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businesslawyer said:
It's laughable to blame KO for the injury. It is perfectly fair to blame KO for not having a 5th guard on the roster, as long as you recognize that it wasn't for lack of trying. MAL's decommit hurt.
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I think some people don't realize how bad the timing was for KO and company. MAL decommit when they already thought they were done. He was now coming into battles with teams who had been putting in the time for much longer. It was an uphill battle. Antwoine Anderson is a godsend.
 
businesslawyer said:
It's laughable to blame KO for the injury. It is perfectly fair to blame KO for not having a 5th guard on the roster, as long as you recognize that it wasn't for lack of trying. MAL's decommit hurt.
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I agree that the injury obviously isn't KO's fault, but not being adequately prepared at the position certainly is.

Whose fault is that decommit if not KO's?
 
I don't blame the staff for AG's shoulder, it's been an issue long before UConn....it's sucks for him and UConn.

In any case now JA, AA & CV will have to play way, way too many minutes which often leads to more injuries.....it's not a good situation. Can't keep any of 3 guards on the bench for more than the occasional blow the way our offense is completely guard centered. Antoine Anderson had to play 45 mins against Monmouth just to keep any chance of winning possible.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Other than ignoring their top 2017 recruit, who plays the same position, leading him to decommit. And then letting another premier, in-state player at the same position slip away.

The staff needed to take seriously our needs at PG and they did not. Antoine Anderson should have been a 5th guard, instead he's a starter.
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The in-state player didn’t slip away. He had zero interest in going to UConn.

Right. Wrong. It doesn’t matter.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
I agree that the injury obviously isn't KO's fault, but not being adequately prepared at the position certainly is.

Whose fault is that decommit if not KO's?
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Would you have preferred them to grab someone who was potentially not up to snuff with the level of play? Honest question.

They tried VERY hard to get a guard. They also came into many recruiting battles that were already in full swing. When it comes to Tremont Waters... It's time to just realize he was NEVER interested in coming here.
 
whaler11 said:
The in-state player didn’t slip away. He had zero interest in going to UConn.

Right. Wrong. It doesn’t matter.
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To say they did their due diligence on Waters is an understatement. His Dad wanted UConn. It is what it is.
 
shizzle787 said:
So then answer me this riddle. Why do we keep recruiting kids who have pre-existing injuries (Alterique, Larrier, Durham, Diarra, etc.)?
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Larrier and Diarra did not have pre-existing injuries. At the time of AG's commitment, he had injured his shoulder once his sophomore year and had went 2 years without injury. Durham, yes, we took a flyer on him.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I agree that the injury obviously isn't KO's fault, but not being adequately prepared at the position certainly is.

Whose fault is that decommit if not KO's?
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Fault and responsibility are not the same thing. It is clearly KO's responsibility that we only had 4 guards where one had a shoulder issue with a strong possibility of recurrence. That doesn't make MAL's decommit his fault. Neither you nor I have any idea if KO had any fault in that.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Reality is if mal was here anderson wouldn't have committed. And while mal is much better overall prospect he is not a good outside shooter.

Long term we are better team with mal over anderson. Short term anderson won't hurt us.
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I think the overall moral of the story is that no matter what, we'd only have 4 guards. A 5th guard was never at play. There was no room.
 
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BaZZnBOAT said:
Would you have preferred them to grab someone who was potentially not up to snuff with the level of play? Honest question.

They tried VERY hard to get a guard. They also came into many recruiting battles that were already in full swing. When it comes to Tremont Waters... It's time to just realize he was NEVER interested in coming here.
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Maybe Waters would have been interested if KO hadn't run the program into the ground, failed to get a single one of his recruits to the NBA, and generally deprived our brand of positive associations and buzz over the last 3 years.
 
Walker11 said:
Larrier and Diarra did not have pre-existing injuries. At the time of AG's commitment, he had injured his shoulder once his sophomore year and had went 2 years without injury. Durham, yes, we took a flyer on him.
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Didn't Larrier tear his other ACL in high school? I know Diarra had previous knee issues.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Maybe Waters would have been interested if KO hadn't run the program into the ground, failed to get a single one of his recruits to the NBA, and generally deprived our brand of positive associations and buzz over the last 3 years.
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He didn't want to come here even when we were of better stature. He was a Duke lover, but they never offered him.
 
Walker11 said:
Larrier and Diarra did not have pre-existing injuries. At the time of AG's commitment, he had injured his shoulder once his sophomore year and had went 2 years without injury. Durham, yes, we took a flyer on him.
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Any team in the country not named Duke or Kentucky would have taken Durham.
 
Fishy said:
Are you stupid?

He had his second injury in the McD’s game.

You think we should have dropped him?
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Yea. At that point, yes.
 
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shizzle787 said:
Yea. At that point, yes.
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I can see it now...

"KO is ruining the integrity of the program by rescinding the scholarship. We made an offer to the-" ... you get it.
 
BaZZnBOAT said:
I think the overall moral of the story is that no matter what, we'd only have 4 guards. A 5th guard was never at play. There was no room.
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Eh. We didn't need Williams. With one spot being used by the redshirt, 7 frontcourt and 5 guards would have made more sense.
 
shizzle787 said:
Didn't Larrier tear his other ACL in high school? I know Diarra had previous knee issues.
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Durham yes, Larrier no.

Diarra's knee issue came as a surprise to the fanbase, but it's hard to believe the staff had no idea (or maybe it's not so hard to believe).

Regardless, KO resorting to damaged goods and sloppy seconds in recruiting has hurt this program big-time.
 
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The brace thing was a huge red flag to me, even after he was 'cleared for 100-% basketball activity.' They still trotted him out.

It's messed up to play him if he wasn't ready, and it seems like he wasn't.
 
shizzle787 said:
Bad workout preparation can lead to a higher chance of a recurrence of injuries or new injuries.
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The kid hurt his shoulder badly, and then a week into the season he got hurt again. I can't even imagine how S&C at UConn would be to blame for that.
 
Nothing UConn could do about this. buddy of mine has same issue and had to retire from playing hockey proprofessionally. Had 4 surgeries and said didn't make a difference he was still having it popping out when taking slap shots and just the rigors of hockey. Said he would take handfuls of pain meds before and after games then decided he had enough and left the sport.

Shoulders aren't elbows or knees different animal and everyone different. Can't fault the staff on this one.

Hopefully it's not another lost season and he can rehab and come back later this year. Really feel for the kid. Love his game from the little I've seen. Wish him the best no matter what the outcome
 
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businesslawyer said:
Eh. We didn't need Williams. With one spot being used by the redshirt, 7 frontcourt and 5 guards would have made more sense.
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You're right. We basically went and got KW after that Italian kid chose Texas Tech.
 
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