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Towney007 said:
I'm fine with him doing whatever. He's the best player on the team, but (and I hate being a negative nancy) - he's not a part of the next really great UConn team.

-He stays, we're probably playing post season hoops next year and the rebuild got quicker by a year or so. His stock would absolutely go up.

-He leaves, we're probably not that great, but have a shot if things break the right way. 3-4 year rebuild plan is still on track.

I'd LOVE to have him back. I think he makes a difference being back in the big and small picture. But him leaving is super far from the end of things. I guess that's what i'm trying to say.
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Hope JA is in a UConn uniform next season. No one knows for sure what his absence would mean short and long term but it would be within reason to suspect it would cause significant problems for Hurley next season and could negatively impact recruiting.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Hope JA is in a UConn uniform next season. No one knows for sure what his absence would mean short and long term but it would be within reason to suspect it would cause significant problems for Hurley next season and could negatively impact recruiting.
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Come on. You don't know what it means? Let me spell it out for you. Short term- it will no doubt hurt us on the court next year. Long term- it will have 0 impact Recruiting- certainly not a negative, and could actually be a positive for a possible reclassification.
 
AntG168 said:
That’s not the Kevin Ollie era, that’s just what that age group does lmbool
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I think Geno and CD take away the phones when it is work time. Also, players can't post on social media in season. Sounds like a good idea to me.
 
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djct1999 said:
Come on. You don't know what it means? Let me spell it out for you. Short term- it will no doubt hurt us on the court next year. Long term- it will have 0 impact Recruiting- certainly not a negative, and could actually be a positive for a possible reclassification.
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It's not crazy to think it would have a negative impact. If Jalen leaves I have a hard time seeing this team have a winning record. And recruiting to a team in the AAC coming off 3 straight losing seasons would be far from easy
 
navery12 said:
It's not crazy to think it would have a negative impact. If Jalen leaves I have a hard time seeing this team have a winning record. And recruiting to a team in the AAC coming off 3 straight losing seasons would be far from easy
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Its absolutely crazy. This is a new regime, a new era, and a new narrative. Whatever happens with the current roster and in many ways next year has nothing to do with what Coach Hurley will sell moving forward. Jalen Adams will have a direct impact on our W-L record but won't affect recruiting at all.
 
djct1999 said:
Its absolutely crazy. This is a new regime, a new era, and a new narrative. Whatever happens with the current roster and in many ways next year has nothing to do with what Coach Hurley will sell moving forward. Jalen Adams will have a direct impact on our W-L record but won't affect recruiting at all.
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Can't believe it would be huge but to say "not at all" is reaching. 3 awful seasons in a row, the first one under the new regime too (if indeed it is a losing season of course) no matter who's playing will be just more artillery for the negative sellers from our opponents. "The league isn't any good no matter who's coaching them.." will be the play. The affect on recruiting in that case would be on the Top players but I agree with you in regards to being able to recruit the lower Top 100's and above, they will still be selling the future of the brand returning. But I doubt the Top kids will take a chance if we have another 14-18 season. Just the way it is and the way they think these days.

I hope both Jalen and Christian return, I really don't need to suffer through another season where I don't even remember what day they're playing during the week. They can compete with these 2 and even give us a glimmer of hope with a new staff. They can't without them unless there is a surprise looming out there. I get there is a "plan" but the plan should be to win as many as they can while putting that plan together. I am sure it is and I highly doubt anyone is getting pushed out or at least hope not. Let's see what happens, lots of shuffling still I am sure.
 
djct1999 said:
Its absolutely crazy. This is a new regime, a new era, and a new narrative. Whatever happens with the current roster and in many ways next year has nothing to do with what Coach Hurley will sell moving forward. Jalen Adams will have a direct impact on our W-L record but won't affect recruiting at all.
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Not all of us are as convinced as you are that the narrative floating in our heads dictates the future.

Hypothetically, and to frame this hypothesis in terms you have used in the past, if Hurley is unable to work hard enough to keep two players who have bled blue and white, why should anyone be absolutely certain he can accomplish getting players who are neutral particularly if his first season in a high major program is a disaster?

An element of uncertainty is not unreasonable imo.
 
djct1999 said:
Its absolutely crazy. This is a new regime, a new era, and a new narrative. Whatever happens with the current roster and in many ways next year has nothing to do with what Coach Hurley will sell moving forward. Jalen Adams will have a direct impact on our W-L record but won't affect recruiting at all.
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It's crazy to us and everyone who follows UConn. We know Hurley can turn the program around and we'll be good again. But to think a 3rd straight losing season won't have an impact is crazy. Maybe Hurley is able to recruit through it but it's a hell of a lot easier to recruit a missing piece to a team showing promise
 
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Just a thought....

If JA like CV is declaring for the draft, Hurley may not be forcing them out but forcing them to stay by not releasing them to transfer and thereby forcing to make this choice. It could also could also be the reason there have been no other "transfer" requests.

Hurley is not obligated to grant a transfer request. FWIW
 
Like I said the day Hurley got hired, don’t really care who stays and goes from this abysmal roster. Vital & Adams can leave, not losing any sleep over it. Good luck to both of them if decide to stay in the NBA Draft.

#NewEra#HurleyEra
 
fleudslipcon said:
Not all of us are as convinced as you are that the narrative floating in our heads dictates the future.

Hypothetically, and to frame this hypothesis in terms you have used in the past, if Hurley is unable to work hard enough to keep two players who have bled blue and white, why should anyone be absolutely certain he can accomplish getting players who are neutral particularly if his first season in a high major program is a disaster?

An element of uncertainty is not unreasonable imo.
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It could have nothing to do with working hard. Hurley could simply be telling them some things are gonna be different. That could include less minutes and less shots, and those players may not be around for that.
 
njct18 said:
Just a thought....

If JA like CV is declaring for the draft, Hurley may not be forcing them out but forcing them to stay by not releasing them to transfer and thereby forcing to make this choice. It could also could also be the reason there have been no other "transfer" requests.

Hurley is not obligated to grant a transfer request. FWIW
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That's not what is happening.
 
njct18 said:
Just a thought....

If JA like CV is declaring for the draft, Hurley may not be forcing them out but forcing them to stay by not releasing them to transfer and thereby forcing to make this choice. It could also could also be the reason there have been no other "transfer" requests.

Hurley is not obligated to grant a transfer request. FWIW
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In a universe of every possibility this certainly is a possibility. I would think it is low on the probability scale. So I doubt it. If he did the resulting bad press would severely hurt his ability to get recruits.
 
njct18 said:
Just a thought....

If JA like CV is declaring for the draft, Hurley may not be forcing them out but forcing them to stay by not releasing them to transfer and thereby forcing to make this choice. It could also could also be the reason there have been no other "transfer" requests.

Hurley is not obligated to grant a transfer request. FWIW
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Don't like either look. Forcing to stay is just as bad as forcing to leave. Should have what is best for player in mind. I know we want to get back to winning but at what cost from an ethical standpoint.
 
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njct18 said:
Just a thought....

If JA like CV is declaring for the draft, Hurley may not be forcing them out but forcing them to stay by not releasing them to transfer and thereby forcing to make this choice. It could also could also be the reason there have been no other "transfer" requests.

Hurley is not obligated to grant a transfer request. FWIW
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I think if Hurley wasn't granting the transfer requests of multiple players, we would certainly be hearing about it on Twitter. At that point they would have nothing to lose, and there would be strength in numbers. I don't believe this is the case. It would also reflect very negatively on the coaching staff and Hurley is way too seasoned to allow something like that to negatively influence his future recruiting.
 
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noeynox said:
It could have nothing to do with working hard. Hurley could simply be telling them some things are gonna be different. That could include less minutes and less shots, and those players may not be around for that.
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I was making a hypothetical dig on someone who knows exactly how things will play out if JA leaves. Click the arrows to observe the full context of my conversation with duct.

I don’t for an instant believe Hurley is a slacker. But if CV and JA leave than opposing coaches will use their departure and a potential bad first season against him.
 
There are many ways to negatively recruit. I can assure the masses that blaming Hurley for KOs failures is not one of them. No one has any idea if Hurley will succeed, but the narrative has changed and it would take a few years of similar failure for it to impact the Hurley era. Whatever Jalen's decision is, whatever this team's record is next year won't impact our future. The clock starts ticking with the 2019 recruiting class and Hurleys W-L record from that point forward. To over react now is simply silly.
 
mauconnfan said:
Can't believe it would be huge but to say "not at all" is reaching. 3 awful seasons in a row, the first one under the new regime too (if indeed it is a losing season of course) no matter who's playing will be just more artillery for the negative sellers from our opponents. "The league isn't any good no matter who's coaching them.." will be the play. The affect on recruiting in that case would be on the Top players but I agree with you in regards to being able to recruit the lower Top 100's and above, they will still be selling the future of the brand returning. But I doubt the Top kids will take a chance if we have another 14-18 season. Just the way it is and the way they think these days.

I hope both Jalen and Christian return, I really don't need to suffer through another season where I don't even remember what day they're playing during the week. They can compete with these 2 and even give us a glimmer of hope with a new staff. They can't without them unless there is a surprise looming out there. I get there is a "plan" but the plan should be to win as many as they can while putting that plan together. I am sure it is and I highly doubt anyone is getting pushed out or at least hope not. Let's see what happens, lots of shuffling still I am sure.
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Coaches can say what they want. That is simply something very easy for Dan Hurley to dispute. Many people at many levels can and will vouch for Dan Hurley. He will get a pass next year and in some ways the gross failures of KO will actually buy him more time. I get this board is bi-polar but the truth remains with the current roster there isn't an immediate fix. Hurley is a great coach but not a magician and he will get these kids to play hard but the talent level is lacking and results may take some time.
 
djct1999 said:
There are many ways to negatively recruit. I can assure the masses that blaming Hurley for KOs failures is not one of them. No one has any idea if Hurley will succeed, but the narrative has changed and it would take a few years of similar failure for it to impact the Hurley era. Whatever Jalen's decision is, whatever this team's record is next year won't impact our future. The clock starts ticking with the 2019 recruiting class and Hurleys W-L record from that point forward. To over react now is simply silly.
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Now that you are reassuring the masses I feel a lot better. Does this include casual fans?

Call me silly but I’m not overreacting to events as opposed to posters who are so full of themselves they confuse discourse with parameters they feel the masses should follow.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
Now that you are reassuring the masses I feel a lot better. Does this include casual fans?

Call me silly but I’m not overreacting to events as opposed to posters who are so full of themselves they confuse discourse with parameters they feel the masses should follow.
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You are silly and I am happy to hear you are feeling better. Lets leave the discussion of who has a bigger ego for some other time.
 
So much idle speculation here and in the CV draft thread. We don’t know what is going on. Maybe both will be back. Jalen hasn’t even said he’s testing the draft. Maybe one will go, maybe both. We have no idea really. Maybe it’s the new level of discipline, or reduced minutes, or one of 1000 other things. Or maybe CV is being pushed out and JA is upset by that. Or not. Maybe Hurley is making room for a Lecque reclass, or maybe he has no backup and doesn’t want to lose either played.

It’s all just noise at this point. We can hope for the best, but I doubt we even know what the best result is here. I certainly hope Jalen is back. I hope CV is back, if he wants to buy in to the system. I hope Hurley has a plan if either or both leave.
 
I am not saying this is what is happening nor am I relaying an opinion on the matter. It is simply a fact. Nothing more:nothing less

Keep calm and move on if it hurts your feelings or makes you angry
 
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