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August_West said:
You dont build on Mediocrity?

Wow.

I guess someone forgot to tell that to the 2011 9-9 in conference UConn team before the BET.

The in conference regular season was the definition of mediocre.

There is ALWAYS room for learning, getting better and clicking.


You just sound butthurt.
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Your reference makes no sense. This team is nothing like that team. This conference is nothing like that conference. How many ranked teams did that team beat? No one in 2011 would have been on this board a day after beating UCF and pounding their chest.
 
Realities:

We beat a mediocre team at home who shot 5/21 from 3 (and part of the reason they are mediocre is that they are missing 3 rotation guys: BJ Taylor, Aubrey Dawkins, Chance McSpadden).
But it is a Q2+ win at the moment, which makes it our 2nd of the year out of 9 attempts, so something to celebrate as long as the dream is alive (and the dream will be alive as long as we still have multiple top 15 teams left on our schedule... but still very much slumbering so far).
14 turnovers in 61 possessions is not good, especially considering it's not a strength of their defense.
Our other offensive numbers were either worse or only slightly improved compared to our season averages, but their defense is good so seems to be mostly a wash (definitely not a giant step forward or anything).
 
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notthestuff said:
It's probably better to just quit if you're mediocre then since you can't build on it.
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No it's not. You should never quit. But as a fan, you should definitely keep results, a win or loss, in perspective. Clearly, if you think last night was a win to build on, you are failing to do this.
 
djct1999 said:
No it's not. You should never quit. But as a fan, you should definitely keep results, a win or loss, in perspective. Clearly, if you think last night was a win to build on, you are failing to do this.
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Lol do you even basketball , bro?
 
It's a Top 100 win so, I'll take it.

According to my count that brings the total of Top 100 wins this season to 1.
 
SubbaBub said:
It's a Top 100 win so, I'll take it.

According to my count that brings the total of Top 100 wins this season to 1.
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Is Oregon not in the top 100??

Talk about falling off a cliff...
 
August_West said:
You dont build on Mediocrity?

Wow.

I guess someone forgot to tell that to the 2011 9-9 in conference UConn team before the BET.

The in conference regular season was the definition of mediocre.

There is ALWAYS room for learning, getting better and clicking.


You just sound butthurt.
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First, the second you use the word ‘butthurt’, you’re a 12-year old and you’ve lost.

Second, no, it really wasn’t. UConn had a bad stretch in February, but never fell past 19/21 in the two national rankings. They were ranked around 15 until the final week of the season when they lost at West Virginia and then at home to Notre Dame. But every team that they played in February, save Marquette, was ranked in the final in-season poll. (Nine Big East teams were ranked at the end of February.) They weren’t mediocre, they were just running a gauntlet.

UConn can improve and hopefully will, but the 2011 comparisons need to die. That team played a murderer’s row from start to finish that year - even more impressive now that I look back on it.
 
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Fishy said:
First, the second you use the word ‘butthurt’, you’re a 12-year old and you’ve lost.

Second, no, it really wasn’t. UConn had a bad stretch in February, but never fell past 19/21 in the two national rankings. They were ranked around 15 until the final week of the season when they lost at West Virginia and then at home to Notre Dame. But every team that they played in February, save Marquette, was ranked in the final in-season poll. (Nine Big East teams were ranked at the end of February.) They weren’t mediocre, they were just running a gauntlet.

UConn can improve and hopefully will, but the 2011 comparisons need to die. That team played a murderer’s row from start to finish that year - even more impressive now that I look back on it.
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The 2011 Big East schedule was practically the NBA Eastern conference compared to the league we are in now.
 
Fishy said:
First, the second you use the word ‘butthurt’, you’re a 12-year old and you’ve lost.

Second, no, it really wasn’t. UConn had a bad stretch in February, but never fell past 19/21 in the two national rankings. They were ranked around 15 until the final week of the season when they lost at West Virginia and then at home to Notre Dame. But every team that they played in February, save Marquette, was ranked in the final in-season poll. (Nine Big East teams were ranked at the end of February.) They weren’t mediocre, they were just running a gauntlet.

UConn can improve and hopefully will, but the 2011 comparisons need to die. That team played a murderer’s row from start to finish that year - even more impressive now that I look back on it.
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It’s relative though isn’t it? No one is foolish enough to compare the actual makeup of 2011 vs 2018 , I think the other guy is thick enough to think I was doing that , but I think you actually are smart enough to know I wasn’t. but I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think running 9-9 in BE wasn’t a mediocre regular season for a team that cut through a Maui murderers row like a hot knife through butter and undefeated preconference. There was a crap ton off teeth gnashing here over that.

We had to play on the first day of BET for Christ sake .


Cmon Fishy you’re smarter than that.

Relativity. I’m certain you understand it.


As far as butthurt, these days that should be on the boneyard masthead .
 
Matrim55 said:
One thing I'll say for KO: His teams always play better later in the season than they do at the start of it. He's proved to be an excellent tournament coach.

Now he's just got to go out there and convince his kids every single game is a tourney game.
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And start the seasons off looking like an American East team. Last night was better and a positive step in the right direction but it's coming off a home game where ECU had the ball with a chance to tie. We are still a bad basketball team.
 
August_West said:
It’s relative though isn’t it? No one is foolish enough to compare the actual makeup of 2011 vs 2018 , I think the other guy is thick enough to think I was doing that , but I think you actually are smart enough to know I wasn’t. but I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think running 9-9 in BE wasn’t a mediocre regular season for a team that cut through a Maui murderers row like a hot knife through butter and undefeated preconference. There was a crap ton off teeth gnashing here over that.

We had to play on the first day of BET for Christ sake .


Cmon Fishy you’re smarter than that.

Relativity. I’m certain you understand it.


As far as butthurt, these days that should be on the boneyard masthead .
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You reference still makes no sense. Nice try but be smarter next time.
 
Fishy said:
First, the second you use the word ‘butthurt’, you’re a 12-year old and you’ve lost.

Second, no, it really wasn’t. UConn had a bad stretch in February, but never fell past 19/21 in the two national rankings. They were ranked around 15 until the final week of the season when they lost at West Virginia and then at home to Notre Dame. But every team that they played in February, save Marquette, was ranked in the final in-season poll. (Nine Big East teams were ranked at the end of February.) They weren’t mediocre, they were just running a gauntlet.

UConn can improve and hopefully will, but the 2011 comparisons need to die. That team played a murderer’s row from start to finish that year - even more impressive now that I look back on it.
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That team also had two future lottery picks. Far from mediocre.
 
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djct1999 said:
No it's not. You should never quit. But as a fan, you should definitely keep results, a win or loss, in perspective. Clearly, if you think last night was a win to build on, you are failing to do this.
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I guess I'm not quite getting how building off something and not keeping the results in perspective are the same thing. I'm completely with you on keeping what was a pretty mediocre win in perspective, but if you can't build off it then what can you build off?
 
August_West said:
It’s relative though isn’t it? No one is foolish enough to compare the actual makeup of 2011 vs 2018 , I think the other guy is thick enough to think I was doing that , but I think you actually are smart enough to know I wasn’t. but I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think running 9-9 in BE wasn’t a mediocre regular season for a team that cut through a Maui murderers row like a hot knife through butter and undefeated preconference. There was a crap ton off teeth gnashing here over that.

We had to play on the first day of BET for Christ sake .


Cmon Fishy you’re smarter than that.

Relativity. I’m certain you understand it.


As far as butthurt, these days that should be on the boneyard masthead .
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Again, you termed it the ‘definition of mediocrity’ and it wasn’t. Throwing 9-9 out there tells me that you googled the standings because you were either out of the country or on an acid trip that year.

Through 16 games, that team was 14-2 and ranked 10th in the country. They were 17-2 and 5th before they started their slide against Louisville in the last days of January. They had what we believed was the best collegiate player in the country.

There’s less than no correlation between that season and this season.
 
Fishy said:
Again, you termed it the ‘definition of mediocrity’ and it wasn’t. Throwing 9-9 out there tells me that you googled the standings because you were either out of the country or on an acid trip that year.

Through 16 games, that team was 14-2 and ranked 10th in the country. They were 17-2 and 5th before they started their slide against Louisville in the last days of January. They had what we believed was the best collegiate player in the country.

There’s less than no correlation between that season and this season.
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Stop being so obtuse. Did I give you too much credit or are you doing a Superjohn imitation? Please, please tell me its the latter.

We were a top 5 team nationally heading into the Big East regular season. It DOES NOT matter when the slide happened. When a top 5 entering the conference season team proceeds to go 9-9 in conference and finish in 9th place playing in the play-in day of the conference tournament what word(s) can be used to describe that stretch? You think mediocre is a bad descriptor of it? Please. Im out of the country on an acid trip? Your revisionist history of the '11 regular season makes me think you took one of those mountain jogs at too high an altitude and suffered Cerebral hypoxia. I think that is much more likely.

We had people here ready to jump off bridges and had to have Makers Muppet make an epic post to even get people to even think about going to MSG. Why was that post necessary if we were such a juggernaut heading into the BET?

Again. Im not correlating seasons. Im correlating simply that teams having trouble can definitely get better. Its a simple point.
 
August_West said:
Stop being so obtuse. Did I give you too much credit or are you doing a Superjohn imitation? Please, please tell me its the latter.

We were a top 5 team nationally heading into the Big East regular season. It DOES NOT matter when the slide happened. When a top 5 entering the conference season team proceeds to go 9-9 in conference and finish in 9th place playing in the play-in day of the conference tournament what word(s) can be used to describe that stretch? You think mediocre is a bad descriptor of it? Please. Im out of the country on an acid trip? Your revisionist history of the '11 regular season makes me think you took one of those mountain jogs at too high an altitude and suffered Cerebral hypoxia. I think that is much more likely.

We had people here ready to jump off bridges and had to have Makers Muppet make an epic post to even get people to even think about going to MSG. Why was that post necessary if we were such a juggernaut heading into the BET?

Again. Im not correlating seasons. Im correlating simply that teams having trouble can definitely get better. Its a simple point.
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Yep and UConn never won cr@p in the 90's under Calhoun.
 
djct1999 said:
Your reference makes no sense. This team is nothing like that team. This conference is nothing like that conference. How many ranked teams did that team beat? No one in 2011 would have been on this board a day after beating UCF and pounding their chest.
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No one's on here beating their chest. Such a suggestion doesn't even come close to mediocre. It's just bad.
 
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superjohn said:
Yep and UConn never won cr@p in the 90's under Calhoun.
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How many times did UCONN underperform their NCAA seeding expectation before 1999? How many times did they play to seed and how many times did the play over their seed.

Let's put this argument to bed once and for all.

I'll wait. Lets see .

I'll take a non-answer from you as a tapout.
 
August_West said:
How many times did UCONN underperform their NCAA seeding expectation before 1999? How many times did they play to seed and how many times did the play over their seed.

Let's put this argument to bed once and for all.

I'll wait. Lets see .

I'll take a non-answer from you as a tapout.
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6 regular season Big East championships, 4 Big East tournament championships, 7 sweet 16's, 4 elite 8's, and a National Championship.

Yep, Calhoun and UConn never won cr@p in the 90's.
 
superjohn said:
And start the seasons off looking like an American East team. Last night was better and a positive step in the right direction but it's coming off a home game where ECU had the ball with a chance to tie. We are still a bad basketball team.
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I don't disagree. But I liked that they played hard and seemed to have a gameplan.
 
Matrim55 said:
One thing I'll say for KO: His teams always play better later in the season than they do at the start of it. He's proved to be an excellent tournament coach.

Now he's just got to go out there and convince his kids every single game is a tourney game.
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An excellent tournament coach? Since Shabazz Napier graduated he's one and two in tournaments and that includes the NIT. Excellent tournament coach?
 
superjohn said:
6 regular season Big East championships, 4 Big East tournament championships, 7 sweet 16's, 4 elite 8's, and a National Championship.

Yep, Calhoun and UConn never won cr@p in the 90's.
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Answer my question about playing to seed in the NCAA's every year before 1999.

Tapped out?

Thats what I thought.
 
djct1999 said:
Because to me, this is accepting mediocrity. You don't build on mediocrity. You don't build on a home win vs an equally bad team.
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UCF is not an equally bad team, nor are they a bad team whatsoever. Going into last night they were a hair outside of the top 50 in RPI, have 3 RPI top 50 wins including over Alabama, as well as another over Nebraska. They aren't world beaters and likely will be a bubble team at best, but certainly aren't a bad team. A win over them is respectable.
 
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