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Exit 4 said:
Short answer - politics of religion might give AD David Benedict blow back. This is the state that enacted a travel ban with NC a few years ago. I believe AD David Benedict still needs the legislature to lift that ban or grant an exemption for the football team for our Duke & NC State games.

A one off game might be okay - but the idle minds in the state might grumble about a long series....same with Liberty.
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Nonsense. We have played them before and won’t have any issue doing so again. If UConn gets a long term series with BYU that would be fine. FYI we have played many games in multiple sports in North Carolina without issue.
 
freescooter said:
Explain to me again the fixation people have with Coastal Carolina? Why not Old Dominion or Florida International?
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I don’t get it either. Myrtle Beach is a dump. So, I wouldn’t want to travel there for a road game. I live in SC so I would, but I would rather not. I would much rather drive to anywhere in Florida for a road game. However, there is really good high school football in the area, so recruiting may play a role.
 
HartfordHank said:
We don’t want to be part of your league, willing to pay an extra 7 million to leave early but can we schedule four games with your teams?

Not the people to ask for help in my opinion.
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if they hadn't begged for some bball games, I could see your point. Once they opened their kimono and begged for some games, we had the opening we needed to say, sure, but throw in a few fb games as well.
 
Hogoff said:
I don’t get it either. Myrtle Beach is a dump. So, I wouldn’t want to travel there for a road game. I live in SC so I would, but I would rather not. I would much rather drive to anywhere in Florida for a road game. However, there is really good high school football in the area, so recruiting may play a role.
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CC (SC) and ODU (VA) would be purely for name recognition in recruiting footprint.
 
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It is absurd not to play BYU or Liberty basically because they are faith-based colleges. What are the powers that be going to do next -- not play Notre Dame -- if we are given the chance. The whole thing smacks of prejudice.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
It is absurd not to play BYU or Liberty basically because they are faith-based colleges. What are the powers that be going to do next -- not play Notre Dame -- if we are given the chance. The whole thing smacks of prejudice.
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Yeah imagine not playing Providence or Villanova in hoops for the same reasons.
 
Exit 4 said:
The BE is a group we have a long prior history. They dont have an honor code.

The BYU honor code was an obstacle for the B12 expansion...one of many obstacles. I'm sure the campus news papers will remind us about it if we sign up a 6 game series.

I'd be happy to have a long term series with BYU, I just dont think we have it high on our list. Especially if we can get 5 P5 games + 2 AAC games on a regular basis + UMass, Army and an FCS would leave us space for two softer games against the G5 to round it out. The decision will partially swing on how receptive the AAC schools are to playing us post breakup. If they shun us there will be more administrative will to call BYU.

We will know what kind of new Prez we have if we pen a long term series with BYU out of the gate this fall.

We still have to get an exemption for our Duke and NC State games.
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You know the honor code is for on campus students, right? There is a lot of off campus housing all around BYU including some massive complexes that were built in the last 8 years. Not all students are Mormons including a bunch of their players.

The NC ban had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with discrimination. Not sure how you extrapolate that to not playing a religiously affiliated school. If you go down that path, then ND and BC should be out given some of the things that have happened in that church.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Why would you think that? Gotta imagine it would be mutually beneficial for the two programs as opposed to playing lower tier G5?
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Everything I've been reading suggests BYU will be a regular for Uconn. Already playing them, they are an independent and have the same struggles late in season during conference play. Added plus is they have a large fan base across the US. Probably not a better ally in scheduling than BYU...
 
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Gang, I’m not anti BYU or anti Liberty. I’m just a skeptic that pols and admins in this state will want us playing more than a one off game.

I’m happy to be wrong. I’m fine playing both on a regular basis.

And catholic schools comparison doesn’t work- no need to delve further in the obvious reasons why here in this thread however.
 
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Exit 4 said:
A realistic goal is 1 SEC game per year.
And 3 from the pool of the ACC & B1G.
Maybe we will find a way to get 1 B12 or P12 game every other year.

So to box this in, a min of 3 P5 games a year, a middle road of 4 to 5 P5 games a year and a ceiling of 6 P5 games a year. I think that is the realistic range. I wouldn't turn down more than 6 P5 games a year, but I doubt that is realistic.

2020 and 2021 maybe thin. 2022 is the real start date when AD David Benedict will have no excuses.

I could see a 2023 schedule that pencils out as:

1 B1G / 2 ACC / 1 SEC
  • 09/03 - Central Connecticut (scheduled)
  • 09/10 - at Penn State (or BIG) - pay day game
  • 09/17 - Temple (or AAC)
  • 09/24 - at NC State (scheduled)
  • 10/01 - Coastal Carolina (or Sunbelt)
  • 10/08 - Army
  • 10/15 - Buffalo (or MAC)
  • 10/22 - at FAU (or CUSA)
  • 10/30 - UMass
  • 11/12 - at South Carolina (or Sec)
  • 11/19 - Boston College (scheduled)
  • 11/26 - at Liberty or New Mex or BYU
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I’d be very happy with that.
 
Read the book Educated and you’ll never look at BYU the same way again :confused:
 
Exit 4 said:
Gang, I’m not anti BYU or anti Liberty. I’m just a skeptic that pols and admins in this state will want us playing more than a one off game.

I’m happy to be wrong. I’m fine playing both on a regular basis.

And catholic schools comparison doesn’t work- no need to delve further in the obvious reasons why here in this thread however.
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On what actual basis are you raising this? I mean given that we have played all.
 
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I just looked at Army's schedule for the next two years. Both have two week gaps between early/mid-October and early/mid-November games. No coach wants to go two consecutive weeks without playing, much less doing it in consecutive years. If we can fill both those gaps that would have to be very attractive to the Black Knights. They've got games with Tulane, Bucknell and some MAC schools that they potentially could reschedule if it balanced their overall slate.
 
kibblesnbits said:
I just looked at Army's schedule for the next two years. Both have two week gaps between early/mid-October and early/mid-November games. No coach wants to go two consecutive weeks without playing, much less doing it in consecutive years. If we can fill both those gaps that would have to be very attractive to the Black Knights. They've got games with Tulane, Bucknell and some MAC schools that they potentially could reschedule if it balanced their overall slate.
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I think its almost guaranteed we are filling those gaps. Army and UConn working collaboratively as independents to fill the schedule in October or November is pretty much a lock.
 
Exit 4 said:
I think its almost guaranteed we are filling those gaps. Army and UConn working collaboratively as independents to fill the schedule in October or November is pretty much a lock.
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Speculation? It's a reasonable assumption. Anything more?
 
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Dooooooomed said:
I wouldn't either, but I'd still prefer BYU & Army at the Rent. I also think announcing a long term deal with BYU/Army would be a bigger boost for our TV contract.
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I thought some of BYU players played dirty.
 
Periodic update on the 2020 scheduling watch:

Well - at least there has been no news posted on since last week's SEC scheduling announcement to further erode from this list: Still fourteen teams below with open 2020 dates. We only need eight fish to bite!

Florida State (1) <--yes please
Virginia Tech (1) <--yes please
TCU (2) <--yes please now that Arkansas is dead
Arkansas (2)
South Carolina (1)
Florida International (2) (1) <--ok
Louisiana Tech (1) <--hi Bob
Old Dominion (1) <--I like, but they havent scheduled their FCS game yet.
Southern Miss (1) <--whatever
UAB (1) <--okay I guess.
Army (1) <--I think this will happen.
Air Force (1) <--didn't want to go there, but might not have a choice.
Coastal Carolina (1) <--yes please for a series
Louisiana (1) <--beggars cant be choosers.
Louisiana-Monroe (2) (1) <--ugh, okay.

And AAC teams:
UCF (1) <--give them the basketball deal and make this a 2 or 4 game series
SMU (1) <--give them the basketball deal and make this a 2 game series.
 
Hypothetical 2020 schedule update using actual date info
five home games / seven road games:

Upon further review of the 14 schools with open 2020 dates, all but TCU have not booked their obligatory FCS opponent. So we have a serious uphill challenge to convinced perhaps as many as eight ADs to skip their FCS cupcake game.

Also, I decided to build a schedule assuming UCF and SMU wont play us in 2020.
  1. 09/03 - UMass
  2. 09/12 - at Illinois
  3. 09/19 - at TCU (proposed reschedule of Maine - to October). TCU has two open dates. They typically schedule their OOC in Sept.
  4. 09/26 - Indiana
  5. 10/3 - at FIU - has three OOC road games with at Liberty on 9/26, at UMass on 10/24 and a TBD (Sept) at UCF. FIU needs a good home game.
  6. 10/10 - bye week
  7. 10/17 - at Coastal Carolina - they play at SC on 9/5, at Eastern Mich on 9/12, Kansas at home on 9/26.
  8. 10/24 - Maine at home - proposed reschedule
  9. 10/31 - Virginia Tech at home - VT has regularly scheduled OOC games in Oct and Nov in the past. Return game wouldn't be until 2025. Probably a big stretch to get them to the Rent.
  10. 11/7 - Old Dominion at home- This game in Nov is a stretch for two reasons, OD has historically played its OOC in Sept and because while they have an open date in 2020, their schedule has Wake on 9/5, at NC on 9/26 and Virginia at home on 11/21.
  11. 11/14 - at Liberty - Liberty has two FCS games with at WKU on 9/19 and home vs Western Carolina on 11/4. Liberty dumps WC.
  12. 11/21 - at Florida State - Has not scheduled an FCS opponent to end their season, typically they play two OOC in November. Has Florida at home on 11/28.
  13. 11/28 - at Army - This date is open for Army. Start of a new series. Army also has 11/7 open. They have only five home games scheduled. I'd like to make this a home game, but...
Alt game #1: at Southern Miss - they play South Alabama on 9/5 at home, at Auburn on 9/26 and at Liberty at 10/24
Alt game #2: - Make a deal with one of the Independents to make a trade. For example, offer to replace Louisiana as New Mexico State's home game on 10/24 and offer Louisiana to play at UConn at a different date that season.
 
I think the key to scheduling long term is building series that continue year after year. In my opinion, there are four schools that we need to have running home and home series with: BYU, BC, Umass, and Army. If we can schedule these four every year for the last 4 weeks of the season it will be much easier to make up a schedule. It won't be easy but I think the ability to get this scheduling alliance is life or death for the program.
 
Exit 4 said:
Upon further review of the 14 schools with open 2020 dates, all but TCU have not booked their obligatory FCS opponent. So we have a serious uphill challenge to convinced perhaps as many as eight ADs to skip their FCS cupcake game. Also, I decided to build a schedule assuming UCF and SMU wont play us in 2020.
10/10 - bye week
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Great hypothesizing Exit 4. Thanks for the on-topic message. One observation: To enable scheduling flexibility, a bye week will switch dates in a NY second.
 
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