I couldn’t find my last post about using clingan 5 Adama 4

[navery12]

So Furst is Samson Johnson? Again, Samson Johnson isn't avaliable to us...neither is Caleb Furst. Donovan Clingan is available to us.

Yes that's what I'm saying, not a perfect comparison but that's who Furst is most comparable to on the UConn team. It's not a relevant comparison to playing Clingan and Sanogo together

 

[superjohn]

But Sanogo isn’t good at guarding anyone on the perimeter. It’s a waste of his defensive talents and it means he’s going to get dinged with a million foul calls.

It’s not necessarily two bigs that’s a bad idea. It’s that both AS and DC are similar bigs - they’re more traditional 5’s who play best in the post and matchup defensively against the same type of player (and not well at all against stretch 5 types). Listing other teams that play a traditional center and one who can stretch the four is defeating your own point. It just doesn’t make sense overall you play them together.

Hurley seemed to have no problem playing two centers last year either so it’s not like he’s completely adverse to the idea

Then get Sanogo off the perimeter defenively all the time and start playing DC a lot more. With the way we're playing (scheming) defense these good coaches in the Big East are going to exploit us having no rim protection.

The only guy who stretches the floor out of Nunge, Freemantle, Edey, Furst, Ballo, and Tubelis is Nunge.

 

[superjohn]

Yes that's what I'm saying, not a perfect comparison but that's who Furst is most comparable to on the UConn team. It's not a relevant comparison to playing Clingan and Sanogo together

Dude, no players are the same. Furst shoots less threes than Sanogo and shoots them at a worse percentage than Sanogo. Neither Edey or Clingan shoot any.

Samson isn't avaliable to us and we still don't know how he'll play for us when he plays.

 

[navery12]

Dude, no players are the same. Furst shoots less threes than Sanogo and shoots them at a worse percentage than Sanogo. Neither Edey or Clingan shoot any.

Samson isn't avaliable to us and we still don't know how he'll play for us when he plays.

Exactly, so acting like Purdue playing Furst and Edey together means UConn should play Sanogo and Clingan together is stupid

 

[superjohn]

Exactly, so acting like Purdue playing Furst and Edey together means UConn should play Sanogo and Clingan together is stupid

What?

You're not making any sense.

 

[navery12]

What?

You're not making any sense.

You said no players are the same and I'm saying I agree, so using Purdue's lineups with Furst and Edey as some gotcha for why UConn should play Clingan and Sanogo together is stupid

 

[Huskyforlife]

You said no players are the same and I'm saying I agree, so using Purdue's lineups with Furst and Edey as some gotcha for why UConn should play Clingan and Sanogo together is stupid

Purdue would be so much better with Alex at the 4, which makes this conversation even funnier.

 

[uc1990]

You know how we would know if DC and Sanogo can be effective playing together… try it for a few minutes a game. Then we actually discuss it. I find it strange that we haven’t seen it(except for less than a minute I think in one game?) not sure how some can be so insistent that it wouldn’t work when we don’t know but every seemed to agree best players we have include both of them.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

Who are these fleet footed 4’s? If they exist then perhaps that is not when you use it. Ok to trust AS to chase guards and small forwards 30 feet from the hoop but can’t trust him to move his feet on a power forward 10 feet from the hoop? How many times is acceptable to get beat off the dribble like X did. AS not a rim protector. On Offense it has possibilities like discouraging the AS double team with DC lurking and doing his thing. We have not been driving to the rim with one big in so what are we clogging with two if we are not using the space now? Obviously (I think) Danny would deploy if it was ready but no doubt they are working on it and it will come out eventually. 40 minutes split not enough. Figure it out as an option.

Who are these fleet footed 4’s? If they exist then perhaps that is not when you use it.

nailed it!
im kinda disappointed on all this. i thought that by now, in a game where donno mostly just hung around the stripe flipping j's with adama underneath, that i'd see us mess them up on a play where adama is at the stripe with his back to the rim, and no look over the shoulder pass it high to the basket where donno would catch and smash it. crisscross. after that play, they wouldn't know whether to whizz or go shopping.

i guess that i'll have to wait awhile for broad enlightenment on his shooting prowess. right now, he'd shredd 8 footers. bunnies. not turn around j's, not dipsy doodle hook things, just plain old face to the hoop, catch, rise, release. splash.

 

[PAHusky]

You know how we would know if DC and Sanogo can be effective playing together… try it for a few minutes a game. Then we actually discuss it. I find it strange that we haven’t seen it(except for less than a minute I think in one game?) not sure how some can be so insistent that it wouldn’t work when we don’t know but every seemed to agree best players we have include both of them.

I don’t agree with the idea at all, as clearly evidenced in this thread, but I’m pretty sure Dan Hurley has considered it at least and has provably run that lineup out in practice. If he hasn’t, and they haven’t in games, sort of telling.

 

[UConnSwag11]

When Clingan went out in the second half and the starting unit came back in, Karaban got abused again, and Sanogo was getting taken away from the basket. Putting Sanogo and Clingan together for several minutes would allow us to dictate how Xavier needs to play instead of the other way around.

Xavier would’ve had to change how they run their offense with Sanogo being able to guard the perimeter and clingan guarding the paint. On the defensive end, it would leave Sanogo on Freemantle with Clingan able to rim run.

 

[superjohn]

You said no players are the same and I'm saying I agree, so using Purdue's lineups with Furst and Edey as some gotcha for why UConn should play Clingan and Sanogo together is stupid

There's no gotcha. Furst and Edey are bigs who play together. Ballo and Tubelis are bigs who play together. Freemantle and Nunge are bigs who play together. Sanogo and Clingan are bigs who don't play together.

Nunge is the only big who shoots more threes than Sanogo. Sanogo probably guards on the perimeter as much as any of them.

You brought up Samson who isn't available to us.

 

[superjohn]

Purdue would be so much better with Alex at the 4, which makes this conversation even funnier.

One of their big guys, Edey who plays most of the game protects the rim. Our big who plays most of the game doesn't protect the rim. We have a guy on the bench who I think protects the rim even better than Edey does.