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Iowa St @ #6 Baylor - 1/16/21

Who will win this game?

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Its time to bring Smith and Egbo back in....

Sarah Andrews looks like she has never shot a basketball before.

Iowa State with a nice run here.
 
Baylor getting worked on the boards and they miss a lot of layups and bunnies near the rim. Kinda hard to win games doing that.

Didi has missed a lot of em
 
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Baylor deserves to lose missing this many layups



Ursin on Jones? what?
 
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Some awful coaching by Mulkey to end the game

Congrats Iowa State, out coached and out played Baylor.

On a positive note, Owens looks great, I think you found a strong player moving forward. She just looked gassed to end the game. Of course she hasn't played anywhere that much before.

Clearly a rebuilding year for Baylor. Not as good as past teams.
 
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turrible down the stretch for Baylor


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How baylor players were unaware they are down two positions with under 10 seconds baffles me. You need to go right to the basket or launch a quick 3. Dribbling out the clock doesn’t give you a chance to win.

officiating was a bit suspect, but great execution by Iowa state. I enjoy watching them play
 
DefenseBB said:
Carolyn Peck announcing..ugh
Here’s a gem from her: Baylor is missing two of their 3 pt sharpshooters-Carrington and Bickle.
Um Dijanae is shooting 28% this year and 28% for her career. And Bickle is 2-12 .167. And as @SECbbfan24 correctly noted, this team is 32-105 or 30% on 3s this year.
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Peck, Antonelli and Mary Murphy just rub me the wrong way. Peck makes a lot of mistakes, Antonelli acts as if she knows everything about basketball and she's always right and Murphy has a style and voice that is very irritating. However, many other people may really like them. Give me Brenda Van Legen. (sp)
 
donalddoowop said:
Peck, Antonelli and Mary Murphy just rub me the wrong way. Peck makes a lot of mistakes, Antonelli acts as if she knows everything about basketball and she's always right and Murphy has a style and voice that is very irritating. However, many other people may really like them. Give me Brenda Van Legen. (sp)
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Can't Kara moonlight?
 
A few observations:
Baylor has been in lockdown for 2 weeks and held their 1st team practice this morning with Mulkey.
They were without 2 players who were in their rotation including Carrington who scores a lot for them.
This team is susceptible to strong and quick guard play and good outside shooting.
Their inside play was not good, fouls rack up way to fast for a 3rd year player like Egbo. Gusters is in terrible shape to run up and down the court. She too was highly ranked at #16 that leaves me shaking my head.
Given the current young talent and signed talent for Stanford, UConn, SC, Oregon, Baylor could be in trouble as an elite team for the next few years...but then again so could the rest of WCBB.
 
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donalddoowop said:
Peck, Antonelli and Mary Murphy just rub me the wrong way. Peck makes a lot of mistakes, Antonelli acts as if she knows everything about basketball and she's always right and Murphy has a style and voice that is very irritating. However, many other people may really like them. Give me Brenda Van Legen. (sp)
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This may be the best analysis I have ever seen! Pithy and succinct, you should have just left that one sentence out and you would have scored a perfect 10!
 
Some may think I'm a little off here but, I think Piath Gabriel has more upside than Gusters. I believe she will help UConn more than Gusters helps Baylor. She is definitely more athletic. Just what I believe.
 
Iowa State is a chippy team. They have some great looking young kids.

I have been high on Smith and Egbo but to me they are weak inside and are not even close to the same caliber players Cox and Brown were. Both of them were able to hide with Kalani and Lauren on the team, just picking up open shots. Now that it's on them, they are not doing much.They got pushed around by a smaller Iowa State team.

Lauren and Kalani were fundamentally sound. Egbo and Smith rely purely on athleticism with very poor fundamentals. Egbo and Smith do not appear to have advanced very far fundamentally from their freshmen years.

COVID definitely playing a role but I also don't see the chemistry. Some of Kim's recent recruiting classes definitely have some big question marks. Surprising some of these kids were ranked as high as they were. Jaden Owens should start moving forward.
 
DefenseBB said:
Gusters is in terrible shape to run up and down the court. She too was highly ranked at #16 that leaves me shaking my head.
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This was Gusters at the US trials in 2018
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This is her now
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She is clearly a talented kid and there was a reason all major programs pursued her, just needs to work hard on conditioning next offseason. She lost a lot of fluidity and athleticism over the last year, I hope she can get back to where she was before.

Andrews being ranked that high is just as surprising to me.
 
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SECbbfan24 said:
Iowa State is a chippy team. They have some great looking young kids.

I have been high on Smith and Egbo but to me they are weak inside and are not even close to the same caliber players Cox and Brown were. Both of them were able to hide with Kalani and Lauren on the team, just picking up open shots. Now that it's on them, they are not doing much.They got pushed around by a smaller Iowa State team.

Lauren and Kalani were fundamentally sound. Egbo and Smith rely purely on athleticism with very poor fundamentals. Egbo and Smith do not appear to have advanced very far fundamentally from their freshmen years.

COVID definitely playing a role but I also don't see the chemistry. Some of Kim's recent recruiting classes definitely have some big question marks. Surprising some of these kids were ranked as high as they were. Jaden Owens should start moving forward.
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Smith is great but is built as more of a slasher/wing than a true 4. She played great off a big physical post like Cox/Brown but Egbo just doesn't have the same presence. Egbo made good strides last year but seems to have regressed this season. She doesn't have a great knack for where the basket is and often gets into foul trouble. Combine that with jumbled/inconsistent guard play due to transfers/covid/freshmen/injuries and it's a bit of a mess right now.
 
I was one of the 5 who didn't think that Baylor would beat Iowa State because they hadn't really practiced for 2 weeks, while ISU had won their two previous games in the last week.
 
Geew1992 said:
www.espn.com

Baylor's Kim Mulkey: NCAA basketball season goes on because 'almighty dollar' trumps health

Baylor women's basketball coach Kim Mulkey didn't mince words when asked if she's concerned about the season being completed, saying, "The season will continue on. It's called the almighty dollar."
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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If she feels that strongly, she should cancel her programs season. Her feelings are certainly propagating to her players. Either you believe in your precautions or you dont.
 
The only thing I have to say is...... Lauren Cox!

Her stats her senior year weren't flashy, but she was amazing if you appreciate being a great teammate. She took defense seriously, and was not in foul trouble as often as Egbo. She wasn't a black hole in the post. She was often looking for the double team, and adjusting to shoot or pass depending on how she was guarded. She could also step out to the perimeter and be a threat out there as well. She really reminded of Steph Dolson, in that she was a facilitator at the the Center position. Although Cox has a higher upside because she has quick feet for a big, and she's better defensively.

I agree with other posters about how Egbo/Smith are very underwhelming this year. Smith is talented, but was fortunate to play with two All-Americans who got all of the attention defensively. She is a black hole. Her shot is going up, no matter what. Egbo cannot stop fouling. Her first two seasons, sometimes she gave me Brianna Turner vibes on the defensive end. But you cant play defense on the bench. She's been disappointing so far, because she was a player I was very excited to watch this year.
 
bballnut90 said:
Smith is great but is built as more of a slasher/wing than a true 4. She played great off a big physical post like Cox/Brown but Egbo just doesn't have the same presence. Egbo made good strides last year but seems to have regressed this season. She doesn't have a great knack for where the basket is and often gets into foul trouble. Combine that with jumbled/inconsistent guard play due to transfers/covid/freshmen/injuries and it's a bit of a mess right now.
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Another problem is that she is a tweener. A wing needs an outside shot which she just doesn't have limiting her to inside and mid range scoring. She can be effective there against lesser players but strong post can out match her on both offense and defense. She also has problems defending perimeter players. She appeared to have been working on her 3pt shot early this season, but so far that has not been successful. Perhaps if she works on it alot in the off season, but she might be a player who can only slightly improve her outside shooting with work. Some players just have a low ceiling in that area.
 
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