If UConn really gets 20 million or more

[uconndogs]

Providence is like BC Ultra Light. It is the epitome of "who gives a duck?".

Ban this turkey.........

 

[FriarJ]

I'm simply stating once again as clearly as I possibly can that the early successes of the league helped elevate the Husky program, if we cannot agree on that then I don't have much else to add. There is no debating that the last 20 years, UConn has been the number one team in helping maintain the BE brand, that is not worth debating either.

 

[FriarJ]

Providence is like BC Ultra Light. It is the epitome of "who gives a duck?".

Ban this turkey.........

Do you bring anything to the table? "ban this turkey" "I'm in no mood", blah blah blah. Here's one for you; add something meaningful to this discussion or go away yourself.

 

[upstater]

A Boneyard post from back on 5/11/98

Calhoun is the most selfish coach in college basketball. First off, he cheets in getting recruits. Second, he presured RIP in coming back so he could of finally a real chance at getting a shot at the final four. The hole country knows that UCONN is a joke in college basketball. They have top 5 talent every year, but still loose to inferior competition, can you say choke? Just look at ALL the NBA players who came from UCONN (all were paid btw), yet NO final fours, hahaha, you guys are pathetic. RIP is good, but he's not going to lead you to the Championship, maybe the weak @ big east, but surely not the NATIONAL. RIP should of gone to the NBA and be a bust instead of coming back for yet ANOTHER final 8 lost. UCONN will NEVER get there, just deal with it!! El-Amin is a joke too, that fat slob is a waist of a scholorship, and he'll end up having kids left and right. Once again, Calhoun should be ashamed of himself in risking a player's future. I like Calhoun as a PERSON, but as a coach and recruiter, he just doesn't have it.

Boy, things haven't changed over the years with all the Providence trolls, have they?

 

[noeynox]

Do you bring anything to the table? "ban this turkey" "I'm in no mood", blah blah blah. Here's one for you; add something meaningful to this discussion or go away yourself.

No offense but what exactly are you contributing to or board? You think Providence is great, we think your empty trophy case says otherwise. You laugh at our current predicament, we know, long term we will be fine. What else needs to be said?

 

[FriarJ]

No offense but what exactly are you contributing to or board? You think Providence is great, we think your empty trophy case says otherwise. You laugh at our current predicament, we know, long term we will be fine. What else needs to be said?

Go find where I said PC is great. I will wait patiently. This thread in my eyes has been about the amazing disregard for the 1st 15 years and the start of the BE being tossed away so we can anoint UConn as the all time BE savior. I'm simply trying to make a case that it is more complicated than that.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Good God, enough with the PC clowns - now you are throwing UConn fans off a UConn board? Get the history straight - the C7 have contributed nothing to the Big East name in about 15 years, and for Providence the record is even worse. You have 1 Big East title EVER, we have 6. You have been in the NCAA tournament twice since 1999 while we have won 3 National Championships. You have been past the NCAA first round 1 time in the last 26 years! The last time you even won 20 games, which we are going to do on a widely down year in terms of talent (but not heart) was 10 years ago.

The history shows you have never been in our league, and now after undermining the league at ever turn for years it is finally official.

So my question is, did my post sufficiently add to the conversation that you will grant me the privilege of staying?

 

[Dann]

Go find where I said PC is great. I will wait patiently. This thread in my eyes has been about the amazing disregard for the 1st 15 years and the start of the BE being tossed away so we can anoint UConn as the all time BE savior. I'm simply trying to make a case that it is more complicated than that.

here is what everything comes down to. we can have prov vs uconn arguments for ever if we want. uconn fans will point to banners and trophys and nba players and prov fans will point to a very respectable history 20 years ago and a new future with the BE and the CWO....

but here is where things get messy. uconn fans know that even with everything going on, we can still put 2+2+2 together and see where the end is. prov fans on the other hand can only do 2+2. see this is going to blow your mind. the future is teams breaking away from the ncaa or atleast creating a new higher d1 then the current 1. what thats going to result in is a money change. its not going to be the "pay players" bs line u hear all the time. whats going to happen is the worth of a scholarship is going to change and its going to become ever across the board. so what your going to have is a player can get a sship and its worth lets say 50k. if uconn gets a in state kid then its really only 25k so how does that work? how it works is the ncaa(or w/e govern body) will place values on education, meal plans, casual $ etc. they are simply going to alot so much money to certain things. a players "walk around" $ will go up a lot. the players "bookstore and goods" moeny will go up a lot. now at vandy the education may cost 40k there vs 25k at uconn. well then going to vandy becomes a bit more special of a thing for athletes and a bit less cash in pocket. its a life choice. but it also places value now on if u go to stanford or miss st. thats the end game 10-20 years down the road.

we all hope but can't say for sure if uconn makes a power conf. but even if we dont we will be in a best of the rest conf that will be playing and paying like the big boys. see the dream is to join them. always will be so u follow them. that goes for all schools fball wise who have major goals. here is what u providence fans miss. u can not and will not leave the ncaa/current d1 becuase all u have is bballa nd other sports and need that govern body to exist. so in the future u will not be paying 15 bball players a year like the new higher d1 schools can. the result will be what? prospects are going to go to the big boys 100 out of 100 times becuase on top of exposure is worth. the best players will follow the best coaches who will folloow the $.

but u providence fans dont get it still. u all think uconn made a fball team for fun just to play around for a couple years. u dont understand the split coming and how a lot of small bball schools are going to get left behind. so please, keep yucking it up. u and your fanbase is taking a small win(is it even a win? more like just a move...) that u have lacked for the last 15 years and trying to pump chest meanwhile u are all extremely blind to what the future holds.

 

[Hi-Low]

Go find where I said PC is great. I will wait patiently.

I think everyone can safely agree that Providence College is not great at anything....I'm glad you have finally seen the light.

 

[Adios]

They are pretty good at hockey.

 

[FriarJ]

here is what everything comes down to. we can have prov vs uconn arguments for ever if we want. uconn fans will point to banners and trophys and nba players and prov fans will point to a very respectable history 20 years ago and a new future with the BE and the CWO....

but here is where things get messy. uconn fans know that even with everything going on, we can still put 2+2+2 together and see where the end is. prov fans on the other hand can only do 2+2. see this is going to blow your mind. the future is teams breaking away from the ncaa or atleast creating a new higher d1 then the current 1. what thats going to result in is a money change. its not going to be the "pay players" bs line u hear all the time. whats going to happen is the worth of a scholarship is going to change and its going to become ever across the board. so what your going to have is a player can get a sship and its worth lets say 50k. if uconn gets a in state kid then its really only 25k so how does that work? how it works is the ncaa(or w/e govern body) will place values on education, meal plans, casual $ etc. they are simply going to alot so much money to certain things. a players "walk around" $ will go up a lot. the players "bookstore and goods" moeny will go up a lot. now at vandy the education may cost 40k there vs 25k at uconn. well then going to vandy becomes a bit more special of a thing for athletes and a bit less cash in pocket. its a life choice. but it also places value now on if u go to stanford or miss st. thats the end game 10-20 years down the road.

we all hope but can't say for sure if uconn makes a power conf. but even if we dont we will be in a best of the rest conf that will be playing and paying like the big boys. see the dream is to join them. always will be so u follow them. that goes for all schools fball wise who have major goals. here is what u providence fans miss. u can not and will not leave the ncaa/current d1 becuase all u have is bballa nd other sports and need that govern body to exist. so in the future u will not be paying 15 bball players a year like the new higher d1 schools can. the result will be what? prospects are going to go to the big boys 100 out of 100 times becuase on top of exposure is worth. the best players will follow the best coaches who will folloow the $.

but u providence fans dont get it still. u all think uconn made a fball team for fun just to play around for a couple years. u dont understand the split coming and how a lot of small bball schools are going to get left behind. so please, keep yucking it up. u and your fanbase is taking a small win(is it even a win? more like just a move...) that u have lacked for the last 15 years and trying to pump chest meanwhile u are all extremely blind to what the future holds.

Fair enough Nostradamus. However, again none of that is what I have been debating with Upstater and HuskyHawk.

 

[Dann]

Fair enough Nostradamus. However, again none of that is what I have been debating with Upstater and HuskyHawk.

its nostradogmus

 

[uconndogs]

Do you bring anything to the table? "ban this turkey" "I'm in no mood", blah blah blah. Here's one for you; add something meaningful to this discussion or go away yourself.

Hey, Skippy - I've been "adding" to these UCONN boards for the better part of a decade. You are nothing more than the latest troll to become an annoyance. I'll be on this board long after your ass is banned.

 

[FriarJ]

I think everyone can safely agree that Providence College is not great at anything....I'm glad you have finally seen the light.

Current NCAA Directors Cup standings. We are not at UConn's level but not bad for a school with 3,500 students. Men's Hockey should elevate this standing soon and if by some miracle the BB team makes the NCAA's it will go higher, and the Lacrosse team this year is looking pretty good also.

Also PC is number 2 in the country in schools that do not play any type of football.

4 Notre Dame
14 Georgetown
15 Syracuse
22 Connecticut
25 Louisville
37 Marquette
42 Villanova
45 Providence College
74 Rutgers
110 Cincinnati
111 South Florida
154 Pittsburgh
154 St. John's

Not Ranked
Seton Hall
Depaul
USF

 

[FriarJ]

Hey, Skippy - I've been "adding" to these UCONN boards for the better part of a decade. You are nothing more than the latest troll to become an annoyance. I'll be on this board long after your ass is banned.

You have been adding something; really? I have not seen it. Not saying you have not, simply stating that your game lately has been very weak.

 

[uconndogs]

You have been adding something; really? I have not seen it. Not saying you have not, simply stating that your game lately has been very weak.

Excuse me for asking this, but the question begs to be asked -

Are you an idiot?

 

[FriarJ]

You have no excuse, whining and bitching about somebody from another board posting in a respectful manner and hoping to have meaningful dialogue does nothing to elevate your self proclaimed status.

 

[Hi-Low]

Current NCAA Directors Cup standings. We are not at UConn's level but not bad for a school with 3,500 students. Men's Hockey should elevate this standing soon and if by some miracle the BB team makes the NCAA's it will go higher, and the Lacrosse team this year is looking pretty good also.

4 Notre Dame 14 Georgetown 15 Syracuse 22 Connecticut 25 Louisville 37 Marquette 42 Villanova 45 Providence College 74 Rutgers 110 Cincinnati 111 South Florida 154 Pittsburgh 154 St. John's Not Ranked Seton Hall Depaul USF

I guess I'm supposed to reply since Friar J has presented evidence of PC's greatness....um, ok PC is not horrible.

 

[Dann]

i have placed a order for a top 50 captial master card union directors cup standings finish wiht the # 2012-13 on it. congrats friar faithful. if u order some tshirt let cuse know, they get good deals on tshirts. so good that any time there teams have winning records they put #1 on them and wear them around like they won something. hey who knew, both of u are private schools. guess u have something in common. hehe xoxo

 

[FriarJ]

I guess I'm supposed to reply since Friar J has presented evidence of PC's greatness....um, ok PC is not horrible.

Exactly, not horrible. Thanks we'll take it. I hope for that to replace the fan motto of the last 10 years. "Wait till next year" although if we fall down at the end of this year in BB that will unfortunately have to stay one more year.

 

[FriarJ]

Good God, enough with the PC clowns - now you are throwing UConn fans off a UConn board? Get the history straight - the C7 have contributed nothing to the Big East name in about 15 years, and for Providence the record is even worse. You have 1 Big East title EVER, we have 6. You have been in the NCAA tournament twice since 1999 while we have won 3 National Championships. You have been past the NCAA first round 1 time in the last 26 years! The last time you even won 20 games, which we are going to do on a widely down year in terms of talent (but not heart) was 10 years ago.

The history shows you have never been in our league, and now after undermining the league at ever turn for years it is finally official.

So my question is, did my post sufficiently add to the conversation that you will grant me the privilege of staying?

I have a simple question, would UConn have had the success they have had if they had remained in the Yankee Conference?

 

[Dann]

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Sure, the Big East helped elevate UConn's profile initially.

The rest is Jim Calhoun. Period.

To say UConn owes anything more than a fraction of its success to the 1985 Final 4 and Georgetown wins from damn near 30 years ago is laughable.

Of all programs to come here and spout off, we have a Providence fan telling us who we should owe our success to? Unbelievable.

Providence is one of the worst programs in America.

PC has been afforded every luxury of a Big East association and has accomplished next to nothing in their Big East history.

So keep telling yourself UConn will fall off and PC is on the rise. We've been hearing it the past 20 years and it still hasn't happened.

 

[FriarJ]

Ok, let's take this a step further, Does JC come to UConn if they were in the Yankee Conference?

The insecurity on this board is really something, did you all inherit that from JC?

Nobody is trying to claim that UConn is not awesome and they deserve everything that has happened to them, all schools had the same chance and no one did what UConn did. I'm simply saying the way this conference started helped UConn become what they have become and to say that UConn and only UConn deserves the name and total say in what happens to it is just a very short sighted way to look at history. Despite what you may think it took the help of other schools and their relationships with other schools administrators to happen.

Currently there are 4 BE coaches that are in the HOF. Every single one of them says they owe everything to Dave Gavitt. To look at it like it's all UConn and nobody else helped is incredibly narcissistic. Also show me where I said UConn was going to fall off a cliff.

Was this a long time ago? yes Did it still happen? yes

 

[HuskyHawk]

This is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on the Boneyard. Strawman after strawman.

After the mid 80s, Georgetown went to ONE Final 8 in 18 years. The league's rep would have been in absolute tatters were it not for UConn, and the truth is, it was in tatters. It was known as UConn, basically. You're singing the praise of a very brief span in the league. I do acknowledge that it had a huge rep in that span. BUT, when it did nothing for the next two decades outside of UConn, it lost that rep. We were all here. We saw it. BE was an afterthought to the SEC and ACC and B10 and B12. The BE would have been a blip in college basketball history.

Are you being serious by aggregating number of games won? I can't figure out if you're being serious.

Your post says absolutely nothing about National Championships. I'm going to state this but you may disagree: Championships are important.

Here are the seasons for the league. Looks to me like Georgetown was pretty good in 86, 89, 92, 96, 97. There was a guy named Alonzo Mourning. Anyone remember him? Yes, the Esherick years were lean for them. The Big East was never in tatters, that's ridiculous. The lowest win percentage the league ever had was .565, and that was 91-92, when 5 out of 10 schools went to the NCAAs, and three finished ranked. In the next season 92-93, we sent only 3 teams out of 10, which is among the worst results, along with 02-03, when 4 out of 14 went.

UConn does have half of the Big East's 6 NCs, but only 4 out of 18 final four appearances. The aggregated games won are important, because it's a measure of contribution of NCAA credits to the league. Heres the total appearances and records. I agreed we are the top team in league history, and this shows that. But we are 4th in the league in number of seasons in which we made it to the NCAAs. The key to UConn has always been how well we played when we get there.