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If Gilbert is out for the year again...

Paesano said:
Recent years is not this year. What they did in the past has no bearing on what they are right now. I will take an unbiased analysis of the actual results from this year, done by an MIT grad, over people's biased opinions based on past years.
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They played with Seton Hall too who is a very good team.
 
mauconnfan said:
Alteriques loss is huge. He gets to the basket so easy, he and Adams would drive teams crazy trying to guard them and would open things up for everyone else. It's a huge impact on any expectations when you lose a kid that good and talented. I hope he can heal at some point but if not, wish him the best in his academics and hope his education would point him in the direction of basketball because he seems to love the game. Not predicting the end of his career, just not putting too much hope into him ever being what he expected to be for us.

As far as MAL, yeah he's probably going to be a very nice player and already is pretty good. Good sized kid, can get to the rim, kind of Early Kelly-ish with his creativity so those are good things. But for now Antoine is the better player for us, this year alone, I get the future blah blah blah but AA has won us a couple games remember. If he's not here there's a solid chance we're 4-4 and one of these BYers may have assassinated KO by now. MAL has 15 assists and 13TO's, not great. He can't shoot a lick, a mason. He missed 3 crucial FT's yesterday at URI in the loss and he doesn't look good there at all. A .455% at the FT line for your PG can impact you in a very negative way down the stretch of a game so if that doesn't improve we would have had a PG who we would need to take out the last 3 minutes of every close game? Not knocking the kid or saying glad we don't have him, just pointing out to all of those that think he would be the answer this year, well he wouldn't. Anderson is here because he's not and I'm glad we have him after all his lockdown D on Seaborn in the 2nd half was crucial.
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I haven’t followed MAL but liked what I saw of him in the exhibition game and would love to have him here.

Re FTs, we appear to have a similar problem with Jalen.
 
8893 said:
I haven’t followed MAL but liked what I saw of him in the exhibition game and would love to have him here.

Re FTs, we appear to have a similar problem with Jalen.
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Yeah but we also saw Jalen be solid at the FT line for 2 years so he will figure it out. MAL looks very shaky at the line and I've seen him in a few games now. A lot to like no doubt but it's not all great there either. He will probably be pretty damn good, but it's not killing us he's not here other than the fact we lost him to PC. Well now it is because of AG's injury but we'd still have only 3 guards because Anderson wouldn't be here. My point really is it's more important to get a really good PF/C than it is a guard right now, he's not as big of a loss as some would like to think.
 
My question is this: If AG's latest injury is career-ending, at what point does his scholarship free up? Because if it doesn't, we're down to three guards next year with no available scholarship to get a fourth. It's either Jalen, CV and Akinjo -- or Jalen leaves, and it's CV, Akinjo and whatever PG we can get at the last minute. If AG undergoes another surgery, and we can't free up another scholarship (Kwintin Williams?). then next year's backcourt is an absolute crapshoot.
 
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Sphinx said:
My question is this: If AG's latest injury is career-ending, at what point does his scholarship free up? Because if it doesn't, we're down to three guards next year with no available scholarship to get a fourth. It's either Jalen, CV and Akinjo -- or Jalen leaves, and it's CV, Akinjo and whatever PG we can get at the last minute. If AG undergoes another surgery, and we can't free up another scholarship (Kwintin Williams?). then next year's backcourt is an absolute crapshoot.
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Not sure if this is legal with NCAA but couldn't the kid be released and then made a team manager with KO paying for his school expenses?
 
HooperScooper said:
Redshirt freshman guard Alterique Gilbert missed his second consecutive game with discomfort in his surgically repaired left shoulder. Ollie could not say when Gilbert might play again, but hinted that another surgery is possible.

"The main person that's going to make the decision is not going to be us, it's not going to be UConn, it will be Alterique Gilbert," Ollie said. "He's making that decision."

Monmouth vs. Connecticut - Game Recap - December 2, 2017 - ESPN

That doesn't sound good.
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Once you sublux a shoulder it's an issue. You can tighten the tendons via surgery or just build the muscle mass in the area but it is always at risk for another event and they are painful. He needs to decide if can live with that.
 
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Horatio said:
Yep. Polley is gonna have to step up. Once Cobb is healthy we should be fine with the bigs. Under regular circumstances I think
Whaley would be a redshirt and probably wouldn't be here if Sid just came to Uconn in the first place. There's just too many plot twists.
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Hast the NCAA made a decision on Sid yet. I know clearance for this year was never likely, but it would be nice if they issued a decision one way or the other.
 
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BaZZnBOAT said:
I think the overall moral of the story is that no matter what, we'd only have 4 guards. A 5th guard was never at play. There was no room.
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And to take it one step further, you can not run a guard orientated offense which infers that in some cases you will have 3 guards on the floor without having 5 guards on the roster. I don't care about the specifics re: TW or MAL I just can't understand why we ended up with only 4 guards. Inconceivable !!!!
 
Hugo said:
I don't care about the specifics re: TW or MAL I just can't understand why we ended up with only 4 guards. Inconceivable !!!!
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But how do you expect to understand the situation if you don't care about the specifics that caused it?

I think what you, and many others, mean to say is that you just want results.
 
8893 said:
But how do you expect to understand the situation if you don't care about the specifics that caused it?

I think what you, and many others, mean to say is that you just want results.
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Of course I want results. And to achieve those results, I expect our staff to fill our roster appropriately and having only 4 guards on the roster, and now maybe only 3 due to the possible season ending injury to AG, is not acceptable. KO runs a guard orientated offense and his strength as a recruiter is supposed to be the guards. Just can't fathom how he would enter the season with only 4 guards and one with a chronic shoulder problem. It can't be lack of ships because there are a couples of guys on the team we could do without. We can beat the specifics re: TW and MAL to death, but we still have only 3 or 4 guards on the roster. That's my issue.
 
Time to double down on guard recruiting. If Adams leaves along with Anderson you are down to essentially akinjo as your only ball handler. Have to make plans of life without Gilbert permanently if he is in fact out for year again. Guy has yet to make it to December let along March.
 
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Paesano said:
Not sure if this is legal with NCAA but couldn't the kid be released and then made a team manager with KO paying for his school expenses?
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If this is career ending, something could be done to allow him to finish schooling for free. I'm not sure on the logistics of it but it can be done. There's an endowed scholarship that some of the women's managers get. Things like that.
 
Well we should have one more open scholarship for next year with JA , TL, DO and AA leaving. We fill that with a guard and work on getting KW to transfer as he surely doesn't belong at this level. You recruit another guard for that position so you will have 5 guards for next year with 4 healthy ones.
 
3rdbass said:
Well we should have one more open scholarship for next year with JA , TL, DO and AA leaving. We fill that with a guard and work on getting KW to transfer as he surely doesn't belong at this level. You recruit another guard for that position so you will have 5 guards for next year with 4 healthy ones.
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Myreon Jones from Alabama is a guy we should be recruiting heavily, he's blowing up like James Akinjo was except he's blowing up from unheard of to 5 star status.

Devonaire Doutrive is a good shooting guard out of California still available for 2018. Both are guys than can help immediately.
 
Huskymagic said:
Myreon Jones from Alabama is a guy we should be recruiting heavily, he's blowing up like James Akinjo was except he's blowing up from unheard of to 5 star status.

Devonaire Doutrive is a good shooting guard out of California still available for 2018. Both are guys than can help immediately.
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We need another ball handler for next year if it is only going to be James Akinjo. I hope we get a point guard first and foremost.
 
JMick said:
I don't know a single person who dislocated their shoulder and only did it once.
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You are right. Just look at UConn over the years. Steve Pikiell and Rickey Moore had similar issues with their shoulders during their careers here. Really tough break for AG
 
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August_West said:
Are you thick? No improvement?

Last year we were 4-4 ( and really only 3 actual wins since one was against Chaminade)

This year 6-2.

That’s actually quite easy to find. Troubling you aren’t able to.
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They seem marginally improved.

The constant great escapes aren’t going to repeatable much longer. The upcoming opponents are going to gag like Stony Brook, Columbia and Monmouth did.

You could see Columbia and Stony Brook melt as even small crowds got vocal.
 
whaler11 said:
Once you do that to your shoulder you keep doing it. Some people are susceptible to an injury like this because of the structure of their joint.

The only potential mistake from the staff would be building a roster around a player with an issue like this. It would be hard to say Ollie and staff did that.
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Just so you guys know, Kris Dunn essentially missed 2 years at PC because of the exact same injury that required surgery again when he injured it the 2nd time in an exhibition game diving for a loose ball. He has never had a problem again yet.

There is a very good chance that if AG opts for surgery and rest and rehab the rest of the year he can get back to normal and still have a nice career.
 
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whaler11 said:
They seem marginally improved.

The constant great escapes aren’t going to repeatable much longer. The upcoming opponents are going to gag like Stony Brook, Columbia and Monmouth did.

You could see Columbia and Stony Brook melt as even small crowds got vocal.
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Maybe. Maybe not. We simply don’t know yet. And that’s been my whole overarching theme here the last few days. In the meantime I would much rather put Ws on the board while going through a learning process than L’s. And in the process I am seeing learning. I’m seeing roles develop. Diarra really coming along . Adams turning into a winning time machine. Larrier and CV getting more comfortable. We are gaining invaluable experience in late game pressure. Something teams of the last couple years failed at miserably. A basketball season is a marathon not a sprint and it cuts both ways. The 11 team that won Maui, did anyone see them limping through the big east at 9-9 before turning it on in tourney time. The 201o team was top 10 after first 10 games or so and then folded horribly.
The 14 team got housed by Louisville twice right before tourney. Things happen, when will people learn that? We have numerous injuries and virtually a whole new team with zero experience . Still we put w’s on the board. It’s a marathon not a sprint. The handwringing is simply premature. People love remembering our unlikely title runs in 11 and 14 but forget how rocky the road was at times getting there.
I blame millenials ( for their instant gratification needs and ADD) and spoiled baby boomers ( for being the most selfish front runners ever) . They all suck

I promise that when we beat Syracuse Tuesday peoples tunes change . And I’m going to torture them because I have a list and a weeks worth of miserable quotes ready to post and beat them over the head with. I can’t wait! :)
 
husky99 said:
Heard he is out. Could be career ending... sad...
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Really devastating to the future of this program, but way worse for him personally. It looks like the injury was going to happen at some point no matter what though.
 
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Hugo said:
Of course I want results. And to achieve those results, I expect our staff to fill our roster appropriately and having only 4 guards on the roster, and now maybe only 3 due to the possible season ending injury to AG, is not acceptable. KO runs a guard orientated offense and his strength as a recruiter is supposed to be the guards. Just can't fathom how he would enter the season with only 4 guards and one with a chronic shoulder problem. It can't be lack of ships because there are a couples of guys on the team we could do without. We can beat the specifics re: TW and MAL to death, but we still have only 3 or 4 guards on the roster. That's my issue.
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Sucks because neither one of those guys are near the level of Gilbert at 100%, and we can't even get or at least keep players at their level now.
 
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FriarJ said:
Just so you guys know, Kris Dunn essentially missed 2 years at PC because of the exact same injury that required surgery again when he injured it the 2nd time in an exhibition game diving for a loose ball. He has never had a problem again yet.

There is a very good chance that if AG opts for surgery and rest and rehab the rest of the year he can get back to normal and still have a nice career.
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Do you know who performed that 2nd surgery?
UConn should sprint to whoever it was.
 
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