from KO. He's also been playing basketball since he was a child, not when he outgrew soccer.
As @fleudslipcon pointed out, he also came to the game late – he was 14 before he started playing organized hoops and getting any coaching.

I think Ollie's done a nice job developing the bigs thus far, but I also think he can improve. Hopefully we'll see that come to pass with Enoch having his breakout year as a junior rather than as a senior, but I'd certainly feel more comfortable about that timeline if we'd been able to redshirt him.
 
@7774 What's your BS meter thinking about this right now? Made up?

My thoughts are the same as they were 2 months ago, that everything I listed in this post is more important to recruits than conference.

Hamidou Diallo Graduates

What are your thoughts about us bringing in our best recruiting class in a decade this year while playing in the AAC, and another top 25 class next year?
 
As @fleudslipcon pointed out, he also came to the game late – he was 14 before he started playing organized hoops and getting any coaching.

I think Ollie's done a nice job developing the bigs thus far, but I also think he can improve. Hopefully we'll see that come to pass with Enoch having his breakout year as a junior rather than as a senior, but I'd certainly feel more comfortable about that timeline if we'd been able to redshirt him.

Not redshirting Facey was a mistake.

Not redshirting Enoch would have been a mistake until Brimah got hurt last year.
 
As @fleudslipcon pointed out, he also came to the game late – he was 14 before he started playing organized hoops and getting any coaching.

I think Ollie's done a nice job developing the bigs thus far, but I also think he can improve. Hopefully we'll see that come to pass with Enoch having his breakout year as a junior rather than as a senior, but I'd certainly feel more comfortable about that timeline if we'd been able to redshirt him.
That's true, I guess I misspoke in that I didn't specify that I meant he'd actually picked up a basketball before high school. I actually know the kid (also from Norwalk), and he was playing organized basketball when he was in elementary school, although, as you and fleudy both pointed out, he wasn't playing at a high level until his junior year of high school, when he was a key player on a very good NHS team. Then, Pangos, High Rise, and St. Thomas More.
 
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Turn things around and then Ollie can negative recruit against those guys, as in, come see me when you've played a day in the NBA (never mind 13 years) AND won a national championship.
 
Just passing on what i heard. Do not care if you call it BS or think it is made up.

I think its pretty safe to say that you have good sources and that your sources are being reactionary. I'm sure KO is being negatively recruited against and some of it may be valid but UCONN still has a helluva lot to sell. Picking up top 20 talent will be as big of a challenge as it always has been but I fully expect KO to continue to round up kids ranked between 30-100.
 
I think its pretty safe to say that you have good sources and that your sources are being reactionary. I'm sure KO is being negatively recruited against and some of it may be valid but UCONN still has a helluva lot to sell. Picking up top 20 talent will be as big of a challenge as it always has been but I fully expect KO to continue to round up kids ranked between 30-100.

All I am hearing from multi source is that uconn is being sold as a sinking ship and this season is hurting us big time.
 
All I am hearing from multi source is that uconn is being sold as a sinking ship and this season is hurting us big time.
Wouldn't be the first time this rhetoric was passed around on us as negative recruiting (see NCAA sanctions, JC Health, APR ban, etc)

If we had this season with a full roster I would be worried. 2 years removed from NC, anyone who thinks ship is sinking on the recruiting trail or otherwise can kick rocks
 
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