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You can get help from your teamates on D, especially in the paint, but putting the ball in the hoop five feet or less from the basket is all on you. Enoch could do that, get fouled AND usually hit ALL of his foul shots. Brimah didn't have a clue in that department, and HIS defense this year was just ok against lesser competition.
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No he could not; I've watched the video I made last week over and over again and he was abysmal at putting the ball in the hoop at point blank range. His FG% of 41% is reflective of that, which is terrible for a guy in the post.
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I think we all wanted to see those guys get good PT. Then, almost like a break, due to injuries we got a real long look at them. So did KO and the coaching staff. We will never know what KO did or did not say to them at the end. I think it is pretty clear that both are very deficient on defense. SE's overall deficiencies worse than VJ. They have to be all in on KO's agenda (D first) not some fantasy about a lottery pick with their offensive moves when they have such glaring faults. We don't know how much time and energy was spent on them in practice as well. Possible that the staff reached the conclusion that they cannot or will not cooperate with the progress that is expected. No one saying SE is a "bum"; just not progressing and/or not happy. Time to move
on for both and I wish them the best. Looking forward to the new recruits, injured returning and whoever else we may add. I like the fact that in another article I read today in the Courant Chillious referred to KO's boundless energy and his own ability to instill TOUGHNESS in developing players. Add recruiting to that and they will make a great coaching tandem.
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Enoch was like the backup quarterback when the starter is having trouble. Everyone loves him until he is actually in the game.
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He had the physique, but neither the intelligence, toughness, or skill. Hard to go 0 for 3, but he did it.
This should have been easy to foresee after he started the Wagner game like 0-7.
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Steve's dad made one statement to put his son in the best light. Ended comments after one statement. Accurate or not I would not lump him in with the way Vance Sr. has handled things.
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Not especially in the paint. Help comes FROM the paint when you get hedged or burned on the wings. If you need help inside, it generally occurs from a breakdown outside.
If you need help with no breakdown? You are a civ and it's layup city. You can't win without your posts being able to defend.
The only way I can think of to hide some of a bigs defensive deficiencies is the 2-3 zone.
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The thing about shakeups is that they're hard. And they require really tough choices.
I've been really critical of Ollie - but he replaced Miller with exactly the kind of guy he needed to. But now I think they really need to create a culture. Ollie's a wonderful motivational speech guy - but this team's lacked a calling card and a personality in recent years and to me that's just as important as bringing in talent and I think Chillious can help deliver that. Putting teams together is a complicated puzzle. And that starts with a framework for the kind of kid you want to get.
I've been really critical of Ollie - but he replaced Miller with exactly the kind of guy he needed to. But now I think they really need to create a culture. Ollie's a wonderful motivational speech guy - but this team's lacked a calling card and a personality in recent years and to me that's just as important as bringing in talent and I think Chillious can help deliver that. Putting teams together is a complicated puzzle. And that starts with a framework for the kind of kid you want to get.
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Ah crap, they got to you too?
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Really? I mean Steve didn't garner any consideration for the all-sophomore AAC team.
If its true as the helicopter stage parent asserts that conversations were had with Ollie about how he's using players and his offense that's quite an effort at retention. Its easy therefore cheap to say this, but each tweet or phone call to Calhoun results in a DNP for the player. Need to nip that in the bud.
I haven't read any of the Mr. Lonzo Ball stuff, but was he advising Steve Alford via the media or phone calls on how to run offense?
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My personal opinion is Vance would have contributed more than Steve next season based on the trajectory of the skills they demonstrated this season.
But two things made me suggest my conjectured opinion about who KO wanted to keep more. One is we're short on proven bigs and Steve was the most experienced player for that position.
And the second is that there were no indications of Steve being anything but a model student and a player who didn't make waves.
Now I'm not saying Vance did. But if Vance Sr. was causing problems then I'm sure KO felt it was in the best interest to cut the cord.
As far as Vance Sr's behavior there were many things people in the Boneyard stated regarding his Bell Sr. impersonation. Take anything you read with a grain of salt. But I felt there was a least some evidence to support it.
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I agree 100% on the last point, I follow twitter and there were some ridiculously meddling comments. However probably the players choice in each case and not Ollie cutting any cords. I do believe Ollie talked with a parent(s?) at various points during season. Hopefully learning and motivating factor on all points, don't want to be on such a low and desperate place to have to put up with that, nip it in bud next time, avoid kids that have helicopters constantly circling overhead.
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The more I read Jacobs, the more I realize Calhoun was right, he really has no knowledgeable sources.Don't be so needy, its more remarkably that 'yarders still read Jacobs than vice versa
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Enoch was a bigger loss IMO. We have guys that can replace Vance (Mal, Larrier, the other Freshman) - we don't have any 6-11 guy in shape with muscles and a decent offensive skill set.
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Short sighted only by those with an agenda for KO. No one in their right mind kisses any dads a** regarding how they will use their son or even if they are big in their plans. Your son hasn't improved in areas we've asked him too he might not pay as much as you like dad how do you like that? If dad says he disagrees then dad's an a**!!
Next who cares
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LOL - that's not what I am advocating. I think it was a dumb move playing Brimah over Enoch after the season was lost. I also think Steve would have easily stay if he had a little better positive guidance. True, having a position coach with two feet out the door did not help and ultimately that left Steve without someone who could encourage him after a disappointing season.
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After last season valuing defense over offense is not where we want to be. While neither was great our offense was light years behind our defense. Jackson could shoot and had good passing vision - Enoch was a good foul shooter late in the season and could catch and back a guy down.
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Disagree you try to win. I think everyone knows my opinion of AB yet he gave us the better chance to win like it or not. Steve has a long way to go and I hope he knows that otherwise he's in for a huge disappointment.
AB was the best 5 we had, and no one took it from him shame on them!
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You must almost enjoy watching the Knicks play. Though I do agree that the offensive system was terrible.
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With the right coaching Steve can be a very solid player.
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We're in agreement Chief. Positional need is sometimes more important than other factors.
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Connecticut Huskies 2016-17 Statistics - Team and Player Stats - Men's College Basketball - ESPN
Brimah averaged more points, rebounds, and blocks per minute. He also shot 57% from the field. Which is much, much better than Enoch's 41%. Enoch was only marginally better from the line 68% vs. 62%, but Brimah went to the foul line more often.
So basically, you're wrong on everything.
Speaking of wrong....
It's easy to sit on the outside (and you're on the outside) and say the season was lost. I wouldn't want a coach who benches the best players because he doesn't think he can win. Brimah deserved to play because he was better than Enoch, period. You're arguing for the same things that got Diaco fired.
I wouldn't want a coach that tells his seniors their last season isn't as important as the next season, so he's not going to bother trying to win games. It was bullsh it when Diaco did it in his first and third year, and it would have been bullsh it for Ollie to do it this year.
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Love that both those kids came to uconn.
Having said that, good luck fellas.
Steve was a very frustrating player to watch especially w his body. He can occasionally hit a 10 foot jumper so he has untapped potential? No, the kid doesn't have game right now. Constantly in foul trouble. Liability on defense. Poor finisher around basket.
Vance can shoot and occassionally make a straight line drive to basket. Although he would have improved here, he was a horrendous defender and terrible rebounder, and w a father like that it's better he transferred now rather than a year from now.
Having said that, good luck fellas.
Steve was a very frustrating player to watch especially w his body. He can occasionally hit a 10 foot jumper so he has untapped potential? No, the kid doesn't have game right now. Constantly in foul trouble. Liability on defense. Poor finisher around basket.
Vance can shoot and occassionally make a straight line drive to basket. Although he would have improved here, he was a horrendous defender and terrible rebounder, and w a father like that it's better he transferred now rather than a year from now.
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Wow. Watching that is humbling. I somehow deleted from my brain how bad he was defensively. I think we all forget he came to UConn as a project. Only rated in the top 100 for his potential. Everyone pegged him as a late bloomer, but watching his minutes from this year, I can understand why he did not see the floor more.
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Also, what a nice little negative recruiting pitch for other programs. "if you're better, you don't necessarily play. if the season isn't going well, worse players play to develop for future years. essentially, Ollie gives up on seasons."
The concept goes directly against everything the UCONN program stands for. You earn PT in practice.
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Don't make the mistake of extrapolating per minute statistics of someone who played very little, that's a mark of someone who doesn't understand the game. Brimah did not improve in 4 years and we had a losing record - time to go with someone who has some offensive potential per Chief and is a better rebounder. You can coach defense up.
1) 12 minutes per game is plenty of time to evaluate a performance.
2) there are a few reasons he only played 12 mpg (he's a defensive liability, and a poor finisher)
3) Enoch didn't improve in 2 years.
4) I know more about the game than you.
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