Is next season "our" time?

[ZooCougar]

He's out of date, out of touch, and watching this team is like experiencing Deja Vu because it is showing all of the same flaws that his later Syracuse teams showed.

Honestly, the worst thing that could happen to this program head coaching wise, would be if we somehow went 6-6, and got to a bowl. Because then Warde would have an excuse to not fire him.

We're never going to be stockpiling loads of blue chip talent, so we need the best state of the art coaches money can buy.

We don't need the '95 Lincoln Continental of Coaches.

You're not the first Boneyarder that has assumed I should be smarter, and I should let you know that my wife agrees with you.

Look, "the buck stops with PP", there is no doubt about it. But he's a defensive guy, and I am sure that he is going to cede the offensive direction to whom he believes are "the experts." The other problem is that PP saw the Wildcat work to perfection against Rutgers in 2011, and I'm sure he believed that it should always end up like that. He took the exception and made it the rule.

But the head coach is responsible for more than just the offensive philosophy. (he's also in charge of timeouts uggh!) But he believes in a high pressure defensive strategy as well, and nobody seems to credit him with helping to create a 180-degree reversal of the Edsall "bend, don't break" philosophy; a reversal that helped make us one of the top defenses in the country. Nobody seems to credit him with the highest rated recruiting class (on paper) that we have ever had here.

I don't want to turn this into a defense of Pasqualoni's job thread, because he clearly has some work to do. You don't get a visit from the AD about personnel if everything is going peachy. But there is light at the end of the tunnel, and I'm really looking forward to what Weist can bring to the table. If the light at the end of the tunnel goes dark, UConn will be moving on to a different tunnel...

 

[uconnflyer88]

Not my huskies?

You get to decide that?

I am not the only one pointing out that Pasqualoni is awful. I am just directly engaging suckers like you because you are 100% wrong.

What are you going to do when the opposite happens? Write an apology to the Boneyard for sticking up for Coach Blue?

Sounds like a great contest to me. Because there is no way this team will get to the BCS under Pasqualoni, much less get bowl eligible.

Yes, if you were a true blue husky fan, there wouldn't be so much hate for so long, yeah after the game/season some frustrated posts, but you get over it and realize that the last football season is over and there is a new one months away that we have no idea what could happen, so we as fans get excited....if you can't find ANY excitement in this team then yes I call into questions your fandom

I think we need to call in BL, but what would your definition of the opposite be?

I would most certainly take that bet to derail all the hate that is being spewed and get back to discussing the REAL issues with his football team if thats what it takes

"Sounds like a great contest to me. Because there is no way this team will get to the BCS under Pasqualoni, much less get bowl eligible"

....let's make a deal....

 

[UConnDan97]

Because there is no way this team will get to the BCS under Pasqualoni, much less get bowl eligible.

This is what I don't understand on this board from many of our members.

It's almost as if there are certain members of this board who are actively and vehemently rooting for UConn's demise. I just don't get it. It's so much easier to type that UConn sucks on the Cuse board or the RU board, because everyone will enjoy it and laugh. Why do it here? Do you really believe that there is "no way" that we get to a bowl game next year? If so, does that mean that you aren't going to watch the games? Because why would you watch the games if you truly believed there was "no way" we could win half of them? I swear, I just don't get it at all.

And let me preemptively strike against anyone's response that I need to "open my eyes" or I "don't live in reality." The reality is that there is no game on the schedule where we will be so outmatched as to not allow for our chance of winning the game. None. Not even Michigan. Louisville this year was likely better than Michigan. We will be underdogs for sure in some of these games, but we have a chance to win each and every one of them. Period.

 

[ZooCougar]

Oh blow it out your a-s-s.

Pardon me for being irritated that these guys took this thing backwards. That's undeniable. And no, don't give us that Desmond Conner song and dance that Edsall left a train wreck behind him. Absolutely nobody is buying that.

Yes, if you were a true blue husky fan, there wouldn't be so much hate for so long, yeah after the game/season some frustrated posts, but you get over it and realize that the last football season is over and there is a new one months away that we have no idea what could happen, so we as fans get excited....if you can't find ANY excitement in this team then yes I call into questions your fandom

I think we need to call in BL, but what would your definition of the opposite be?

I would most certainly take that bet to derail all the hate that is being spewed and get back to discussing the REAL issues with his football team if thats what it takes

"Sounds like a great contest to me. Because there is no way this team will get to the BCS under Pasqualoni, much less get bowl eligible"

....let's make a deal....

 

[ZooCougar]

Yes, if you were a true blue husky fan, there wouldn't be so much hate for so long, yeah after the game/season some frustrated posts, but you get over it and realize that the last football season is over and there is a new one months away that we have no idea what could happen, so we as fans get excited....if you can't find ANY excitement in this team then yes I call into questions your fandom

I think we need to call in BL, but what would your definition of the opposite be?

I would most certainly take that bet to derail all the hate that is being spewed and get back to discussing the REAL issues with his football team if thats what it takes

"Sounds like a great contest to me. Because there is no way this team will get to the BCS under Pasqualoni, much less get bowl eligible"

....let's make a deal....

I'll take that bet, but I won't change what I have to say between now and then regardless. Not apologizing for it, nope. You guys are the ones that should be apologizing to us when Pasqualoni sets the program back another year.

 

[UConnDan97]

I'll take that bet, but I won't change what I have to say between now and then regardless. Not apologizing for it, nope. You guys are the ones that should be apologizing to us when Pasqualoni sets the program back another year.

I apologize in advance to you, ZooCougar, for PP setting this program back another year.

There. Now that it's out of the way, we are all playing with "House Money", right? The fact that this year will suck is now a foregone conclusion, and anything good that comes of it will just be gravy on the mashed potatoes. Here's hoping that UConn can overcome all of the crap that we have surrounded ourselves with and through sheer dumb luck, we can hopefully get maybe a win or two.....maybe....

 

[ZooCougar]

Because 6-6 is not true success. Regardless of what you want to believe. We could back into a 6-6 season but that would just mask our problems.

I think that losing to USF, WMU and Temple like we did would open your eyes enough to see through the whole " there's nobody we can't beat argument".

Sorry, I'm not buying into Pasqualoni, he needs to do something pretty amazing to prove that we are wrong about him.

This is what I don't understand on this board from many of our members.

It's almost as if there are certain members of this board who are actively and vehemently rooting for UConn's demise. I just don't get it. It's so much easier to type that UConn sucks on the Cuse board or the RU board, because everyone will enjoy it and laugh. Why do it here? Do you really believe that there is "no way" that we get to a bowl game next year? If so, does that mean that you aren't going to watch the games? Because why would you watch the games if you truly believed there was "no way" we could win half of them? I swear, I just don't get it at all.

And let me preemptively strike against anyone's response that I need to "open my eyes" or I "don't live in reality." The reality is that there is no game on the schedule where we will be so outmatched as to not allow for our chance of winning the game. None. Not even Michigan. Louisville this year was likely better than Michigan. We will be underdogs for sure in some of these games, but we have a chance to win each and every one of them. Period.

 

[Srqhusky]

Where is the ring board. Or call it back alley

 

[UConnDan97]

Because 6-6 is not true success. Regardless of what you want to believe. We could back into a 6-6 season but that would just mask our problems.

I think that losing to USF, WMU and Temple like we did would open your eyes enough to see through the whole " there's nobody we can't beat argument".

Sorry, I'm not buying into Pasqualoni, he needs to do something pretty amazing to prove that we are wrong about him.

I'm not aiming for 6-6. I'm sure that PP is not aiming for 6-6. I think that 6-6 may not even be enough to change his fortunes, to be quite honest.

Also, losing to USF, WMU, and Temple does not change the statement of "there's nobody we can't beat." We beat Louisville, MD, and Pitt. I didn't say there was "nobody we could lose to." We don't have enough talent on this team to ever say that; the same with most teams in D1 football. Maybe Alabama can say that, and even then. And if Alabama was on the schedule, I would probably tell you that we might not even have a puncher's chance in that one. But on our current schedule, with our current team, there is nobody that we cannot beat. Nobody at all.

Here's hoping for 13-0.... (that one seems to tick Whaler off for some reason)

 

[uconnflyer88]

I'll take that bet, but I won't change what I have to say between now and then regardless. Not apologizing for it, nope. You guys are the ones that should be apologizing to us when Pasqualoni sets the program back another year.

Haha well that makes absolutely no sense because if he does go to a bowl this year then that would prove me and some others on this board (I don't know about all that other stuff about Des) right that all HCPP needed was a couple years to implement his system before he started to post winning seasons because this is college and not the NFL where you have guys that play in the system for 12 years

The deal would be that I would refrain from "defending our football teams head coach????" (If thats a crime) and you refrain from spewing hate about him (even though most of my "defending" stems from you spewing hate)

And then we would agree to just strictly talk about roster moves, recruits and players for the 2013 season until the season starts and then analyze each game was season gets going

But apparently we can't make a deal and you will keep driving people that want to discuss UConn football rationally away

 

[ZooCougar]

If we go 13-0 I will buy one of those scoreboard messages and "apologize" LOL.


I guess more of us prefer to be realistic and have more grounded expectations. Putting faith in this head coach is a complete waste.

I'm not aiming for 6-6. I'm sure that PP is not aiming for 6-6. I think that 6-6 may not even be enough to change his fortunes, to be quite honest.

Also, losing to USF, WMU, and Temple does not change the statement of "there's nobody we can't beat." We beat Louisville, MD, and Pitt. I didn't say there was "nobody we could lose to." We don't have enough talent on this team to ever say that; the same with most teams in D1 football. Maybe Alabama can say that, and even then. And if Alabama was on the schedule, I would probably tell you that we might not even have a puncher's chance in that one. But on our current schedule, with our current team, there is nobody that we cannot beat. Nobody at all.

Here's hoping for 13-0.... (that one seems to tick Whaler off for some reason)

 

[rich1122]

Alright Zoo, clearly you are firm in your position and refuse to even be open to other people's ideas (even if they are more logical)

It's getting kind of old, you coming into every thread and polluting it, taking away from what should be discussed

I want to know something, what will you do if my Huskies (they're not yours obviously), come into next year and win 8 games.....what will YOU do?

Hand write an apology letter to HCPP? To the boneyard?

You're clearly putting all of your chips in one basket......what if you're completely, 100% wrong and we go to the BCS....what then?

There was supposed to be a deal in there somewhere that since you never have anything different to say that we on the board just assume your post in response to certain subjects so we don't actually have to read it, but that would never be able to be enforced

I totally agree. Continued pummeling of the coaches has turned into the "Hater Blog".

We have the coaches that we have. No amount complaining is going to change that of last season's results. It's over.

The reason the thread was started was to discuss the upcoming season.

Frustrating to see another post hijacked to diss the coaches.

 

[ZooCougar]

No bet then. When you lose a bunch of games like he did, then he gets a legion of critics and "haters". It was a mistake to hire him. We should broadcast the discontent as much as possible to assist in his departure.

And no, going 6-6 wouldn't prove much. I guess the bar for success is much lower for guys that are fans of this coach, because deep inside you know that you are dead wrong and that anything better than that is almost unattainable.

Haha well that makes absolutely no sense because if he does go to a bowl this year then that would prove me and some others on this board (I don't know about all that other stuff about Des) right that all HCPP needed was a couple years to implement his system before he started to post winning seasons because this is college and not the NFL where you have guys that play in the system for 12 years

The deal would be that I would refrain from "defending our football teams head coach????" (If thats a crime) and you refrain from spewing hate about him (even though most of my "defending" stems from you spewing hate)

And then we would agree to just strictly talk about roster moves, recruits and players for the 2013 season until the season starts and then analyze each game was season gets going

But apparently we can't make a deal and you will keep driving people that want to discuss UConn football rationally away

 

[UConnDan97]

If we go 13-0 I will buy one of those scoreboard messages and "apologize" LOL.


I guess more of us prefer to be realistic and have more grounded expectations. Putting faith in this head coach is a complete waste.

If we go 13-0, you will be posting that message on a new scoreboard because well be going to the B1G.

But seriously, the comment you made about being "realistic" is exactly what I hate about what some say on the board. Your expectation of us not achieving 6 wins is no more or less realistic than my expectation of us achieving more than 6. I would be more than happy to engage in thoughtful discussions about matchups versus specific teams, styles of play and formations, starting lineups, improvements at given positions, etc., that might be fun and interesting. But there is no such thing as being "realistic" before the games have been played.

If that were the case, then the "reality" of the Big East would have dictated that USF would have won at least three championships, because that's what the prognosticators have said in the past. How many do they have? How many times have they finished in the last two teams?

 

[uconnflyer88]

No bet then. When you lose a bunch of games like he did, then he gets a legion of critics and "haters". It was a mistake to hire him. We should broadcast the discontent as much as possible to assist in his departure.

And no, going 6-6 wouldn't prove much. I guess the bar for success is much lower for guys that are fans of this coach, because deep inside you know that you are dead wrong and that anything better than that is almost unattainable.

No dude, the idea that I buy into is that a ****COLLEGE**** coach deserves at least 3 years in a program before you can adequately analyze the job that he has done.

You can strum the "a good coach should be able to extract wins out of any talent", but that isn't necessarily the case when you want to institute a zone blocking scheme when you have OLinemen recruited to play in a downhill blocking scheme, so you need years to recruit OL who fit the zone blocking scheme, you don't revert back to the old scheme just because the guys you have now can't pick it up

You have to change at some point and expect to take your lickings (which is what we did last year), and this year I expect our OL to be 10 times better because they played a full season and two springs working on the zone scheme

Obviously 6-6 is not what we should be shooting for, but you weren't honestly expecting 8 or 9 wins the first two years were you? Because if you were then you're just as delusional as you think I am

Could we have gone 6-6 the past couple years? Of course....do I think the fact that we didn't is SOLELY on the coaches...absolutely not....Do you realize that HCPP has only been with the program for 24 months....24 MONTHS!!!

I fully expect this team to go 7-5 this year, HCPP has had time to implement his system and incorporate his recruits into the system....if we don't go bowling this year, he needs to go I will sing that tune with you

 

[Srqhusky]

Guys we have tremendous talent coming in. We aren't going 6-6 much longer

 

[ZooCougar]

Dude,

He may never again have a defense as talented as he did this year.

And he makes terrible decisions. Clock management both seasons has been atrocious, this another one of those things that really shouldn't be debatable at this point.

Using the stupid Wildcat every time the base offense was actually working, not taking a knee, good grief we could go on and on and on and on all day.

He's fracking terrible.

Not having the right offensive line talent didn't force him to make all of these bad decisions.

He's always going to be like that. Regardless of how many players he brings in. Which is why he should have cleaned out his office last month.

Pasqualoni is always going to be Pasqualoni, even if he brings in the best class we have ever had "on paper".

No dude, the idea that I buy into is that a ****COLLEGE**** coach deserves at least 3 years in a program before you can adequately analyze the job that he has done.

You can strum the "a good coach should be able to extract wins out of any talent", but that isn't necessarily the case when you want to institute a zone blocking scheme when you have OLinemen recruited to play in a downhill blocking scheme, so you need years to recruit OL who fit the zone blocking scheme, you don't revert back to the old scheme just because the guys you have now can't pick it up

You have to change at some point and expect to take your lickings (which is what we did last year), and this year I expect our OL to be 10 times better because they played a full season and two springs working on the zone scheme

Obviously 6-6 is not what we should be shooting for, but you weren't honestly expecting 8 or 9 wins the first two years were you? Because if you were then you're just as delusional as you think I am

Could we have gone 6-6 the past couple years? Of course....do I think the fact that we didn't is SOLELY on the coaches...absolutely not....Do you realize that HCPP has only been with the program for 24 months....24 MONTHS!!!

I fully expect this team to go 7-5 this year, HCPP has had time to implement his system and incorporate his recruits into the system....if we don't go bowling this year, he needs to go I will sing that tune with you

 

[uconnflyer88]

Dude,

He may never again have a defense as talented as he did this year.

And he makes terrible decisions. Clock management both seasons has been atrocious, this another one of those things that really shouldn't be debatable at this point.

Using the stupid Wildcat every time the base offense was actually working, not taking a knee, good grief we could go on and on and on and on all day.

He's fracking terrible.

Not having the right offensive line talent didn't force him to make all of these bad decisions.

He's always going to be like that. Regardless of how many players he brings in. Which is why he should have cleaned out his office last month.

Pasqualoni is always going to be Pasqualoni, even if he brings in the best class we have ever had "on paper".

This bickering is futile, I have my view on things and you obviously have yours and no one knows who is right until about October

It just bothers me that we waste so many posts on how much HCPP and GDL suck when its been established....so why beat a dead horse?

We could/should be discussing the roster for next year, the great recruiting class coming in and the coaching moves

BTW, I disagree about the defense....i think it will be even better this year, Don Brown left, but that doesn't mean the scheme has to change...I think the LBs will be better, D-Line will be better because of all the experience that was gained last year......all members return at Safety...CBs, Williams probably could have played as a true freshman but we had obviously two great seniors at the position, and stephenson sounds like he is got great potential

I'm expecting more production out of the defense this year that we really didn't see last year (production meaning turnovers)

 

[huskymedic]

This bickering is futile, I have my view on things and you obviously have yours and no one knows who is right until about October

It just bothers me that we waste so many posts on how much HCPP and GDL suck when its been established....so why beat a dead horse?

We could/should be discussing the roster for next year, the great recruiting class coming in and the coaching moves

BTW, I disagree about the defense....i think it will be even better this year, Don Brown left, but that doesn't mean the scheme has to change...I think the LBs will be better, D-Line will be better because of all the experience that was gained last year......all members return at Safety...CBs, Williams probably could have played as a true freshman but we had obviously two great seniors at the position, and stephenson sounds like he is got great potential

I'm expecting more production out of the defense this year that we really didn't see last year (production meaning turnovers)

You need to think of Zoo like your wife... just let him have the last word as painful as it is.

 

[rich1122]

Dude,

He may never again have a defense as talented as he did this year.

And he makes terrible decisions. Clock management both seasons has been atrocious, this another one of those things that really shouldn't be debatable at this point.

Using the stupid Wildcat every time the base offense was actually working, not taking a knee, good grief we could go on and on and on and on all day.

He's fracking terrible.

Not having the right offensive line talent didn't force him to make all of these bad decisions.

He's always going to be like that. Regardless of how many players he brings in. Which is why he should have cleaned out his office last month.

Pasqualoni is always going to be Pasqualoni, even if he brings in the best class we have ever had "on paper".

Yes and you get $1.5 million because you know what you are talking about. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

 

[uconnflyer88]

You need to think of Zoo like your wife... just let him have the last word as painful as it is.

Haha yeah I see its all good I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion....its just we know what his opinion is, no need for it to be shoved in our face over and over again

 

[ZooCougar]

Yes and you get $1.5 million because you know what you are talking about. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Yeah, he tricked Hathaway into paying him 1.5 million of UConn's money and the best he can give us is two losses to WMU, the worst offense in FBS, an it took him two seasons to win two games in a row.

That's pretty funny!

 

[UConnDan97]

Yes and you get $1.5 million because you know what you are talking about. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

This immediately reminded me of the following clip:

 

[ZooCougar]

Haha yeah I see its all good I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion....its just we know what his opinion is, no need for it to be shoved in our face over and over again

And we know what you, SDHusky, Medic, Dan, Rich and the other Pasqualoni apologists think.

And every time you guys make your attempts to rehab his efforts here, someone will be there call you on it.

 

[UConnDan97]

And we know what you, SDHusky, Medic, Dan, Rich and the other Pasqualoni apologists think.

And every time you guys make your attempts to rehab his efforts here, someone will be there call you on it.

But the difference is that I'm doing it on a thread titled, "Is next season 'our' time?" I'm going to say, "yes", and I'm willing to list the reasons why. I'll mark you down as a "no"...