Is next season "our" time?

[ZooCougar]

If we go 13-0 I will buy one of those scoreboard messages and "apologize" LOL.


I guess more of us prefer to be realistic and have more grounded expectations. Putting faith in this head coach is a complete waste.

I'm not aiming for 6-6. I'm sure that PP is not aiming for 6-6. I think that 6-6 may not even be enough to change his fortunes, to be quite honest.

Also, losing to USF, WMU, and Temple does not change the statement of "there's nobody we can't beat." We beat Louisville, MD, and Pitt. I didn't say there was "nobody we could lose to." We don't have enough talent on this team to ever say that; the same with most teams in D1 football. Maybe Alabama can say that, and even then. And if Alabama was on the schedule, I would probably tell you that we might not even have a puncher's chance in that one. But on our current schedule, with our current team, there is nobody that we cannot beat. Nobody at all.

Here's hoping for 13-0.... (that one seems to tick Whaler off for some reason)

 

[rich1122]

Alright Zoo, clearly you are firm in your position and refuse to even be open to other people's ideas (even if they are more logical)

It's getting kind of old, you coming into every thread and polluting it, taking away from what should be discussed

I want to know something, what will you do if my Huskies (they're not yours obviously), come into next year and win 8 games.....what will YOU do?

Hand write an apology letter to HCPP? To the boneyard?

You're clearly putting all of your chips in one basket......what if you're completely, 100% wrong and we go to the BCS....what then?

There was supposed to be a deal in there somewhere that since you never have anything different to say that we on the board just assume your post in response to certain subjects so we don't actually have to read it, but that would never be able to be enforced

I totally agree. Continued pummeling of the coaches has turned into the "Hater Blog".

We have the coaches that we have. No amount complaining is going to change that of last season's results. It's over.

The reason the thread was started was to discuss the upcoming season.

Frustrating to see another post hijacked to diss the coaches.

 

[ZooCougar]

No bet then. When you lose a bunch of games like he did, then he gets a legion of critics and "haters". It was a mistake to hire him. We should broadcast the discontent as much as possible to assist in his departure.

And no, going 6-6 wouldn't prove much. I guess the bar for success is much lower for guys that are fans of this coach, because deep inside you know that you are dead wrong and that anything better than that is almost unattainable.

Haha well that makes absolutely no sense because if he does go to a bowl this year then that would prove me and some others on this board (I don't know about all that other stuff about Des) right that all HCPP needed was a couple years to implement his system before he started to post winning seasons because this is college and not the NFL where you have guys that play in the system for 12 years

The deal would be that I would refrain from "defending our football teams head coach????" (If thats a crime) and you refrain from spewing hate about him (even though most of my "defending" stems from you spewing hate)

And then we would agree to just strictly talk about roster moves, recruits and players for the 2013 season until the season starts and then analyze each game was season gets going

But apparently we can't make a deal and you will keep driving people that want to discuss UConn football rationally away

 

[UConnDan97]

If we go 13-0 I will buy one of those scoreboard messages and "apologize" LOL.


I guess more of us prefer to be realistic and have more grounded expectations. Putting faith in this head coach is a complete waste.

If we go 13-0, you will be posting that message on a new scoreboard because well be going to the B1G.

But seriously, the comment you made about being "realistic" is exactly what I hate about what some say on the board. Your expectation of us not achieving 6 wins is no more or less realistic than my expectation of us achieving more than 6. I would be more than happy to engage in thoughtful discussions about matchups versus specific teams, styles of play and formations, starting lineups, improvements at given positions, etc., that might be fun and interesting. But there is no such thing as being "realistic" before the games have been played.

If that were the case, then the "reality" of the Big East would have dictated that USF would have won at least three championships, because that's what the prognosticators have said in the past. How many do they have? How many times have they finished in the last two teams?

 

[uconnflyer88]

No bet then. When you lose a bunch of games like he did, then he gets a legion of critics and "haters". It was a mistake to hire him. We should broadcast the discontent as much as possible to assist in his departure.

And no, going 6-6 wouldn't prove much. I guess the bar for success is much lower for guys that are fans of this coach, because deep inside you know that you are dead wrong and that anything better than that is almost unattainable.

No dude, the idea that I buy into is that a ****COLLEGE**** coach deserves at least 3 years in a program before you can adequately analyze the job that he has done.

You can strum the "a good coach should be able to extract wins out of any talent", but that isn't necessarily the case when you want to institute a zone blocking scheme when you have OLinemen recruited to play in a downhill blocking scheme, so you need years to recruit OL who fit the zone blocking scheme, you don't revert back to the old scheme just because the guys you have now can't pick it up

You have to change at some point and expect to take your lickings (which is what we did last year), and this year I expect our OL to be 10 times better because they played a full season and two springs working on the zone scheme

Obviously 6-6 is not what we should be shooting for, but you weren't honestly expecting 8 or 9 wins the first two years were you? Because if you were then you're just as delusional as you think I am

Could we have gone 6-6 the past couple years? Of course....do I think the fact that we didn't is SOLELY on the coaches...absolutely not....Do you realize that HCPP has only been with the program for 24 months....24 MONTHS!!!

I fully expect this team to go 7-5 this year, HCPP has had time to implement his system and incorporate his recruits into the system....if we don't go bowling this year, he needs to go I will sing that tune with you

 

[Srqhusky]

Guys we have tremendous talent coming in. We aren't going 6-6 much longer

 

[ZooCougar]

Dude,

He may never again have a defense as talented as he did this year.

And he makes terrible decisions. Clock management both seasons has been atrocious, this another one of those things that really shouldn't be debatable at this point.

Using the stupid Wildcat every time the base offense was actually working, not taking a knee, good grief we could go on and on and on and on all day.

He's fracking terrible.

Not having the right offensive line talent didn't force him to make all of these bad decisions.

He's always going to be like that. Regardless of how many players he brings in. Which is why he should have cleaned out his office last month.

Pasqualoni is always going to be Pasqualoni, even if he brings in the best class we have ever had "on paper".

No dude, the idea that I buy into is that a ****COLLEGE**** coach deserves at least 3 years in a program before you can adequately analyze the job that he has done.

You can strum the "a good coach should be able to extract wins out of any talent", but that isn't necessarily the case when you want to institute a zone blocking scheme when you have OLinemen recruited to play in a downhill blocking scheme, so you need years to recruit OL who fit the zone blocking scheme, you don't revert back to the old scheme just because the guys you have now can't pick it up

You have to change at some point and expect to take your lickings (which is what we did last year), and this year I expect our OL to be 10 times better because they played a full season and two springs working on the zone scheme

Obviously 6-6 is not what we should be shooting for, but you weren't honestly expecting 8 or 9 wins the first two years were you? Because if you were then you're just as delusional as you think I am

Could we have gone 6-6 the past couple years? Of course....do I think the fact that we didn't is SOLELY on the coaches...absolutely not....Do you realize that HCPP has only been with the program for 24 months....24 MONTHS!!!

I fully expect this team to go 7-5 this year, HCPP has had time to implement his system and incorporate his recruits into the system....if we don't go bowling this year, he needs to go I will sing that tune with you

 

[uconnflyer88]

Dude,

He may never again have a defense as talented as he did this year.

And he makes terrible decisions. Clock management both seasons has been atrocious, this another one of those things that really shouldn't be debatable at this point.

Using the stupid Wildcat every time the base offense was actually working, not taking a knee, good grief we could go on and on and on and on all day.

He's fracking terrible.

Not having the right offensive line talent didn't force him to make all of these bad decisions.

He's always going to be like that. Regardless of how many players he brings in. Which is why he should have cleaned out his office last month.

Pasqualoni is always going to be Pasqualoni, even if he brings in the best class we have ever had "on paper".

This bickering is futile, I have my view on things and you obviously have yours and no one knows who is right until about October

It just bothers me that we waste so many posts on how much HCPP and GDL suck when its been established....so why beat a dead horse?

We could/should be discussing the roster for next year, the great recruiting class coming in and the coaching moves

BTW, I disagree about the defense....i think it will be even better this year, Don Brown left, but that doesn't mean the scheme has to change...I think the LBs will be better, D-Line will be better because of all the experience that was gained last year......all members return at Safety...CBs, Williams probably could have played as a true freshman but we had obviously two great seniors at the position, and stephenson sounds like he is got great potential

I'm expecting more production out of the defense this year that we really didn't see last year (production meaning turnovers)

 

[huskymedic]

This bickering is futile, I have my view on things and you obviously have yours and no one knows who is right until about October

It just bothers me that we waste so many posts on how much HCPP and GDL suck when its been established....so why beat a dead horse?

We could/should be discussing the roster for next year, the great recruiting class coming in and the coaching moves

BTW, I disagree about the defense....i think it will be even better this year, Don Brown left, but that doesn't mean the scheme has to change...I think the LBs will be better, D-Line will be better because of all the experience that was gained last year......all members return at Safety...CBs, Williams probably could have played as a true freshman but we had obviously two great seniors at the position, and stephenson sounds like he is got great potential

I'm expecting more production out of the defense this year that we really didn't see last year (production meaning turnovers)

You need to think of Zoo like your wife... just let him have the last word as painful as it is.

 

[rich1122]

Dude,

He may never again have a defense as talented as he did this year.

And he makes terrible decisions. Clock management both seasons has been atrocious, this another one of those things that really shouldn't be debatable at this point.

Using the stupid Wildcat every time the base offense was actually working, not taking a knee, good grief we could go on and on and on and on all day.

He's fracking terrible.

Not having the right offensive line talent didn't force him to make all of these bad decisions.

He's always going to be like that. Regardless of how many players he brings in. Which is why he should have cleaned out his office last month.

Pasqualoni is always going to be Pasqualoni, even if he brings in the best class we have ever had "on paper".

Yes and you get $1.5 million because you know what you are talking about. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

 

[uconnflyer88]

You need to think of Zoo like your wife... just let him have the last word as painful as it is.

Haha yeah I see its all good I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion....its just we know what his opinion is, no need for it to be shoved in our face over and over again

 

[ZooCougar]

Yes and you get $1.5 million because you know what you are talking about. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Yeah, he tricked Hathaway into paying him 1.5 million of UConn's money and the best he can give us is two losses to WMU, the worst offense in FBS, an it took him two seasons to win two games in a row.

That's pretty funny!

 

[UConnDan97]

Yes and you get $1.5 million because you know what you are talking about. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

This immediately reminded me of the following clip:

 

[ZooCougar]

Haha yeah I see its all good I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion....its just we know what his opinion is, no need for it to be shoved in our face over and over again

And we know what you, SDHusky, Medic, Dan, Rich and the other Pasqualoni apologists think.

And every time you guys make your attempts to rehab his efforts here, someone will be there call you on it.

 

[UConnDan97]

And we know what you, SDHusky, Medic, Dan, Rich and the other Pasqualoni apologists think.

And every time you guys make your attempts to rehab his efforts here, someone will be there call you on it.

But the difference is that I'm doing it on a thread titled, "Is next season 'our' time?" I'm going to say, "yes", and I'm willing to list the reasons why. I'll mark you down as a "no"...

 

[rich1122]

And we know what you, SDHusky, Medic, Dan, Rich and the other Pasqualoni apologists think.

And every time you guys make your attempts to rehab his efforts here, someone will be there call you on it.

Not apologist. Not happy either. Just want you to stop hijacking posts with the idiotic fire the coaches stuff. Enough is enough. Don't act like a big baby.

 

[Srqhusky]

Zoo take off your HFD edition sunglasses and enjoy see some of the good that's going in. We have a great recruiting class. Stellar defense , and we r passing better than before. Come along with us for the ride to the top

 

[rich1122]

Zoo take off your HFD edition sunglasses and enjoy see some of the good that's going in. We have a great recruiting class. Stellar defense , and we r passing better than before. Come along with us for the ride to the top

Amen to that.

 

[ZooCougar]

But the difference is that I'm doing it on a thread titled, "Is next season 'our' time?" I'm going to say, "yes", and I'm willing to list the reasons why. I'll mark you down as a "no"...

This thread was a nice daydream until the amnesia wore off and everyone remembered who the head coach and the offensive line coach were.

If you go back and read how the topic shifted, you will see that it happened quite logically.

So yeah, mark me down as incredibly skeptical.

 

[ZooCougar]

Zoo take off your HFD edition sunglasses and enjoy see some of the good that's going in. We have a great recruiting class. Stellar defense , and we r passing better than before. Come along with us for the ride to the top

We've heard the "good recruiting class" nonsense before, hopefully these coaches won't be here long enough to see these guys take the field.

 

[ZooCougar]

Not apologist. Not happy either. Just want you to stop hijacking posts with the idiotic fire the coaches stuff. Enough is enough. Don't act like a big baby.

Don't read my posts then. It's that simple Rich. Sorry but I am not going to fall prey to the offseason amnesia. That way come October, I won't be surprised.

 

[UConnDan97]

hopefully these coaches won't be here long enough to see these guys take the field.

Again.....sounding like you are rooting against UConn, not FOR UConn.....just sayin'....

 

[huskysupporter]

Again.....sounding like you are rooting against UConn, not FOR UConn.....just sayin'....

It was the same way with Edsall with some posters. I find it weird that some do not want Coach P to be successful. I am less than thrilled with his stewardship thus far, and would not have been upset if he was let go in the offseason, but I wish him nothing but success next year.

 

[ZooCougar]

Again.....sounding like you are rooting against UConn, not FOR UConn.....just sayin'....

No. I have just reached the point where I assume that Pasqualoni will fail. I fully believe that bringing him back is a waste. When he is gone, we will be in a position to move forward. To me, to pretend otherwise is completely irrational.

I don't think engaging in false hope is being a good fan. Supporting a coach who is obviously bad for the program overall is not being a good fan.


I'll still buy tickets, still spend too much on airfare traveling to two or three home games and maybe some away games. That's what a fan does.

 

[UConnDan97]

No. I have just reached the point where I assume that Pasqualoni will fail. I fully believe that bringing him back is a waste. When he is gone, we will be in a position to move forward. To me, to pretend otherwise is completely irrational.

I don't think engaging in false hope is being a good fan. Supporting a coach who is obviously bad for the program overall is not being a good fan.


I'll still buy tickets, still spend too much on airfare traveling to two or three home games and maybe some away games. That's what a fan does.

No, it actually sounds like you've gone past "assuming" that Pasqualoni will fail and are now openly desiring it. And of course we all know that there is only one way that PP can fail, and that's if the team fails. I just don't understand that thought process, Zoo. I CERTAINLY don't understand it from someone that buys tickets and travels to away games like yourself. If anything, that is the thought process of a casual fan.

Contrary to popular belief, I KNOW you aren't a casual fan, because what casual fan in his right mind (or even wrong mind) comes here almost every day to a UConn fan site? But can you explain to me a way where PP "is gone before his recruits hit the field" AND UConn wins a lot of games (without envoking a Sandusky-like scenario)??? Please fill me in, because I'm dying to hear it...

 

[ZooCougar]

No, it actually sounds like you've gone past "assuming" that Pasqualoni will fail and are now openly desiring it. And of course we all know that there is only one way that PP can fail, and that's if the team fails. I just don't understand that thought process, Zoo. I CERTAINLY don't understand it from someone that buys tickets and travels to away games like yourself. If anything, that is the thought process of a casual fan.

Contrary to popular belief, I KNOW you aren't a casual fan, because what casual fan in his right mind (or even wrong mind) comes here almost every day to a UConn fan site? But can you explain to me a way where PP "is gone before his recruits hit the field" AND UConn wins a lot of games (without envoking a Sandusky-like scenario)??? Please fill me in, because I'm dying to hear it...

I assume that maybe one or two of them will actually see the field next season. For UConn's sake I hope next season is Pasqualoni's last as the head coach.

I think that you are seeing what you want to. It's not that I am hoping, it is just don't see any other outcome.

 

[Srqhusky]

No. I have just reached the point where I assume that Pasqualoni will fail. I fully believe that bringing him back is a waste. When he is gone, we will be in a position to move forward. To me, to pretend otherwise is completely irrational.

I don't think engaging in false hope is being a good fan. Supporting a coach who is obviously bad for the program overall is not being a good fan.


I'll still buy tickets, still spend too much on airfare traveling to two or three home games and maybe some away games. That's what a fan does.

Last paragraph like!

 

[uconndogs]

In all due respect to the initial post, 2012 should have been our time. We might wait a long time before we see a UCONN defense play like that again.

All P and GDL had to do to win 8-9 games with that defense and against that schedule was continue to put a solid runnning game on the field. Instead, we got complete and utter BS in terms of development of the OL and another RB to balance with McCombs. Honestly, it just infuriates me that P let GDL do what he did to that offense.

I will be at all the home games next season and do what I do every season. Cheer my balls off for the kids. But, these guys instill no confidence in me.

 

[Adios]

I will be at all the home games next season and do what I do every season. Cheer my balls off for the kids. But, these guys instill no confidence in me.

I am very confident that Weist should be able to make a big difference on offense. Is there any way we can get GDL on TEs and Foley on OL?

 

[uconndogs]

I am very confident that Weist should be able to make a big difference on offense. Is there any way we can get GDL on TEs and Foley on OL?

By all reports GDL is the OL coach. We went from physical run oriented OLs to what you saw last season under his guidance. He's 168 years old, he's P's long-time buddy.......I'm not optimistic.