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Coach Flood said:
Well, you made the Fiesta Bowl as an 8-4 team so that's still not out of the realm of possibilities for this year. I would try to strive higher than an 8-4 team (hell, Rutgers was 9-3 last year and they were nothing to brag about).

2010 was the weakest the BigEast has been in quite some time.
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.....only an a**hole comes to a visiting board and posts like this knowing what this fan base is up against.....seriously, get a life......
 
uconndogs said:
No, I think he's a typical Rutger's poster the relishes Rival's recruiting rankings over winning championships. Which, if you are a Rutger's fan, pretty logical.....
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It's the only championship they know how to win.
 
ruskin said:
Between analyzing UConn's recruiting and researching the deep flaws in recruiting star system (hardly a reliable predictor of future NFL participation), maybe Flood can polish his conference championship trophies. Oh wait. .. .
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It's precisely because his trophy polishing responsibilities are so light that he has all that time to dedicate to analyzing UConn's recruiting.
 
If any of you heard the ex. Gov. Rowland's commentary on WTIC talk radio during the week he gave accolades to RE not just as a coach but as a teacher. John suggested he had many conversations with RE during his stay at UConn, and RE basically told him (my paraphrase) "Look.....I don't see my job as preparing the players for the NFL. More important to me is developing them to be better individuals who is leans how to develop teams player skills, get an education, get a degree, and be better prepared to contribute to a work force post UConn experience. Very few of the players we're bringing to UConn will have the skills to play at the next level"

Now I'm not criticizing RE for his approach because he "recognized and understood" that his players were not the most highly skilled BCS college level players (under the radar scenario) and did not give them false impressions of their athletic abilities. More importantly he emphasized preparing them for life after UConn, sans the NFL.

As a coach, I was not a huge RE fan ...... he did ok with what he had to start with, but was not going to get UConn to the next level. But as a person, I give him 5 *'s.

Last night there was a huge discrepancy in talent. Next week there will be even more. As much as we all wish the program to excel, no matter who the next coach is.......it may be a very prominent college coach (huge assumption), but the talent he is able to work with is not going to be much above the "rankings" of previous classes.

Yes , UConn may get a few kids as RE suggested, but you need a heck of a lot more to compete at the highest level of BCS play.
 
Coach Flood said:
Just some facts and food for thought since all of you are so eager to blame coach P for something he has no control over. Recruiting. With the terrible recruits that UCONN brought in over the last few years, don't you think the chickens are coming home to roost?

I posted this a few months ago only to be ridiculed for the truth. You cannot win games if you do not have talent. Period.

Rivals recruiting class rankings over last few years. SU and UCONN are identical hence their on field performance this year. Think about it.
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It's also not coach P's fault that there is no instate talent.
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Is this chart framed and mounted in that massive, empty trophy case of yours? You can stick it up next to that "we beat a ranked overrated team at home this one time a couple years ago and it happened to be on at a bunch of bars in NYC that night" article that you seem to be so fond of.
 
tduconn said:
If any of you heard the ex. Gov. Rowland's commentary on WTIC talk radio during the week he gave accolades to RE not just as a coach but as a teacher. John suggested he had many conversations with RE during his stay at UConn, and RE basically told him (my paraphrase) "Look.....I don't see my job as preparing the players for the NFL. More important to me is developing them to be better individuals who is leans how to develop teams player skills, get an education, get a degree, and be better prepared to contribute to a work force post UConn experience. Very few of the players we're bringing to UConn will have the skills to play at the next level"

Now I'm not criticizing RE for his approach because he "recognized and understood" that his players were not the most highly skilled BCS college level players (under the radar scenario) and did not give them false impressions of their athletic abilities. More importantly he emphasized preparing them for life after UConn, sans the NFL.

As a coach, I was not a huge RE fan ...... he did ok with what he had to start with, but was not going to get UConn to the next level. But as a person, I give him 5 's.

Last night there was a huge discrepancy in talent. Next week there will be even more. As much as we all wish the program to excel, no matter who the next coach is.......it may be a very prominent college coach (huge assumption), but the talent he is able to work with is not going to be much above the "rankings" of previous classes.

Yes , UConn may get a few kids as RE suggested, but you need a heck of a lot more to compete at the highest level of BCS play.
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I am not convinced by those words.
 
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Coach Flood said:
Well, you made the Fiesta Bowl as an 8-4 team so that's still not out of the realm of possibilities for this year. I would try to strive higher than an 8-4 team (hell, Rutgers was 9-3 last year and they were nothing to brag about).

2010 was the weakest the BigEast has been in quite some time.
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How was the Big East when Rutgers got to a BCS game?
 
HuskyNan said:
He's only allowed to recruit in Connecticut?
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He says this without realizing that Connecticut sends players to the NFL consistently. Per capita, it's only a tad behind New Jersey. That being said, New Jersey is picked over, while Conn. is still lightly recruited.
 
The talent level (in terms of incoming recruits) between class #30 and class #70 is almost equivalent. The question comes down to talent development, where our staff has failed miserably.
 
anyone that thinks rivals rankings translates into winning games is too ignorant to respond to. if we didn't have talent, why were 5 guys drafted into the NFL last year from a 5-7 team? they had talent, but lost due to incompetent coaching. if rivals rankings are so important, how come we have an OLine full of 3-4 star players that can't stop Towson, where in past years we had walk-ons and two star guys opening holes for over 2000 rushing yards per season?

let the Rutgers fans have their fun, this will probably be their last winning season ever, so let them have their fun.
 
Great job as usual mods. Please don't ban me for my sarcastic jab at your outstanding moderation of the BY.
 
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Coach Flood said:
Just some facts and food for thought since all of you are so eager to blame coach P for something he has no control over. Recruiting. With the terrible recruits that UCONN brought in over the last few years, don't you think the chickens are coming home to roost?

I posted this a few months ago only to be ridiculed for the truth. You cannot win games if you do not have talent. Period.

Rivals recruiting class rankings over last few years. SU and UCONN are identical hence their on field performance this year. Think about it.
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It's also not coach P's fault that there is no instate talent.
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This is BS, one level analysis.
 
My comment to the original poster:

BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
mattp said:
anyone that thinks rivals rankings translates into winning games is too ignorant to respond to.
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You have this backwards, and you can't use outliers like Texas this year or Boise or whatever to prove rankings dont matter. In general the teams that recruit in the top 25 year in and year our are the teams that make up the majority of the top 25. If you recruit in the 70s or 80s every year you are more likely to perform at that level.
 
Coach Flood said:
Just some facts and food for thought since all of you are so eager to blame coach P for something he has no control over. Recruiting. With the terrible recruits that UCONN brought in over the last few years, don't you think the chickens are coming home to roost?

I posted this a few months ago only to be ridiculed for the truth. You cannot win games if you do not have talent. Period.

Rivals recruiting class rankings over last few years. SU and UCONN are identical hence their on field performance this year. Think about it.
EAC6274B-36C0-472A-8590-85C09DBC8859-558-00000062B483078F_zps3d469d1d.jpg


It's also not coach P's fault that there is no instate talent.
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No, instate talent is correct. We don't need a 2 star CT recruit, we need to get the players from high school hotbeds. If USF (which has a club hockey team) got invited to join Hockey East, they aren't going to get HS hockey (yes, there are some HS that plays hockey) from Florida, they'll get recruits from MI, WI, MN, MA, VT, ME and Canada (along with CT).

We need to get an assistant coach from an SEC school and hire him -- TOMORROW!!
 
dmjt4160 said:
You have this backwards, and you can't use outliers like Texas this year or Boise or whatever to prove rankings dont matter. In general the teams that recruit in the top 25 year in and year our are the teams that make up the majority of the top 25. If you recruit in the 70s or 80s every year you are more likely to perform at that level.
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We're talking about how UConn can improve its team.

When you are battling for 2 and 3 stars as almost EVERY team in the old BE used to, the difference between being ranked 40 or 80 is practically meaningless. The analysts know very little about the quality of player at that level.

I've been looking at the recruiting classes from Connecticut over the last several years. The state is so underrecruited that 2 star players have a better chance of making the NFL than 4 and 5 star players. A higher % of 2 stars go (11-41) than 4 and 5 stars. This tells you a lot.
 
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I am not trying to have arguments here. I've said my piece which is my opinion....doesn't necessarily make me right or wrong. Some of you actually took your UCONN glasses off and see the point that I was trying to make.

I cannot wait to come up to Storrs this year. It should be a good game, especially so late in the season.
 
This is the RUTGERS argument now for 10 years. During Edsall's years, you never saw it on the field. PP is just not good here.
 
sportsart said:
Great job as usual mods. Please don't ban me for my sarcastic jab at your outstanding moderation of the BY.
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I remember when EagleAction banned everyone with the word Husky or UConn in their handle. I got banned and I probably made 2 posts over there that were not in any way insulting. You want to be on one of those boards that bans people just for being fans of other programs? I don't.

The Rutgers guy is a bit condescending but I don't see any flaming or bannable behavior. And the stuff said by UConn fans about UConn has been far worse than what the RU guy said.
 
Coach Flood said:
Just some facts and food for thought since all of you are so eager to blame coach P for something he has no control over. Recruiting. With the terrible recruits that UCONN brought in over the last few years, don't you think the chickens are coming home to roost?

I posted this a few months ago only to be ridiculed for the truth. You cannot win games if you do not have talent. Period.
You are an idiot.
Rivals recruiting class rankings over last few years. SU and UCONN are identical hence their on field performance this year. Think about it.
EAC6274B-36C0-472A-8590-85C09DBC8859-558-00000062B483078F_zps3d469d1d.jpg


It's also not coach P's fault that there is no instate talent.
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Coach Flood said:
I am not trying to have arguments here. I've said my piece which is my opinion....doesn't necessarily make me right or wrong. Some of you actually took your UCONN glasses off and see the point that I was trying to make.

I cannot wait to come up to Storrs this year. It should be a good game, especially so late in the season.
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You gave opinions, we gave you facts. now move along.
 
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Coach Flood said:
In the last 5 years, your best recruiting class has been 2013 which was all coach P.

What I am saying is that you have no instate talent.....NJ is locked up by Rutgers/PennState/Michigan/OhioSt.....NY pretty much belongs to an array of teams. You have no where to recruit. This is starting to show on the field. Hell, if you have great talent even you would be able to win a few games here and there. Look at coach Flood, he's a rookie and he's still winning games. It's probably not due to his coaching skill either.
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No one cares about whatever you have to say. Just go home.
 
HuskyNan said:
I remember when EagleAction banned everyone with the word Husky or UConn in their handle. I got banned and I probably made 2 posts over there that were not in any way insulting. You want to be on one of those boards that bans people just for being fans of other programs? I don't.

The Rutgers guy is a bit condescending but I don't see any flaming or bannable behavior. And the stuff said by UConn fans about UConn has been far worse than what the RU guy said.
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Might have something to do with some BY posters mentioning a certain someone and getting a long weekend off, over labor day weekend nonetheless. Nothing flaming nor bannable was said there either. No TOS violations, nada. Meanwhile these guys are able to come here and spew their trash. Their concern is not for UCONN football, it's trolling to work up a over worked fan base.

It is what it is though. It's your guys party.
 
As I've said in my OP...it's not the coaches but the lack of good recruits in the area. You can have Saban coaching these kids and you guys would still lose games.
 
Coach Flood said:
As I've said in my OP...it's not the coaches but the lack of good recruits in the area. You can have Saban coaching these kids and you guys would still lose games.
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It's ok, the Connecticut High School Football Coaches Association loved PP!
 
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