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Ivy League Cancels Hoops Tournament

auror said:
The numbers are declining because they shut everything down.
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For some reason people don't seem to be aware that if you lived in the area around Wuhan you could barely leave your house for weeks.

Edit: in some areas it was as strict as only allowing one family member to leave every two days for essential goods only.
 
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No, I never get sick. I'm not worried about myself. I'm worried about others, our economy, the stock market, the tournament and our society in no particular order.
 
casual-yardin said:
I meant the flu numbers. Pretty sure 50k haven't died this season. I think that was around the number 3 years ago when it was really bad.
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The flu numbers are also pulled from the CDC site. As of 2/29/19:

www.cdc.gov

Preliminary In-Season 2021-2022 Flu Burden Estimates

CDC's weekly cumulative in-season estimates of flu cases, medical visits, hospitalizations and deaths in the United States.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
 
navery12 said:
It's astonishing how many people are using the excuse of I won't die from it when that completely ignores the number of vulnerable people you can effect
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This. It's like flu shots. People say "I don't get sick" without understanding that it's not about preventing them from getting sick. Its about the people that can't get the shot and are vulnerable. What's amazing is how many of these people there are. They are literally everywhere the past few days.
 
Leebo said:
For some reason people don't seem to be aware that if you lived in the area around Wuhan you could barely leave your house for weeks.

Edit: in some areas it was as strict as only allowing one family member to leave every two days for essential goods only.
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"it's coming"
 
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Greedo said:
I’m not but there are many people in my life that I care about that would fall into the at risk subset of the population. It’s a little callous to say welp I won’t die so who cares.
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Who the hell said that?

Why am I not hearing about the people this effects overwhelmingly more than anyone else? All I hear and read is everyone should bunker down, we're rationing TP, cancelling schools, cancelling sports, Martial Law in some areas.

Wouldn't it be far more helpful to communicate who is by far the most at risk and who is least at risk. Shouldn't things be designed to have the truly at risk of getting sick and dying seperated from the rest of the population for like 2 weeks/until we have a better handle on things.

Of course I don't want any older people with pulmonary disease to die. This has nothing to do with compassion. My dad died from idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis.
 
superjohn said:
Who the hell said that?

Why am I not hearing about the people this effects overwhelmingly more than anyone else? All I hear and read is everyone should bunker down, we're rationing TP, cancelling schools, cancelling sports, Martial Law in some areas.

Wouldn't it be far more helpful to communicate who is by far the most at risk and who is least at risk. Shouldn't things be designed to have the truly at risk of getting sick and dying seperated from the rest of the population for like 2 weeks/until we have a better handle on things.

Of course I don't want any older people with pulmonary disease to die. This has nothing to do with compassion. My dad died from idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis.
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Except for ages 0-9 the mortality rate for covid is at least double that of the flu across all age groups
Age of Coronavirus Deaths
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

AGE​
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases		DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old​
21.9%​
14.8%​
70-79 years old​
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8.0%​
60-69 years old​
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3.6%​
50-59 years old​
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1.3%​
40-49 years old​
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0.4%​
30-39 years old​
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0.2%​
20-29 years old​
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0.2%​
10-19 years old​
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0.2%​
0-9 years old
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no fatalities​
 
djct1999 said:
they should otherwise this all seems hypocritical.
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Maybe.
It could be overly cautious of the Ivy League,and impact all mber schools.
More may be revealed to confirm or contradict the wisdom of not playing.
It needn't be hypocrisy, though it's legitimate for you to raise the question, and hedge with the word "seem."

Fwiw, Yale School of Music today announced cancelation of all concerts, as well as on-campus Met Opera sattelite live broadcasts through April 19th, after earlier in the week canceling an Eastern seaboard tour of a choral group.
 
I would not have thought it possible, but i wonder if any team will decline an Ncaa tourney bid? Seems crazy, but this hysteria is out of control.
 
This is from a doctor in Italy:


“The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.
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“The boards with the names of the patients, of different colours depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.
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So have patience, too, that you cannot go to the theater, museums or gym. Try to have mercy on that myriad of older people you could exterminate.
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Yes, this sucks for everyone. Sucks for the kids who have tournaments. The kids who are finishing their semesters at school. It’s especially awful for people who cannot afford to miss work and will not have a paid leave.

But there is overwhelming evidence that this is a SERIOUS deal but that if we take it as such and take drastic action we can stop it from being so much worse.

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Hard to tell yet whether it's been overblown or not. Eventually we'll find out. Sure the media is all over this but look what's happening worldwide. China's been basically shut down for over a month. Italy just followed suit. This virus, unlike flu strains, has no vaccine as of now and seems to be much more potent. Is it worth risking lives just to keep the games going? This goes way beyond sports and the economic hit it would take. I have an elderly mother to be concerned about, as do many of us have loved ones who could be vulnerable to this outbreak.
 
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krinklecut said:
www.theatlantic.com

Cancel Everything

Social distancing is the only way to stop the coronavirus. We must start immediately.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

I found this to be very helpful in understanding why it's important to take action now.
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“Early guesstimates, made before data were widely available, suggested that the fatality rate for the coronavirus might wind up being about 1 percent. If that guess proves true, the coronavirus is 10 times as deadly as the flu.”

Seems legit
 
tykurez said:
This is from a doctor in Italy:







Yes, this sucks for everyone. Sucks for the kids who have tournaments. The kids who are finishing their semesters at school. It’s especially awful for people who cannot afford to miss work and will not have a paid leave.

But there is overwhelming evidence that this is a SERIOUS deal but that if we take it as such and take drastic action we can stop it from being so much worse.

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there is no disputing that. so then cancel the whole damn thing. if the ivy league finds it a risk to play its tournament, then surely its a risk to play in a 20k arena in some city. can yale really send its team to play a first round game in spokane wa? what would the backlash be if someone on the team contacted the virus while out there?
 
Marbles90 said:
And can someone explain to me the toilet paper thing? I mean, I guess I understand hand sanitizer selling out, but why toilet paper? I mean is it just a social media experiment just to see how much we can get people to panic?
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I don’t understand toilet paper anyway. It’s 2020. Bidets are available. We’re not savages. Who wants to smear stuff with paper?
 
Irony is young adults are least at risk of any serious complications. You’d think the Ivy League and their bastions I’d reason might apply logic instead of being consumed by hysterics. Play the damn games in closed facilities with limited attendees. Just beyond ridiculous
 
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BlueDogs said:
Irony is young adults are least at risk of any serious complications. You’d think the Ivy League and their bastions I’d reason might apply logic instead of being consumed by hysterics. Play the damn games in closed facilities with limited attendees. Just beyond ridiculous
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One more time. You can "carry" the virus for many days w/o showing any symptoms. We literally don't know who has it or doesn't. Your ignorance and arrogance is duly noted.
 
For those who are still in the "overreaction" group - Italy just published guidance to their hospitals for recommendation on allocation criteria. It is grave - doctors and nurses now have to start to determine who to treat and who to let die.

This is a country that just over a week ago had very few cases. If you think that can't happen here then you're being willfully ignorant.

In a context of grave shortage of medical resources, the allocation criteria need to guarantee that those patients with the highest chance of therapeutic success will retain access to intensive care.

It's a matter of giving priority to 'the highest hope of life and survival.'
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Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world. Many of them also don't regularly see their doctors.

We're far more like South Korea than Italy.
 
Dooooooomed said:
Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world. Many of them also don't regularly see their doctors.

We're far more like South Korea than Italy.
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You're superstitious enough to use "Dooooooomed" as your handle and you're minimizing a global pandemic that has brought several countries to their knees?
 
auror said:
You're superstitious enough to use "Dooooooomed" as your handle and you're minimizing a global pandemic that has brought several countries to their knees?
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Where did I minimize it? Are you having a panic-induced hallucination?
 
Dooooooomed said:
Where did I minimize it? Are you having a panic-induced hallucination?
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Maybe haha. The direct implication of your post is that we have less to worry about than Italy. Maybe you're right, maybe not. Our geographical footprint is nothing like Korea.

I was mostly trying to make a post/handle joke.
 
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Hey, it’s a really bad cold, so let’s ruin some kids possible only chance to be a part of a championship tournament. Oh, and let’s cost people a boatload of money and probably a lot of jobs. But it’s a really bad cold!
 
Chasm64 said:
Hey, it’s a really bad cold, so let’s ruin some kids possible only chance to be a part of a championship tournament. Oh, and let’s cost people a boatload of money and probably a lot of jobs. But it’s a really bad cold!
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How uninformed can you be?
 
RayRay19 said:
Too much money in the men's tourney to cancel or postpone it but there is a high probability it gets played with no fans.
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Doesn't that limit the money factor? Gonna be super weird to watch silent games
 
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