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Some think that UConn would not be able to successfully negotiate with the AAC a football-only deal like Navy. Is this really a longer shot than a P5 invite?
 
joober jones said:
Even now they're past their prime.
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Haha, yep. Still out of your league though, I'd guess.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Not directed at you @Walker11

You'd have to be brain dead to consider dropping to FCS. Who even comes up with this drivel?
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I haven't actually read the article I just noticed it was based on the recent budget information.

I am in the camp of staying in the AAC until the next round. For now. Hoops in the Big East sure is tempting.
 
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whaler11 said:
That’s an accounting trick though. That’s revenue they could have used elsewhere, instead of more capital investment they can’t afford the upkeep on.
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No, it's targeted funds derived specifically from a class who derive a benefit from the capital outlay. That's just good planning. The argument that you could have levied tickets for, oh, I don't know, teachers salaries, is silly in that you can make it for any capital outlay.
 
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Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
C'mon, enough of the reasonable common sense. Undeniably, W crew, M&W cross country, M&W track & field, M&W tennis, M&W swimming/diving, women's volleyball, softball, field hockey, and W lacrosse generate the lion's share of UConn athletics' royalty, licensing, advertising, and sponsorship revenues. ;)
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They need to keep women’s crew for title ix purposes.

Just like kansas st does...
 
huskyrob1 said:
Spring football workouts ought to be starting in a few weeks. I for one am looking forward to it. Are you saying Dunn deserves another $150,000 raise next year too? It was a noble gesture by a guy who believes in this university and is trying to make up for what he did seven years ago.
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good friend
 
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Walker11 said:
I haven't actually read the article I just noticed it was based on the recent budget information.

I am in the camp of staying in the AAC until the next round. For now. Hoops in the Big East sure is tempting.
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The author makes valid points on the grim financial situation the school is in.

But to suggest that dropping down to FCS, which simply eliminates maybe 20 scholarships, is some sort of financial windfall is idiotic.

The guy even goes on to say that dropping to FCS would increase ticket sales. Because as we know, if people aren't showing up for USF and Cincinnati they are going to be doing to see New Hampshire.

To me, the play is this:

1) Stick it out with the AAC as long as we can by cutting funding to everything besides football and men's basketball.

2) When were officially shot, hopefully hoops has returned to respectability (tournament team most years) and then make a pitch to the ACC as a hoop only program and drop football.

3) Same as #2 except substitute the Big East in lieu of the ACC.
 
Zissou said:
In the Big East the tv cash for basketball will be similar to the AAC cash for football. The Big East can be a more fiscally responsible permanent spot, or it can be a more fiscally responsible holding spot while dreaming of a P5 invite.

The AAC puts about 90% value on football. Join the Big East and try to negotiate keeping football in the American. The American wants the football more than anything else anyway. Double dip both conferences.

In the Big East regional rivals return and travel decreases for all non rev sports plus hoops.

If the American “football only” deal can’t be negotiated successfully, like the Navy model, then the back-up is going Indy in football and cutting some costs. Cut back to MAC level costs and play Indy. It really should not diminish the chances of a P5 invite. You may end up with a better schedule.

As a side note, make the Big East deal contingent on a FS1 renewal for more $$$. Use the change in conferences as a rightful requirement to have a TV deal in place. IMHO, UConn hoops brings added value for the NE and NYC. (Much more than football can).

I’d welcome UConn home with open arms.
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This is honestly - the answer I think. But who knows how that goes, it'd be kind of a bizarre negotiation.

We bring *nothing* to the table in terms of football for them; but on the flip side I mean - look at our budget for one and two - they've been letting people have one foot in, one foot out already (Navy, Wichita). Why not us? And they def. can't afford to lose membership of any kind. Flip side is - we do that and what does everyone else try to do?

I think ultimately, that's the best fit for everyone. I just don't know how that'd work.
 
I'm just glad my brother and I decided to go to UCONN's last final four. It was our 4th time going to it together(we only missed 1999 when I just had moved to the ATL). Logistically it can be a pain since he lives in Oakland and I'm in Atlanta. We still made it work after he had just got married and spent a lot of money for his wedding. I'm so glad I was able to convince him to do it as we both thought this could be our last chance due to conference realignment and how UCONN fit into it.
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Louisville to the ACC over us continues to be the darkest thing to ever happen to this university. Brutal. It hurts me to watch ACC games now. We should be there.
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I barely watch any ACC. Hurts too much. Everytime I read about them and prostitutes and cheating and screwing over the city of Louisville by fudging numbers I realize how bad our leadership was at the helm went that all went down. Got their lunch eaten really.
 
All of this suggests that AD David Benedict needs to be on the hot seat. We were sold on him being a financial wizard who would shore up donations and get the budget right and his knowledge of building football culture. Neither of those have improved in his tenure.
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
All of this suggests that AD David Benedict needs to be on the hot seat. We were sold on him being a financial wizard who would shore up donations and get the budget right and his knowledge of building football culture. Neither of those have improved in his tenure
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Dude, we just got a DC from Bama's staff.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
All of this suggests that AD David Benedict needs to be on the hot seat. We were sold on him being a financial wizard who would shore up donations and get the budget right and his knowledge of building football culture. Neither of those have improved in his tenure.
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I guess that's kind of my thing. I mean we're all sitting here fighting over road maps and stuff.... and maybe this is kind of a waste of time - but I guess I ask it again:

Who on earth thought we'd run $80 million in revenue, who came up with these goals, projections, etc.? And how does that even get approved.

I know i'm asking a lot here - this is the BoT that just rammed that lousy hockey arena proposal through...

But how on Earth does that happen?


And I dunno - maybe it's just me - but I think humans are generally agreeable so long as they know and understand what's coming. If we have to run a $40 million budget, then hey - that's what we run. Might include cutting sports, might be used as a rallying call to say 'hey guys, this is where we need your help and why it's meaningful', etc. People actually take bad news fine so long as you don't surprise them. It's just bizarre how this school manages this kind of stuff.
 
Towney007 said:
I guess that's kind of my thing. I mean we're all sitting here fighting over road maps and stuff.... and maybe this is kind of a waste of time - but I guess I ask it again:

Who on earth thought we'd run $80 million in revenue, who came up with these goals, projections, etc.? And how does that even get approved.

I know i'm asking a lot here - this is the BoT that just rammed that lousy hockey arena proposal through...

But how on Earth does that happen?


And I dunno - maybe it's just me - but I think humans are generally agreeable so long as they know and understand what's coming. If we have to run a $40 million budget, then hey - that's what we run. Might include cutting sports, might be used as a rallying call to say 'hey guys, this is where we need your help and why it's meaningful', etc. People actually take bad news fine so long as you don't surprise them. It's just bizarre how this school manages this kind of stuff.
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Silver asked the right question. What was the plan - obviously they weren’t supposed to break even.

Nobody wanted to hear it but when they took upfront cash in the new IMG deal that was a flashing red light when you combined it with cancelling the spring game and how bad they are at things at the margin like publishing an accurate roster.
 
Towney007 said:
I guess that's kind of my thing. I mean we're all sitting here fighting over road maps and stuff.... and maybe this is kind of a waste of time - but I guess I ask it again:

Who on earth thought we'd run $80 million in revenue, who came up with these goals, projections, etc.? And how does that even get approved.

I know i'm asking a lot here - this is the BoT that just rammed that lousy hockey arena proposal through...

But how on Earth does that happen?


And I dunno - maybe it's just me - but I think humans are generally agreeable so long as they know and understand what's coming. If we have to run a $40 million budget, then hey - that's what we run. Might include cutting sports, might be used as a rallying call to say 'hey guys, this is where we need your help and why it's meaningful', etc. People actually take bad news fine so long as you don't surprise them. It's just bizarre how this school manages this kind of stuff.
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It's honestly criminal--especially the hockey arena part. Robbing the state while pinching pennies in revenue sports and pushing through a severely underdeveloped hockey arena plan. We're spending tens of millions of dollars and none of it is being spent well. There need to be serious conversations about the viability of spending over $50 mil on a hockey arena in the midst of this. Heck, even conversations on fielding a hockey team. We're in a budget crisis where we're wringing our hands over spending $100k extra to keep coordinators while simultaneously pushing through insane building plans. Something isn't right.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
One of the alumni just donated one million to football, with more coming. The wealthier UConn benefactors will not let the football program die, nor will the students and parents who gladly pay the AD fees. 40,000 freshman applications are denied every spring. They are beating down the door to get into Uconn. Kids want to go here, and as long as that continues the AD and football will be ok. Edsall has 3 or 4 years to succeed, after that it does get dicey if they don't at least get to some post season bowls. By then Hurely will have improved men's basketball and hopefully ticket sales. The one bright spot right now that worries me is Women's Basketball, Geno is just a few years from retirement, and once he does that bright spot goes away.
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More coming? Like 8 million a year? Enough where our HC doesn’t have to write checks for assistants. But yeah we need football as our front porch despite it being the worst front porch in the country.
 
The truth hurts. FB broke the athletic department. And they were so stupid they brought the main culprit back to finish the job.
 
Waquoit said:
The truth hurts. FB broke the athletic department. And they were so stupid they brought the main culprit back to finish the job.
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The ACC broke the athletic department. Obviously it was mismanaged on our part which has been discussed plenty here that also contributed but the football program was dead in 2013. The results of our slow death are literally shown on the field every week and in the budget every year but the diehards god bless em just want to Weekend at Bernie’s this program despite the warning signs.
 
Paesano said:
Just got back from Italy last week. I discussed college costs and differences in the university systems with my cousins. I have to admit, I think we should look at the costs of college sports across the board in this country. If, as a whole, college sports is a money loser, all schools should drop them and focus on academics. There are other ways to keep sports alive without college sports. Having said that, while college sports is still big and high visibility, you need to compete to stay relevant.
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Stepping back, education isn't even the primary goal of universities anymore. The entire purpose of most colleges is to make money.

Sports makes a lot of people a lot of money. If it costs the university as a whole, they don't care, as they're lining their pockets.
 
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