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BY06518 said:
That is true...but the free fittings at Chris Cote and Golf Galaxy to me are not as good because one most the fitters don't know what they are talking about they fit based off numbers rather than swing type. I would rather pay for the fitting from Greenwich golf or downtown golf get the have the specs and look on ebay or through the company directly.
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I'm not really sure where to start with how inaccurate of a post this is.

I used to work in the golf industry, went to college for golf, and have played competitively. In no way, shape, or form are you fitted by your "swing type." I've never heard this before in my life and I'm not sure I will again. An ideal fitting would be on a trackman launch monitor with a couple different drivers/shafts/head combinations and see what gives the best launch/spin combination. From there, they are going to tinker around with the driver head and shaft that is optimal to YOU. Not a type of swing.

Iron fittings are simpler, really. Find an iron that you like, get on with the Mizuno shaft optimizer and find out what shaft/stiffness/weight is ideal for you based on the specs its reading. They will then give you the same club with the different shaft offerings, look at the numbers again on a trackman, and make a suggestion.

I could go on with this post but that's the basics to a great fitting. "swing type" has nothing to do with a fitting.
 
If you guys want a great ball at a reasonable price. Take a look at Snell Golf. They are located just over the border and I won't play anything else at this point.
 
If you have been playing for years and still play that poorly maybe think about a tennis racket!
 
jibsey said:
I want to get 1 more set so I want high quality. I know there are a million choices but my game would be 90-100 depending on course difficulty and tightness. Also need a new bag. Where is the best place to buy? Thinking driver, 3 and 5 wood, irons pitching wedge. Taylor made? Degree of loft? Material for shaft?
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The absolute best value in a cart bag is the one offered by MG Golf. I know five folks who have used them for years. The latest model has many useful features. MG Golf Discount Cart Bags
As for clubs, I’m a 16 handicapper, 70 years young, but the power is just not what it used to be so I switched from my Ping irons to hybrids last year and I am much more consistent (8, 7, 6 iDrive hybrids available from eBay, and Adams Super S hybrids #s 5, 4, 3, 2 (replaces 5 wood). I also love my Callaway Epic 3 wood, and Ping G 400 driver with senior shafts. I keep a 9 iron and wedges for chipping and pitching. I highly recommend getting fitted for a driver, if nothing else. Have fun.
 
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storrsroars said:
As a long-time 90-100 golfer, I'd consider replacing the 3-iron with a hybrid (~19 degree loft), or if you're a better ball striker than your handicap suggests, a driving iron, which should have a tiny bit more accuracy.
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Even ten years ago my Taylor Made irons came with a pitching wedge and approach wedge (you add your own sand wedge) and irons only up to 5. My 3 and 4 are hybrids. Only mistake I made with that set was not anticipating that I’d get old and spending the extra on graphite shafts.
 
I used to think boarders and skiers owned the market on 'equipment chat.' then I started to goff more. newsflash me, I was soooo wrong. duffers rule. after hearing the umpteenth convo aboot 'this year will be different cuz I just bought the Acme 9000 hybrid fairway putter with the personalized 57 1/2 degree radar controlled loft analyzer,' I knew I entered the twilight zone of loopy talk. newsflash you, me, and just aboot everyone else (equality!) we suck. I once heard that something like only 10% of hackers honestly break 100 (proally 99% when not playing their 'home' course-- 'bbut on my course, there are no hills, sand, water, trees, wind, etc.'). the good Lord invented alcohol and drugs as coping aids for listening to that noise. however, as a fellow looper (loopier?) I will say that there is only one ball--Pro V's. even with those, we'll still hit the cart path. the only 'scratch' to be had on the links is when a mosquito bites you. pay attention, since I always shoot in the 70's. if it's colder, I ain't playing. jack, tiger, and annika can shred us with a tree branch and a lump of coal. ahh goff, we stunk yesterday, we stink today, but we'll be back tomorrow, cuz, you know, this time it will be different! lol.
(edit: I received no compensation from the Acme corporation for promoting their product, but the Pro V folks sent a box of pencils with extra large erasers for the mention...)
 
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UConnKev said:
I'm not really sure where to start with how inaccurate of a post this is.

I used to work in the golf industry, went to college for golf, and have played competitively. In no way, shape, or form are you fitted by your "swing type." I've never heard this before in my life and I'm not sure I will again. An ideal fitting would be on a trackman launch monitor with a couple different drivers/shafts/head combinations and see what gives the best launch/spin combination. From there, they are going to tinker around with the driver head and shaft that is optimal to YOU. Not a type of swing.

Iron fittings are simpler, really. Find an iron that you like, get on with the Mizuno shaft optimizer and find out what shaft/stiffness/weight is ideal for you based on the specs its reading. They will then give you the same club with the different shaft offerings, look at the numbers again on a trackman, and make a suggestion.

I could go on with this post but that's the basics to a great fitting. "swing type" has nothing to do with a fitting.
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Yep. And when I went in for a comprehensive fitting the guy said: don't waste your money, your swing isn't consistent enough. So we did a lower level fitting and I picked out the Taylor Made irons I have today.

With drivers I hit a bunch for free at Golfsmith (now closed sadly). Same with putter. I bought a new driver late last season, Srixon without ever hitting it. Adjustability reduces some of the risk. I did look at the shaft most closely to fit what I wanted.

I think the approach is entirely different for a better golfer. But if your swing sucks, and you get a fitting based on that...is that helpful? Maybe get used clubs and lessons.
 
Can someone explain to me what a "custom fitting" entails? Is this just testing different trajectories of different irons in the simulator or actually changing the lie of the face of the club?
 
HuskyAlum012 said:
Can someone explain to me what a "custom fitting" entails? Is this just testing different trajectories of different irons in the simulator or actually changing the lie of the face of the club?
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Both. Depends on where you get it done.
 
polycom said:
Both. Depends on where you get it done.
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Do you have examples of which places do what? I live in NYC but can easily get to the Milford area which is where my clubs are. So Golf Galaxy is the closest place for me but could be willing to go to golfers warehouse or Chris Cote if it's really worth it.

I'm in the market for new irons, but am also considering geting my old ones re-fitted since I believe the alignment is a little off.
 
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ZenConn said:
Try to get fitted or at least have a launch monitor handy to know your numbers. I'm in the market for a new driver as the technology is changed enough to replace my 915D2 so I'm going to get fitted at Club Champion.

My Mizuno MP5's will stay in my bag for a long time. I love 'em but I don't play or practice enough to keep a 3 iron in the bag. Few amateurs have the swing speed to hit them consistently. I picked up a couple of Mizuno CLK hybrids (3 and 4) last year and I'm thinking about taking out the 3 hybrid and play an extra wedge this year.
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I still have a 3 iron because it is the right club for me on 2 par 3's at my course. At some point I'm going to go with a hybred because that is probably a better choice. I don't hit the 3 iron off the fairway but will occasionly use it in the ruff if I have a fluffy lie. Usually when I pull it out of the bag it is a mistake.
 
Danzz said:
I still have a 3 iron because it is the right club for me on 2 par 3's at my course. At some point I'm going to go with a hybred because that is probably a better choice. I don't hit the 3 iron off the fairway but will occasionly use it in the ruff if I have a fluffy lie. Usually when I pull it out of the bag it is a mistake.
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I kept the 4 iron until I realized the 60 degree is a winner from 75 in for me, but 3 iron has been gone for years. It was as you say, usually a mistake but on occasion a stinger worked for a tee shot or a long par 4, short par 5 off the fairway. Get the hybrids, they are wonderful.
 
HuskyAlum012 said:
Do you have examples of which places do what? I live in NYC but can easily get to the Milford area which is where my clubs are. So Golf Galaxy is the closest place for me but could be willing to go to golfers warehouse or Chris Cote if it's really worth it.

I'm in the market for new irons, but am also considering geting my old ones re-fitted since I believe the alignment is a little off.
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Greenwich Golf is where I go Jacques is a great fitter. Absolutely worth the price if you don't buy if you do your amount is put towards the set.

We're all individuals. - Greenwich Golf Fitting Studio
 
Danzz said:
I still have a 3 iron because it is the right club for me on 2 par 3's at my course. At some point I'm going to go with a hybred because that is probably a better choice. I don't hit the 3 iron off the fairway but will occasionly use it in the ruff if I have a fluffy lie. Usually when I pull it out of the bag it is a mistake.
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Hybrids are much easier to hit out of the rough. Shape goes through the grass with less resistance.
 
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HuskyAlum012 said:
Do you have examples of which places do what? I live in NYC but can easily get to the Milford area which is where my clubs are. So Golf Galaxy is the closest place for me but could be willing to go to golfers warehouse or Chris Cote if it's really worth it.

I'm in the market for new irons, but am also considering geting my old ones re-fitted since I believe the alignment is a little off.
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May want to check out Club Champion. Two in NYC, one near NYU, other is in FIDI/Stone St. The facility has club fitters, a dozen or so simulators and a full service bar. In other words, its the best place on earth.

Went in for a putter fitting at lunch and ended up ordering a custom built putter. The fitting was thorough, showed me some things about my putting stroke that I never realized was happening, but it is expensive.
 
HuskyAlum012 said:
Do you have examples of which places do what? I live in NYC but can easily get to the Milford area which is where my clubs are. So Golf Galaxy is the closest place for me but could be willing to go to golfers warehouse or Chris Cote if it's really worth it.

I'm in the market for new irons, but am also considering geting my old ones re-fitted since I believe the alignment is a little off.
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If you can afford it go to Club Champions in the city. I get my clubs fit through GolfTec since I take lessons there.
 
I just ditched my 50 degree A wedge for an M2 fairway 3-wood.

I have a hangup hitting my 3 hybrid with the smaller head off of a tee.

Probably a non mover off of my 22 handicap.
 
I'm reading these "fitting" suggestions and I may just try it next time I go new on irons and even driver etc..For an ex-baseball player who just wanted to be decent at golf, inconsistent if necessary I pretty much am what I want to without lessons, fitting and really just buying off the rack or EBay. Is there things in my game I'd like to improve? Hell yeah I'm a low ball hitter until I get to the wedges for whatever reason so hitting over corners etc are rarely an option for me. I'd love to hit the driver, hybrids and mid irons higher but there's also people I play with who wish they had my trajectory especially in the wind which doesn't bother me all that much. I buy good stuff, EBays great when a "brand new" driver or hybrid is now 2 years out from a manufacturer and is down 40%, time to try them. I just bought the M3 on Ebay for a crazy number brand new wrapped and I wouldn't have bought it for 400 or more 2 years ago. Just be patient and wait for Taylor or your favorite to make the next generation and jump on the last one. I had the M2 but the M3 Twist face straighter and a little longer. Back to the fitting, interesting theories may have to try. But reality of my game is when I'm "swinging it good" I play well and I can tell early in a round. When I'm swinging "weird" it doesn't matter what the clubs fit are because the face of the club doesn't see much ball LOL.
 
Tuna said:
If you go to get fitted, try out Mizuno JPX’s. If you like them I have a set of 850s that has been used for 2 rounds and 2 range sessions that I’ve been meaning to sell but haven’t out of pure laziness. Would part with them cheaper than you’ll find anywhere else.
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Just to correct this post, the clubs are the jpx 850 forged.
 
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Tuna said:
Just to correct this post, the clubs are the jpx 850 forged.
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I was a Taylor Made guy all of my life of golf minus the early years of not caring. But for the last 30-35 years Taylor. Burners of all kinds, R7's, R9's etc etc but a couple years ago hitting a few at Cote's and the Mizuno JPX-EZ's felt special. Only thing was loss of length, half to full on some. But most know that Taylor bends the rules just a bit on degrees for distance marketing reasons. I have the Mizuno's now and have never been as consistent with where I want to hit and the just the sweet spot itself. Used to hit 7 about 165-175 now I'm 155-160 but where I want to hit it more often. Always hear about Mizuno irons and now I'm a believer. Recently grabbed some Aeroburners to play and try as I wanted to get distance back, no way the feel and the thickness of the look was way off from the JPX's. I do stay with TM on woods and hybrids though love them and putter is a center shafter TM Ardmore red. May end up trying the M5 or M6 irons as they look real nice but thats a year or 2 away LOL
 
mauconnfan said:
I was a Taylor Made guy all of my life of golf minus the early years of not caring. But for the last 30-35 years Taylor. Burners of all kinds, R7's, R9's etc etc but a couple years ago hitting a few at Cote's and the Mizuno JPX-EZ's felt special. Only thing was loss of length, half to full on some. But most know that Taylor bends the rules just a bit on degrees for distance marketing reasons. I have the Mizuno's now and have never been as consistent with where I want to hit and the just the sweet spot itself. Used to hit 7 about 165-175 now I'm 155-160 but where I want to hit it more often. Always hear about Mizuno irons and now I'm a believer. Recently grabbed some Aeroburners to play and try as I wanted to get distance back, no way the feel and the thickness of the look was way off from the JPX's. I do stay with TM on woods and hybrids though love them and putter is a center shafter TM Ardmore red. May end up trying the M5 or M6 irons as they look real nice but thats a year or 2 away LOL
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I just try not to have gaps in distances. Just need to have a set that covers all from 80-180. Less than 80 is a partial something. More than 180 is potentially a lay up now. In the fairway with no trouble, no worries... rough and/or carrying water... another layup. When you play infrequently (once-twice/month), you need to have full shots for almost everything.
 
it's springtime, the start of yardsale season. skip the home depot trip, and hit one of those. you'll proally find a bag of billy barools for peanuts, formerly owned by the st. andrews club champion. go to the range, work thru the bag. lie to yourself, keep the dead, solid, perfect ones. use the others for tomato stakes, and the bag for a landscape tie. the pink and orange balls you found in big pocket? thro 'em in the ocean to prevent your mates from laughing even harder at your game. time well spent. goff, the dumbest sport on earth--we luv it.
 
uconnfan68 said:
I just try not to have gaps in distances. Just need to have a set that covers all from 80-180. Less than 80 is a partial something. More than 180 is potentially a lay up now. In the fairway with no trouble, no worries... rough and/or carrying water... another layup. When you play infrequently (once-twice/month), you need to have full shots for almost everything.
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Yeah agree 68. when I'm at the 180-200 point on a long 4 or 5 I have to feel really good to hit my 3 or 4 hybrid or I lay up. I was so inconsistent with my 4 wood I yanked it out of the bag and started the 19,22,25 hybrid deal. No woods other than driver occasionally can get home on short par 5's when tee game is good but at the same time feel like my wedge game is good enough to have a birdie putt most every time. You kjnow we have to adjust to our age unfortunately! LOL.....hit'em good 68!
 
mauconnfan said:
Yeah agree 68. when I'm at the 180-200 point on a long 4 or 5 I have to feel really good to hit my 3 or 4 hybrid or I lay up. I was so inconsistent with my 4 wood I yanked it out of the bag and started the 19,22,25 hybrid deal. No woods other than driver occasionally can get home on short par 5's when tee game is good but at the same time feel like my wedge game is good enough to have a birdie putt most every time. You kjnow we have to adjust to our age unfortunately! LOL.....hit'em good 68!
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Anxious to see if my new hip works...
 
Chin Diesel said:
A huge variable on the stopping power of wedges on greens is the ball you play. Spin rates on short shots vary way more than spin rates off the tee. Pretty much every ball is low spin off the tee now. Very little consumer demand for a higher spin ball on tee shots to work the ball left or right. Most golfers lack that skill and end up with hooks and slices. Long and straight is the mantra off the tee.

Urethane covered balls get real grippy on the face of a wedge and spin much higher than surlyn covered balls. Compression doesn't matter as much on the short shots. Unfortunately the urethane covered balls are at the high end of the price range for golf balls.

I played the Titleist NXT Tour for a few years until Titleist discontinued it. I recently tried a direct to consumer company, Cut Golf and their 4-piece Blue. It played real nice across my clubs- drivers, irons, around the green and putting. $24/dz including shipping. Vice and Snell golf make direct to consumer balls but are a bit pricier. The Kirkland Signature, aka K-Sig, has a big following too.

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Here's a spin rate graph to show how balls performed on a 50-yard pitch test from Golf Digest.

Spin the wheel: Hot List ball spin chart shows how short shots separate price categories - Golf Digest

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looks more like a results chart for where the ball ends up on that 30 inch 'gimme' putt, where the cup is the 28 black box, with a 'slight' bends right location. amateurs always miss on the low side. always. start practicing some new 'lies.'
 
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