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Illinois Post Game Thread

cwh20 said:
I just put a stopwatch to when the ball was secured by Reibe to when Malachi was fouled. 21.5 seconds. The foul and made shot were not in time at least according to actual time and not factoring in clock reset errors.
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I was hoping they'd give us the ball out of bounds with 2 seconds. Pleasantly surprised they counted it, and would be upset if I was an Illinois fan for sure. There is some human reaction time setting the shot clock, especially now that it's either 20 or 30 depending on who gets it, but if the refs were to go to a stopwatch, they'd probably have to eliminate that element.

Reibe also probably fouled on the rebound reaching over the top of a guy, and that could have cut it to 5 - and then things are getting a little hairy. We'll get better at not playing with our food - just needed to hit some of the open looks we were getting to finish them off. That was what we did down the stretch against Purdue - milked the shot clock, and finished the play. Even while Edey was going off with Clingan in foul trouble, we matched them basket for basket and it never got below 13.
 
uh-no said:
hurley was pretty clear that he was not 100% and pretty much the only reason he played was to give reibe a break.

If hurley wasn't happy with his focus,he would have said so.
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My comment was more particularly about him being engaged or as you would say focus. I did mention his injuries that seem to set him back. Now he is able to run but not at full strength and we hardly threw the ball down low to him in the 1st half. He tends to get down on himself when this happens even when he is healthy. I don't think at this point Hurley would mention his lack of focus when he/Tarris has other obstacles to get over. Once his conditioning gets better he will get the ball much more and you should see a much more engaged Tarris Reed. It would not be a good motivating comment if Hurley had mentioned the "focus".
 
Husky Alien said:
Now he is able to run but not at full strength and we hardly threw the ball down low to him in the 1st half.
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The problem with the armchair psychology is that Hurley explicitly referenced this in his post-game and made it sound as if getting the ball to Tarris on an island to let him take someone one on one was not an option yesterday due to his injury.
 
dennismenace said:
Love the depth and creative analysis the BY will go to on any single incident. This is becoming an all time epic BY commentary subject. Imagine if the call had gone the other way.
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I think the refs made a bunch of questionable calls in Illinois favor leading up to that point to try to stop the game from getting out of hand and to be more exciting for TV, and they felt guilty taking away that basket after all of that so they didn’t.

Its on the refs to notice on a rebound if there is a shot clock resetting incorrectly and they didn’t notice. Had there not been a foul
on that play would it have gone completely unnoticed?
 
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Scottobot said:
I think the refs made a bunch of questionable calls in Illinois favor leading up to that point to try to stop the game from getting out of hand and to be more exciting for TV, and they felt guilty taking away that basket after all of that so they didn’t.

Its on the refs to notice on a rebound if there is a shot clock resetting incorrectly and they didn’t notice. Had there not been a foul
on that play would it have gone completely unnoticed?
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I think Underwood was screaming about it and ultimately helped bring it to their attention. Although he could’ve been protesting a no call that could’ve been Reibe over-the-back (I was braced for a whistle on the rebound and obviously so glad it didn’t come).
 
CL82 said:
The way you phrase it sounds like a 70s weekly drama.
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Understand the back and forth on Smith's 4 point play. Refs are calling it like they see/saw it. Part of the game. I'll just say over the last few years we've had a fair amount of "judgment calls" go against us. Nice to have a call go to the Good Guys. It all evens out over the course of a season. The Law of Large Numbers. Pretty decent reflexes by Smith to get off the shot-with the bench telling him to shoot it- with a big dude in his face and even get it close to the basket-let alone make it.

No interest in debating. Just an opinion.
 
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Scottobot said:
I think the refs made a bunch of questionable calls in Illinois favor leading up to that point to try to stop the game from getting out of hand and to be more exciting for TV, and they felt guilty taking away that basket after all of that so they didn’t.

Its on the refs to notice on a rebound if there is a shot clock resetting incorrectly and they didn’t notice. Had there not been a foul
on that play would it have gone completely unnoticed?
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Honestly, that is part of it - I agree.

The refs are supposed to notice that if it happens - if they didn't notice it and Mali is going off of the 20 on the shot clock, how do the refs justify taking away that shot? He was basing not shooting right away on the fact that the 20 got reset.

It wouldn't exactly have been fair if they just gave the ball to Illinois either. So in that situation, I think they had to just let it play out.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The problem with the armchair psychology is that Hurley explicitly referenced this in his post-game and made it sound as if getting the ball to Tarris on an island to let him take someone one on one was not an option yesterday due to his injury.
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I'm not disputing that he was not getting the ball because of him coming back from his injury and he was limited. It's great to see him get some run in a big game to get him possibly in better condition for the Kansas game. But it does not negate his body language when he is not getting touches. I did not see Tarris on an island reference in the post game presser.
 
FWIW, Indiana, Texas, and UNC all cut double-digit leads to single digits in the second half against the 2023–24 team (Gonzaga, 18 to 10). Texas even got it down to four before Alex hit back-to-back jumpers, both coming late in the shot clock. Give this group some grace—they’re just getting started. They missed a few dagger shots that would’ve buried BYU and Illinois. No big deal. There’s no such thing as a bad win, especially in November.
 
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aboogieee said:
FWIW, Indiana, Texas, and UNC all cut double-digit leads to single digits in the second half against the 2023–24 team (Gonzaga, 18 to 10). Texas even got it down to four before Alex hit back-to-back jumpers, both coming late in the shot clock. Give this group some grace—they’re just getting started. They missed a few dagger shots that would’ve buried BYU and Illinois. No big deal. There’s no such thing as a bad win, especially in November.
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Agreed. And by the end of the year they bad it figured out. The same will happen with this team
 
MrJoe said:
it’s November ; relax . This is when you learn about the team as it is preparing for conference and tournament play. We have significant depth which means their are nights when some players aren’t major contributors but as long as others pick up piece we will be fine ( just need to not have a game where no one plays well - too many negatives in that sentence but you get the point) . What we know 1) point guard situation is a strength 2) lots of wings and we only need two or three to play well 3) Alex and Solo are the main pieces that everything revolves around but they don’t have to dominate ( alex’s 12-9-5 plus blocks good example while solo opens up a lot) 4) reibe way better sooner than expected probably even for coaching staff 5) with a solid seed we will be positioned well going into the second weekend of the tournament 6) 2024 was close to the perfect team don’t expect that but we can still win it all understanding that their will be a couple of 1-2 point games at the 4 minute mark where someone will need to make a play and we got a lot of someones
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This team legitimately goes 9 deep
 
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nomar said:
Who's Clubber Lang? Florida??? Arizona???

I love Rothstein's enthusiasm for UConn but man that dude forces things
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Maybe he means the movie itself and not that UConn is a character in the movie.

E.g. 3rd movie in a championship trilogy that ends up being some people's favorite?!
 
Dogdeacon said:
Maybe he means the movie itself and not that UConn is a character in the movie.

E.g. 3rd movie in a championship trilogy that ends up being some people's favorite?!
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Rocky VII, then
 
ktuck911 said:
We need to do a better job on that....from what im seeing in this Illinois game. We do that we're up by maybe 20-25
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I was referring to our fast breaks during the game. We didn't share the basketball in 2 on 1 and 3 on 1 moments when we should have. Thank God we won.
 
aceboon said:
Solo is so good from midrange and at the basket right now that if he could just shoot 38% from 3 he would sleepwalk to 18-20 points a game. if he wasn't still lighting it up in practice I doubt Hurley would give him free reign to hoist them up, hoping it eventually bounces back in his favor but he hasn't shot it well from 3 in any game yet dating all the way back to the exhibitions.
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Dating back to FL in the NCAA last year actually.
 
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ESPN general article about teams doing well and teams in trouble. Florida and St. John's in trouble. UConn doing well. They have a question about how important the Illinois win was. Borzello says, "At full strength, this team is as complete as it gets."

How important was UConn's win over Illinois?​

Medcalf: Important.

A year ago, the Huskies lost three consecutive games in the Maui Invitational, which stripped the team of its national contender status following back-to-back titles. But those losses also highlighted a bigger issue: Dan Hurley had missed on some roster additions.



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Men's Feast Week lessons: Michigan No. 1? St. John's, Florida in trouble?

From the Players Era in Las Vegas to a top-25 showdown in New York, here's what we learned last week.
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