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Interesting - Never heard this story Re: Edsall vs Paul Johnson

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Waquoit said:
I believe he threw the team under the bus post-game.
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I believe you don't know what you are talking about. Actually, I know you don't know what you're talking about. Feel free to think what you want, even though the facts don't support it.

``We told our team to be alert for the play-action pass on the very first play,'' Edsall said.
``Our coaches told us they throw on the first play,'' said linebacker Danny Lansanah, the Big East defensive player of the week after the 14-7 Indiana win. ``You knew it was coming.''
``I don't think we were surprised,'' defensive tackle and team captain Rhema Fuller said.
 
Good God, Wing Nut is sooooo annoying. Wing Nut, just letting you know that if you respond to my post here with questions looking for further debate on whether or not you are annoying I will ignore them as I always do.
 
Shouldn't you be on the phone with Marinatto selling him on the benefits of UMass to the Big East?
 
If everyone wants to talk about 2006... why not talk about 1998, when Skip Holtz got lambasted in the I-AA quarters by Paul Johnson.
 
Hey Wing relax - I think most here are greatful and respect what RE did in the short time he built the program and he has been applauded for it by many in the national media. All coaches get called out from time to time but I think what most fans are upset about is the way he left - no excuse for the way he did it.
 
I have never been more dissapointed as a UCONN football fan than after the Navy game. UCONN was utterly destroyed, and one of our players said they quit. and it showed in that game.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
Who is apologizing? What apologies have I made? What did I apologize for?

After 2006 and 2 straight losing seasons, anyone who wanted to give Edsall more time was called an apologista.

After 4 straight winning seasons, 4 straight bowl games, 2 conference championships, and a BCS bid, we are still called apologistas.

What are we apologizing for? The success? Anyone willing to live with his warts, because they are at least satisfied with the results, is making apologies? The premise of your definition is 8ullsh!t.
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Good God you are a blowhard.

You have entered rarified air.

And the crowd that has a critical eye on Edsall's tenure and is not a self loathing "we didn't deserve our success" has a name. The Creamers.
 
HuskyBandDad said:
Hey Wing relax - I think most here are greatful and respect what RE did in the short time he built the program and he has been applauded for it by many in the national media. All coaches get called out from time to time but I think what most fans are upset about is the way he left - no excuse for the way he did it.
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Only if that were true. There is no excuse for the way he left, but this argument started long before Maryland even picked up the phone.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Only if that were true. There is no excuse for the way he left, but this argument started long before Maryland even picked up the phone.
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The real fact is that anyone who didn't put Edsall on a pedestal and worship the ground he walked on is pained by the rest of the Edsallistas as an ungrateful unworthy waste of life.

See what I did there? Aren't stupid generalizations fun?
 
jpm25 said:
I'm sorry. I am just amazed by the lengths some people go to defend an average coach and ordinary person.
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Yes, everything that was accomplished here with him was very average.

When most people look at his tenure at UConn, the rise of the program, and everything that has been accomplished they always talk about his advances in mediocrity. I understand now, thank you.
 
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Excalibur said:
The real fact is that anyone who didn't put Edsall on a pedestal and worship the ground he walked on is pained by the rest of the Edsallistas as an ungrateful unworthy waste of life.

See what I did there? Aren't stupid generalizations fun?
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Here is what I wrote....
The fact is, anyone who defends the job he dids (not praises, just defends) is accused of putting him on a pedastal and enshrining him in the hall of fame.

I stand by that. I didn't say anyone who wanted Edsall does it, I said it happens. I know it happens for reasons that should be obvious. It's happened to me. That's not a generalization, it's a fact.

And the fact is, those that dislike Edsall are the ones who think we should apologize because Edsall did not meet their expectations, despite surpassing the expectations of any rational human being.
This was a generalization, I'll fix it.

And the fact is, *some of* those that dislike Edsall are the ones who think we should apologize because Edsall did not meet their expectations, despite surpassing the expectations of any rational human being.

Happy now? It's still true.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Yes, everything that was accomplished here with him was very average.

When most people look at his tenure at UConn, the rise of the program, and everything that has been accomplished they always talk about his advances in mediocrity. I understand now, thank you.
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I NEVER said the accomplishments of the program were average. I said the coach was, and I believe he is. He was a GT (actually generous), he is at Maryland, he was at UConn.
 
There is something to be said about having a total lack of self-awareness. This guy preaches team above all, but when the time came for him to walk the walk and man up - he took a different flight and never looked back. How can anyone take his spew seriously now? Some players can't, one guy just says he would "keep his spirits up" because he had just three more months before he left the program.
 
I would gave done the same thing Paul Johnson did. Turns out Randy isn't who we thought he was. He was coward who scheduled Buffalo and Temple. He can't even beat Temple anymore.
 
Waquoit said:
There is something to be said about having a total lack of self-awareness. This guy preaches team above all, but when the time came for him to walk the walk and man up - he took a different flight and never looked back. How can anyone take his spew seriously now? Some players can't, one guy just says he would "keep his spirits up" because he had just three more months before he left the program.
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As an Apologista, I agree with this statement 100%.
 
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What Nan said was right on target. I never understood why the apologists loved mediocrity so much.
 
ZooCougar said:
What Nan said was right on target. I never understood why the apologists loved mediocrity so much.
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Just doesn't square with the facts.

I totally agree with Waquoit; he ultimately proved to not walk his talk. But, the accomplishment of establishing a Program (with a capital P) with all that entails is very big. He did a great job for laying the foundation. I do think HE took us as far as HE could. We still can get much much better. I simply think when you say "mediocrity", you have no recognition of what a "START-UP" is ... whether in business or in UConn football. It is something special. But ... as we know in my business ... it often is NOT the originator who gets the credit & makes the big money. Usually it is someone who can jump in and see how to take that entity to another level.
 
Pudge said:
Just doesn't square with the facts.

I totally agree with Waquoit; he ultimately proved to not walk his talk. But, the accomplishment of establishing a Program (with a capital P) with all that entails is very big. He did a great job for laying the foundation. I do think HE took us as far as HE could. We still can get much much better. I simply think when you say "mediocrity", you have no recognition of what a "START-UP" is ... whether in business or in UConn football. It is something special. But ... as we know in my business ... it often is NOT the originator who gets the credit & makes the big money. Usually it is someone who can jump in and see how to take that entity to another level.
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One could easily make the argument that 2 of his final 3 teams underachieved, even taking into account the BCS appearance.
 
Waquoit said:
There is something to be said about having a total lack of self-awareness. This guy preaches team above all, but when the time came for him to walk the walk and man up - he took a different flight and never looked back. How can anyone take his spew seriously now? Some players can't, one guy just says he would "keep his spirits up" because he had just three more months before he left the program.
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I agree with that. But that doesn't diminish what was accomplished on the field, IMO. What the coaches and players have done here should be celebrated, not called mediocre.
 
jpm25 said:
I NEVER said the accomplishments of the program were average. I said the coach was, and I believe he is. He was a GT (actually generous), he is at Maryland, he was at UConn.
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How does such an average coach and ordinary person achieve anything other than mediocrity?

LUCK?
 
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"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." - Don Shula

I'm pretty sure the plan is to continue turning that luck we've had for awhile around.
 
huskysupporter said:
I hear you. I absolutely hated the 2 big east titles he won. Hated them.
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I know. I loved winning the Big East last season while losing to Temple, Rutgers and Louisville while winning the biggest.

I also loved having WVU drop half a hundred plus 16 on us in 2007. I would love to see someone look into the eyes of WVU players and say "We were co-champions" with a straight face. I also loved losing Wake Forest in the third tier bowl game that year. I am sure they felt like they beat a champion that year.

Self hatred? I think not. It's looking at things with clear eyes.
 
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