On the field this year I might grudingly agree that ACC football is in an onfield pause, but still they are better than UCONN, Louisville, South Florida, Rutgers or Cincy by quite a bit. Even in this down year for ACC football Clemson, VTech, or Georgia Tech would demolish any remaining Big East school. Have not checked on the exact number, but getting back to history for a moment, including accepted invitees, the ACC brings 20 or 30 NC's in football to the table, and that translates into a tremendous football culture that's not going away anytime soon.
I'm talking the present football culture as well as history, and you know that. So you should add present military culture and military industrial complex to your laughable US/England war comparison and then see how ridiculous it looks. Football culture and associated booster and fan base, recruiting, the ability to sign and retain great coaching comes from that history and tradition to some degree as well. And it's light years ahead of anything the Big East has in it's present form. I could also make my point from the perspective of NFL players from the ACC vs The BE, and not even include EJ Manuel, Phillip Rivers, Russell Wilson or Michael Vick!
On problem there is the football culture is not nearly what it used to be. Though I will admit, IF and it's a big IF, Army were to join the BE that would be a good thing for the BE conf, but I have my doubts that they will.Hopefully the Big East can convince the POWER HOUSE Army program to the Big East. They have incredible history and have won NCs! Army is a historic power house!!!
LOL! Yeah maybe it is.
Hopefully the Big East can convince the POWER HOUSE Army program to the Big East. They have incredible history and have won NCs! Army is a historic power house!!!
Agree with you on Miami, they are on thin ice. Maybe Golden can bring back the glory but we will see. Is Lou Saban or Howard Schnellenberger still around?
The ACC's football culture is just not that big a thing. Not all tha tmuch better than the Big East's. They don't draw huge crowds, outside of Clemson and Florida State and when they aren't winning those two don't set the world on fire, either. Wake and Duke can't come close to selling out 30,000 seat venues. Georgia Tech doesn't sell out. Maryland's AD sent a letter to alumni litterally begging them to show up at Terp games. The attendance at the ACC Championship game has been historically dismal and it got bumped from ABC to ESPN, and might well end up on ESPN 2 or even U because it just can't compete with any of the others.
At least Wake and Duke have D1 football teams, can't say the same for Villanova, St Johns, or Georgetown. LOL!
Maybe you're right but then again maybe you're not. My own opinion, based on some info and a lot of hope is that we will be in the ACC by this time next year.
Is it disgusting? Yeah maybe, but Swofford is one smart cookie if you ask me. He's doing to the conference landscape what Sam Walton did for super market and dept store chains.
Nah. You need somebody to beat. You just do. It can't be too tough for the LSUs of the world. They need to have a certain number of almost guarenteed wins every year. And when you see all those teams going 9-3 fans will complain that the quality isn't as good as it used to be.
Is that the same Clemson team that USF demoplished last year in their Bowl game?
Go find out how many ACC players were drafted by the NFL last year vs the Big East, then we'll talk. Or check out this link...
Where to start. Okay, first off, my favorite line in the link is "A total of 252 colleges were represented on Kickoff 2007 Weekend rosters." The article you linked is from 2007. Even if it was from last week, what does the # of NFL players have to do w/ how good a college TEAM is? Also, the ACC better have more players on NFL rosters than the BE since they have 4 more teams in their league.
Gee, how come UCONN is ranked so high in the pre season after losing Kemba? Andre Drummond? Yeah but he hasn't played one college game yet, I don't get it? And does having an NBA caliber stud on the team really make them a lot better? According to some people on the football side probably not. Could he start now in the NBA or be a1st round draft pick? Nah. Should UCONN be ranked so high? Nah.
No, UConn isnt the same as ly a new HC, OC, and DC and QB will do that. I mentioned before you should check out the computer rankings of each conference over the past 4+ years, and you'd be surprised at how well the BE stacks up v. ACC. I'll save you the time. Per Sagarins, one of the computers used in the BCS, the average conference ranking over the past 5 years ('06-'10 seasons), the BE's average is the 4th best conference out of the 6 BCS conferences. ACC's is ranked 5th, and the B10 is 6th out of the 6 BCS conferences. In those 5 seasons, the BE conference as a whole finished ranked higher than the ACC 3 times, and higher than the B10 4 times. This isn't my opinion, it's straight from the unbiased computers. Adding BSU, Houston, UCF, and others actually strengthens the rankings. So despite what ESPiN will tell you every week, from top to bottom, the BE stacks up just fine against the almighty ACC and the B10, and is not that far off of the B12 and P10. The SEC is heads and shoulders above the rest.
