Irish or Lady Vols

[BroadwayVa]

To me this is a tough one..Which team do you dislike the most. Notre Dame or Tennessee ?

That's easy: I DON'T DISLIKE EITHER. I have watched ND for years and a long time with the Lady Vols.
Pats teams always challenged a Geno's team and early on beat Uconn. They were competitive and it was not just fun game when they came to town: they were great games.
Muffet's team's nearly always played hard nose and toe to toe with a Geno team. Now that is BASKETBALL (no gender applied) at it's best. Muffet could have been more gracious, and as a Catholic school attender I expected more CD the likes of CD graciousness. These games with ND have replaced the Tenn rivalry it would be great to have 2 teams I wondered about each time UC played them.

I don't think Holly is great for the Lady Vols--maybe it's just I don't think anyone would do that team justice after losing PAT.

 

[hoophuskee]

Easily ND. This is more than just wcbb. ND's arrogance with their football program personifies what their ND wcbb team represents. This latest fiasco should have come as no surprise. With ND being partially responsible for dumping UCONN in the conference-IN OF ITSELF that wasn't so awful but in the same year MM going lunatic with her reg. season and FF comments. This was supposedly a former Big East friend that uncorked flames the moment UCONN got dumped. And the flames were delusional.

Just look at the losses too. nearly every time UCONN has won a close game- there's an excuse from MM of the refs. Their combination of arrogance and denial across multiple sports knows no bounds. That's why you get someone like Jewel Lloyd siding with Stewart and why she left early. That's why you see the classlessness of players like Arike. That why you hear pregame the announcer referring to UCONN as Kentucky. That's why you see MM show no class in either pulling Arike or suspending her for 1 game. That's why the ND school is too arrogant to join completely in football.

This is the type of school that is so easy to root against in not only wcbb. That's why it's easy. I do feel bad-- on this site their are very classy ND fans that post.

 

[Wbbfan1]

I'm going with Notre Dame for one reason only. Would rather see Notre Dame get a #1 seed then possibly a #2 seed. Although if they were a #2 seed they would end up in Chicago and not Albany. Don't want to face Notre Dame until the Final Four. Don't see Lady Vols as a #1 or #2 seed and they'll probably end up in the Greensboro region. Don't see this years Lady Vol team a threat to this years UConn team if healthy.

 

[JonathanXIV]

I have watched ND for years and a long time with the Lady Vols.
Pats teams always challenged a Geno's team and early on beat Uconn.

Pat's team did not beat UConn early on. In fact, Tennessee has never had the edge against UConn in their head-to-head series.

 

[BroadwayVa]

I only went to a few games of UC vs RU. The RU fans were disturbing in their excessive use of "colorful language". Geno had his mother and wife at those games.

 

[pinotbear]

 

[Ellie]

I suspect that the answer to this question will greatly depend on the age of the respondent: both the chronological age, and the BY "age". For some of us, "the Tennessee thing" isn't a "ghost from another era". It's the same era, the era of UConn, from the early 90's until today. And, as much as we find ND everything that the rest of you do, we remember... we remember Pat's sanctimony (I know, she may have been ill), we remember the vicious smears from the fanbase, and we remember the complaints filed with the FBI ( yes, FBI!) about the conduct of UConn fans, and we remember the UT athletic office surreptitiously filing NCAA complaints via the SEC office, and, if memory serves, Vanderbilt. ND is arrogant, smug, guilty of violent play, denial, and a host of other obnoxious and offensive behaviors - but, sadly, they've got a ways to go to measure "up" to UT's level.

Great answer ... I’ve nothing to add!!!

 

[MilfordHusky]

Hmmm. Cholera or the Bubonic Plague. Tough choice!

 

[Boxerpups4me]

Pat's team did not beat UConn early on. In fact, Tennessee has never had the edge against UConn in their head-to-head series.

The first 5 years of the series the two teams went 5-5 against each other, but then starting in 2000, uconn just totally dominated tennessee accumulating 8 wins to tennessee's one...

For at least 10 years, tennessee hasnt been able to put a team on the court that would have even remotely challenged uconn in any way

 

[JonathanXIV]

The first 5 years of the series the two teams went 5-5 against each other, but then starting in 2000, uconn just totally dominated tennessee accumulating 8 wins to tennessee's one...

For at least 10 years, tennessee hasnt been able to put a team on the court that would have even remotely challenged uconn in any way

UConn won the first two. Tennessee had to go on a little bit of streak to get to 5-5. As I wrote, they never had the "edge" on UConn. They had to battle to stay even.

 

[HuskyNan]

I only went to a few games of UC vs RU. The RU fans were disturbing in their excessive use of "colorful language". Geno had his mother and wife at those games.

Geno mad a joke after that game.

“Yeah, I heard someone behind us calling me names. It could have been my wife, she was at the game”.

Geno cracks me up.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Hmmm. Cholera or the Bubonic Plague. Tough choice!

@MilfordHusky----How did you like the Marquette (sp?) Vs Miss St. --super great game.
Did you personally know anyone on that team??

 

[BroadwayVa]

Well ......?

 

[MilfordHusky]

@MilfordHusky----How did you like the Marquette (sp?) Vs Miss St. --super great game.
Did you personally know anyone on that team??

I haven't watched it yet. My granddaughter is a sophomore there, but I can't get her to go to see the women's team, even though the Al McGuire Center is only 2 blocks from her dorm. Her younger sister is looking at soccer scholarships and is considering being a walk-on at Marquette. She has several scholarship offers and is taking her time to decide--far more deliberate than Aliyah Boston and Haley Jones!

I believe that Brockton set the school career scoring record this week. They have some players. Imagine if Arike had stayed in Milwaukee to play at Marquette!

 

[BroadwayVa]

I haven't watched it yet. My granddaughter is a sophomore there, but I can't get her to go to see the women's team, even though the Al McGuire Center is only 2 blocks from her dorm. Her younger sister is looking at soccer scholarships and is considering being a walk-on at Marquette. She has several scholarship offers and is taking her time to decide--far more deliberate than Aliyah Boston and Haley Jones!

I believe that Brockton set the school career scoring record this week. They have some players. Imagine if Arike had stayed in Milwaukee to play at Marquette!

See the replay. It was great I don't usually watch replays again, except Uconn, but that game was that good. Marquette impressed.

 

[Undercovervol]

Pat's team did not beat UConn early on. In fact, Tennessee has never had the edge against UConn in their head-to-head series.

That’s not true, at one time in the late 90s TN DID lead UCONN in head to head match ups, including a 97 elite 8 upset. Obviously UCONN leads now.

Edit: I’m incorrect. The best the LVs did was tie the series in the early 2000s.

 

[HuskyFan1125]

I avoided this topic because i wasn't sure where a thread like this was headed. There are so many new posters on this site and no slight to the one above me but some are 'undercover' and here to stir the drama stick.

Choosing one or the other is easy for me. Having been a long time UCONN fan I will always take the Irish over the Vols any day of the week. What the fans and board went through!! Hostility and pure vile spewed from Vol fans will never go away. I will never forget the things said, typed, or implied. They--at that time--were a fan base that was mostly unchallenged on the basketball court. When Connecticut started to win it took a turn to the ugly side. For us posters that were around I imagine they feel somewhat the same way. While many may see Tennessee as 'irrelevant' right now some scars are just too deep.

I cheer for UCONN and anyone that is playing against Tennessee. I am happiest when UCONN has a win and almost equally happy with a Lady Vol loss.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Rocky!! Is this really you? I have come to expect the highest of standards from you. In terms of complaints what you state is accurate. And some of what was done by UT during the recruiting process is true. That is a given.

The disease which took out Pats life is dreadful. Caregivers for them are saints. What most don't realize is that the disease is there inside these victims for long before some one says"
Ah Ha--It's Alzheimer's! The mental thought processes, actions, and deeds are changed it gets worse every year until it is bad enough to be diagnosed.

I detest all the things that UT brought on that damaged UConn and hurt Maya's image (about the nicest young woman to wear Uconn blue and white).
My feelings are that if you want to point a fist at anyone point it towards the UT administration. They were complicit and directly responsible for all words, actions and deeds associated with any damaging actions by Pat. Hopefully all at UT did not have the disease.
I'm a firm believer that a person is no better in death than life.
Sorry Rocky Pat was a lot of things good and bad and the disease is nothing but BAD.

No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .

 

[HuskyNan]

No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .

Paranoia is one of the earliest signs of Alzheimers and it can appear before the disease itself is suspected. Such an insidious thing, Alzheimers, robbing its victims of their sense of self and their dignity.

When Geno first heard of PHS's illness he reacted with respect and compassion. Can we not do the same?

Summitt, who has more victories and national championships than any coach in Division I women's basketball history, has announced she has early-stage dementia. And on Tuesday, her fiercest rival reacted with compassion.

"I was shocked and saddened to hear about the news regarding Pat Summitt's diagnosis," Auriemma said in a statement released from Italy, where the Huskies are touring. "You don't necessarily associate dementia with people our age [Summitt is 59, Auriemma is 57] so this announcement really put things in perspective.

"Pat has great support from her family, friends and staff and I know they will help her immensely. There is no doubt in my mind that Pat will take on this challenge as she has all others during her Hall of Fame career — head on. I wish her all the best."

Feud Between Geno Auriemma, Pat Summit, Rapidly Thawing

 

[BroadwayVa]

No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .

Emotionally I agree with you. Logically, admittedly without proof or facts, I give her a limited pass.
I never felt the REAL culprits in this whole mess the Administration of Tenn U. were publically and properly chastised.
It is their job to fact check, verify, and fully vetted any communications, Ncaa complaints or similar possibly wrong, libelous, slanderous communication
If truly Pat's mental capacity was dropping over the year that of the U of Tenn should not have been.
Who is ultimately responsible for the words Geno spurts forth, if libelous in nature? ---Uconn the University. U of Tenn has not been fully taken to task over this issue.

That 's it. If you are correct in all you say about what Pat may have done, I apologize.
But please never allow U Tenn off the hook. .

 

[Waquoit]

Pat's team did not beat UConn early on. In fact, Tennessee has never had the edge against UConn in their head-to-head series.

Yeah, but Geno lost titles to PHS early when he had the better team.

 

[JonathanXIV]

Yeah, but Geno lost titles to PHS early when he had the better team.

When was that? UConn has never lost to Tennessee in the finals and dispatched them pretty handily a few times.

 

[JonathanXIV]

That’s not true, at one time in the late 90s TN DID lead UCONN in head to head match ups, including a 97 elite 8 upset. Obviously UCONN leads now.

Edit: I’m incorrect. The best the LVs did was tie the series in the early 2000s.

Thank you for the attached chart. It seems to debunk the notion that Pat had an early edge on UConn.

 

[HuskyNan]

Yeah, but Geno lost titles to PHS early when he had the better team.

?? Neither the UConn men nor the UConn women have lost a championship game.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Hey, I have Tenn and its coach so far in my rear view mirror it's for all intents and purposes gone, though Holly's post game pressers keep bringing them back in a deliciously humorous way. But I gotta be honest in answering a Q like ND or Tenn. It is always going to be the team that took their ball and went home.