I believe Fishy has been right all along

[Adios]

Apparently that has no value compared to past success (like pre-1990). Sad, but somewhat predictable. The ones on top by luck or history don't leave quietly. They shouldn't be planning on my paying to watch Rutgers, Syracuse, or BC, just because they are my "local" P5 teams.

Cincinnati is still around. Louisville was in C-USA for a while. For the time being, looks as if the NFL is even supporting the AAC. Saints are backing up Tulane.

Freaking Rutgers. C'mon. Didn't former SEC commish Roy Kramer say UConn has SEC-like fanbase potential after a feasibility study for football? Hello, B1G.

 

[uconNYC]

As bad as we all make out CR to be, it has pretty much helped every school in the country except UConn. All the original BE football schools are in a better position than they were when the conference first started.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Mike, the notion that the lawsuit hurt us significantly is a fallacy in my opinion. Name the votes that would have changed if we hadn't sued. .

For starters, John Swofford, Commish of the ACC. If we recall, the Blumenthal lawsuit named him personally as a defendant in the lawsuit. It can be assumed that if you are sued personally, ( whether the naming of you personally was warranted or not ) then later the person who sued you personally wants your support on something, the natural inclination for you is to not do so. Thats how I see the aftereffects on Blumenthal's lawsuit anyway. Now, having said this, if there was no lawsuit launnched ,do I believe that BC without the lawsuit would have had enormous power and influence to prevail upon all the other ACC Schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No , I don't see BC with the power and influence within the ACC to have kept Uconn out of the ACC... lawsuit or no lawsuit. BC does not have the power and influence in the ACC that from reading this board that many Uconn football fans apparently think that they do. The ACC just added Louisville, and whether BC wanted them in or not, was of no influence one way or the other, imo. Each school has one vote only, and the network executives have input, and a school needs at least 50% of the current league member school votes to get at invite. Thats true with all the p5 Conferences.

 

[Yawkey Way]

As bad as we all make out CR to be, it has pretty much helped every school in the country except UConn. All the original BE football schools are in a better position than they were when the conference first started.

Temple was a 13 year football member of the BE football league ( accepted into the BE in 1991). The BE football schools however voted to kick Temple to the curb in 2004, and so they were booted out of the BE. Temple ( also a school with a rich basketball history and tradition ) is also struggling to find their football position enhanced by all the conference realignments now.

 

[upstater]

For starters, John Swofford, Commish of the ACC. If we recall, the Blumenthal lawsuit named him personally as a defendant in the lawsuit. It can be assumed that if you are sued personally, ( whether the naming of you personally was warranted or not ) then later the person who sued you personally wants your support on something, the natural inclination for you is to not do so. Thats how I see the aftereffects on Blumenthal's lawsuit anyway. Now, having said this, if there was no lawsuit launnched ,do I believe that BC without the lawsuit would have had enormous power and influence to prevail upon all the other ACC Schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No , I don't see BC with the power and influence within the ACC to have kept Uconn out of the ACC... lawsuit or no lawsuit. BC does not have the power and influence in the ACC that from reading this board that many Uconn football fans apparently think that they do. The ACC just added Louisville, and whether BC wanted them in or not, was of no influence one way or the other, imo. Each school has one vote only, and the network executives have input, and a school needs at least 50% of the current league member school votes to get at invite. Thats true with all the p5 Conferences.

We've been over this 1000 times. Pitt was even more vociferous in the media. Syracuse had BOT members insulting BC's people at academic events.

 

[whaler11]

Temple was a 13 year football member of the BE football league ( accepted into the BE in 1991). The BE football schools however voted to kick Temple to the curb in 2004, and so they were booted out of the BE. Temple ( also a school with a rich basketball history and tradition ) is also struggling to find their football position enhanced by all the conference realignments now.

Why are you here?

 

[Yawkey Way]

Why are you here?

I 've explained this question 4 times previously now ( has been asked 4 times ) and thats sufficient times to explain it by now it seems to me. So I have no interest in explaining myself a 5th time now to you. That said, if you are interested in " why posters come here ", coincidentally, there was a thread started within 48 hours here, and if these reasons interest you, that thread has lots of posters explaining their myriad of reasons for " being on here ". Lots of different reasons given too..... including one poster who said he is interested in hearing of the thoughts of other posters not aligned directly with Uconn ( and he mentions BC, Rutgers, etc fans as one of those ). So thats my reply anyway on your question for me. By the way, why are you here ? I'm a bit nosy too re. this from you now.

 

[whaler11]

I 've explained this question 4 times ( has been asked 4 times ) and thats sufficient times to explain it ny now. So I have no interest in explaining myself a 5th time now to you. That said, if you are interested in " why posters come here ", coincidentally, there was a thread started within 48 hours here, and ifthose reasons interest you, that thread has lots of posters explaining their reasons for " being on here ". Lots of different reasons given too..... including one poster who said he is interested in hearing of the thoughts of other posters not aligned directly with Uconn ( and he mentions BC fans as one of those ). So thats my reply anyway on your question to me.

It was rhetorical, you are a BC fan who is here to kick UConn fans while they are down in conference realignment.

It's funny that Donald Sterling is the face of racism these days yet we have to endure someone invoking the name Yawkey bashing us.

I will let you in on a secret. I can't believe you haven't realized this yet.. no one anywhere cares about what the handful of BC fans think. You should read up, ACC fans figure if they ignore BC long enough you'll just disappear.

 

[Yawkey Way]

We've been over this 1000 times. Pitt was even more vociferous in the media. Syracuse had BOT members insulting BC's people at academic events.

Reps from schools say stuff all the time that are not complimentary about one another.The Syracuse BOD and Admin acted like Rip Van Winkle when the dominos fell after Miami announced it was leaving the BE. That stupidity and warning was apparently from reports told to them 1,000 times at the time by BC ( and Miami ) officials. It eventually cost Syracuse money, and almost cost them a spot in the ACC. Meanwhile, Syracuse was also wondering what in heavens name was Uconn thinking hiring a canned over the hill coach that wasn't good enough anymore for Syracuse, and said so publically over a 1,000 times as well. But so what ? Schools, coaches, AD's say uncomplimentary things all the time to one another on occasion. This is no revelation it seems to me.

 

[Yawkey Way]

It was rhetorical, you are a BC fan who is here to kick UConn fans while they are down in conference realignment.

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It is regrettable that you have interpreted ANY of my remarks on here since I've signed on to this site as " kicking Uconn fans while they are down in conference realighnment ". I genuinely have not come here to do this, and do not believe that a single one of my posts on here has been insulting, nor should be viewed in any manner as an attempt to kick you when you are down ". That said, if you believe I have been insulting, or attempting to kick you or Uconn when you are down, then my suggestion is for you to simply ignore my future occasional posts on here. This should satisfy your quest not to be insulted by me, and likewise allow me not have to try and defend something that is neither my intent, nor can be found in any of my postings on here, imo.

 

[Yawkey Way]

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I will let you in on a secret. I can't believe you haven't realized this yet.. no one anywhere cares about what the handful of BC fans think. .

This assessment of yours however is not entirely accurate. There is at least one Uconn fan poster on the " why are you here " thread, that states that one of the reasons he comes to this site is to hear what other fans are thinking, and he specifically mentions BC fans. Plus, you are of course interested in my remarks, as otherwise you would not have read them, nor then took the time to make a reply.

 

[whaler11]

It is regrettable that you have interpreted ANY of my remarks on here since I've signed on to this site as " kicking Uconn fans while they are down in conference realighnment ". I genuinely have not come here to do this, and do not believe that a single one of my posts on here has been insulting, nor should be viewed in any manner as an attempt to kick you when you are down ". That said, if you believe I have been insulting, or attempting to kick you or Uconn when you are down, then my suggestion is for you to simply ignore my future occasional posts on here. This should satisfy your quest not to be insulted by me, and likewise allow me not have to try and defend something that is neither my intent, nor can be found in any of my postings on here, imo.

You invoked Temple.

Thanks for your suggestion. My counter offer is for you to go c k yourself.

It's unfortunate that I can't stop you from posting. Hopefully the same people that allow you a platform allow me to keep pointing out you are a BC troll who adds nothing and for some reason doesn't understand that no college sports fans care in any way what a BC partisan thinks.

 

[whaler11]

This assessment of yours however is not entirely accurate. There is at least one Uconn fan poster on the " why are you here " thread, that states that one of the reasons he comes to this site is to hear what other fans are thinking, and he specifically mentions BC fans. Plus, you are of course interested in my remarks, as otherwise you would not have read them, nor then took the time to make a reply.

I just read that pointless thread from a women's basketball fan in Texas and don't see a single post that even alludes to what you are saying.

 

[Yawkey Way]

You invoked Temple.

Thanks for your suggestion. My counter offer is for you to go yourself.

It's unfortunate that I can't stop you from posting. Hopefully the same people that allow you a platform allow me to keep pointing out you are a BC troll who adds nothing and for some reason doesn't understand that no college sports fans care in any way what a BC partisan thinks.

I don't believe in bannings nor censorship unless there is a clear and indisputable attempt to cause harm and damage and the posting is personally insulting. But this is not my site. So I do appreciate the moderators here providing me an opportunity to express my opinions, and that I could be removed at any time for crossing the established guidelines. You are entitled to call me names, ie " BC troll". I believe I am likewise entiltled to defend that attack ( or ignore it ). I will attempt to ignore your posts from here on in if it appears that you are not interested in anything I post here on occasion. I suggest you might want to do the same. This way neither of us can be bothered by the other from now on.

 

[whaler11]

I don't believe in bannings nor censorship unless there is a clear and indisputable attempt to cause harm and damage and the posting is personally insulting. But this is not my site. So I do appreciate the moderators here providing me an opportunity to express my opinions, and that I could be removed at any time for crossing the established guidelines. You are entitled to call me names, ie " BC troll". I believe I am likewise entiltled to defend that attack ( or ignore it ). I will attempt to ignore your posts from here on in if it appears that you are not interested in anything I post here on occasion. I suggest you might want to do the same. This way neither of us can be bothered by the other from now on.

Ignore. Defend. Whatever.

A BC troll is a BC troll is a BC troll.

There is not a reason in the world for you to be here other than the only thing in the world BC can beat UConn at is conference realignment.

Sure BC is in a league. They are the Springfield Monorail of the ACC.

You may have done some good for UConn though. I have a strong urge to donate to the hockey program to contribute to UConn beating BC at their only competence.

 

[upstater]

Reps from schools say stuff all the time that are not complimentary about one another.The Syracuse BOD and Admin acted like Rip Van Winkle when the dominos fell after Miami announced it was leaving the BE. That stupidity and warning was apparently from reports told to them 1,000 times at the time by BC ( and Miami ) officials. It eventually cost Syracuse money, and almost cost them a spot in the ACC. Meanwhile, Syracuse was also wondering what in heavens name was Uconn thinking hiring a canned over the hill coach that wasn't good enough anymore for Syracuse, and said so publically over a 1,000 times as well. But so what ? Schools, coaches, AD's say uncomplimentary things all the time to one another on occasion. This is no revelation it seems to me.

Don't get off your original point about the invective creating personal situation in regards to the suit. Your above post deflects and moves away to all sorts of stuff about Pasqualoni. This wasn't about the school either. It was about your President being called a LIAR in front of his peers.

 

[uconndogs]

I don't believe in bannings nor censorship unless there is a clear and indisputable attempt to cause harm and damage and the posting is personally insulting. But this is not my site. So I do appreciate the moderators here providing me an opportunity to express my opinions, and that I could be removed at any time for crossing the established guidelines. You are entitled to call me names, ie " BC troll". I believe I am likewise entiltled to defend that attack ( or ignore it ). I will attempt to ignore your posts from here on in if it appears that you are not interested in anything I post here on occasion. I suggest you might want to do the same. This way neither of us can be bothered by the other from now on.

duck*ing exhausting............and tone deaf..........

 

[buddy]

For starters, John Swofford, Commish of the ACC. If we recall, the Blumenthal lawsuit named him personally as a defendant in the lawsuit. It can be assumed that if you are sued personally, ( whether the naming of you personally was warranted or not ) then later the person who sued you personally wants your support on something, the natural inclination for you is to not do so. Thats how I see the aftereffects on Blumenthal's lawsuit anyway. Now, having said this, if there was no lawsuit launnched ,do I believe that BC without the lawsuit would have had enormous power and influence to prevail upon all the other ACC Schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No , I don't see BC with the power and influence within the ACC to have kept Uconn out of the ACC... lawsuit or no lawsuit. BC does not have the power and influence in the ACC that from reading this board that many Uconn football fans apparently think that they do. The ACC just added Louisville, and whether BC wanted them in or not, was of no influence one way or the other, imo. Each school has one vote only, and the network executives have input, and a school needs at least 50% of the current league member school votes to get at invite. Thats true with all the p5 Conferences.

For starters, John Swofford, Commish of the ACC. If we recall, the Blumenthal lawsuit named him personally as a defendant in the lawsuit. It can be assumed that if you are sued personally, ( whether the naming of you personally was warranted or not ) then later the person who sued you personally wants your support on something, the natural inclination for you is to not do so. Thats how I see the aftereffects on Blumenthal's lawsuit anyway. Now, having said this, if there was no lawsuit launnched ,do I believe that BC without the lawsuit would have had enormous power and influence to prevail upon all the other ACC Schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No , I don't see BC with the power and influence within the ACC to have kept Uconn out of the ACC... lawsuit or no lawsuit. BC does not have the power and influence in the ACC that from reading this board that many Uconn football fans apparently think that they do. The ACC just added Louisville, and whether BC wanted them in or not, was of no influence one way or the other, imo. Each school has one vote only, and the network executives have input, and a school needs at least 50% of the current league member school votes to get at invite. Thats true with all the p5 Conferences.

One school, one vote. However, one school (BC) lobbying their friends (Miami, FSU, Clemson all come to mind) indeed can sway a vote. The initial plan to have UConn join the ACC with Syracuse, instead of Pitt was squashed by BC. You cannot deny it. Wake up! BC is the enemy.

 

[CL82]

For starters, John Swofford, Commish of the ACC. If we recall, the Blumenthal lawsuit named him personally as a defendant in the lawsuit. It can be assumed that if you are sued personally, ( whether the naming of you personally was warranted or not ) then later the person who sued you personally wants your support on something, the natural inclination for you is to not do so. Thats how I see the aftereffects on Blumenthal's lawsuit anyway. Now, having said this, if there was no lawsuit launnched ,do I believe that BC without the lawsuit would have had enormous power and influence to prevail upon all the other ACC Schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No , I don't see BC with the power and influence within the ACC to have kept Uconn out of the ACC... lawsuit or no lawsuit. BC does not have the power and influence in the ACC that from reading this board that many Uconn football fans apparently think that they do. The ACC just added Louisville, and whether BC wanted them in or not, was of no influence one way or the other, imo. Each school has one vote only, and the network executives have input, and a school needs at least 50% of the current league member school votes to get at invite. Thats true with all the p5 Conferences.

Excellent point, well excellent except for the fact that UConn was the original target to go along with 'Cuse. So that seems like Swofford wasn't off pouting about his hurt feelings over UConn, pretty much the way you'd expect an adult to act. The narrative is very well documented and very well known on this board. Why do keep coming back with your fantasy version of what happened?

I'm not trying to be insulting but how old are you? You seem to lack a real world perspective to your posts.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Don't get off your original point about the invective creating personal situation in regards to the suit. Your above post deflects and moves away to all sorts of stuff about Pasqualoni. This wasn't about the school either. It was about your President being called a LIAR in front of his peers.

I have no knowledge of this event, but will accept your info without challenge that during thus time some heated words were exchanged to BC .Moving forward, it appears that both Syracuse officials and BC officials have buried their past differences with one another, as Syracuse came up for an ACC invite later, and BC apparently disregarded this alleged incident of having the BC President being called " a liar" as this same BC President later voted " yes " for Syracuse's invite to the ACC. I don't sense any remaining animosity between the 2 school administrations now, but then again, nobody in the press is present when these 2 schools get together and talk with one another, so who really knows if what was reported transpired in these meetings as alleged. But I 'll accept your version of it. Its old news now anyway.

 

[upstater]

I have no knowledge of this event, but will accept your info without challenge that during thus time some heated words were exchanged to BC .Moving forward, it appears that both Syracuse officials and BC officials have buried their differences since this alleged tongue lashing that you brought up here took place, as Syracuse came up for an ACC invite later, and BC buried the hatchet and voted " yes " for Syracuse's invite to the ACC. I don't sense any remaining animosity between the 2 school administrations now, but then again, nobody in the press is present when these 2 schools get together and talk with one another, so who really knows if what was reported transpired in these meetings as alleged. But I 'll accept your version of it. Its old news now anyway.

Or there was no hatchet to bury because it was no big deal in the first place. Which is my original point countering yours.

And nothing is alleged here since the info is first hand information posted by one of the principals involved. It's not a rumor or hearsay.

 

[Yawkey Way]

Or there was no hatchet to bury because it was no big deal in the first place.
.

Sounds about right to me.

 

[upstater]

Sounds about right to me.

Which is what many of us have been saying about the lawsuit for a long long time.

 

[Yawkey Way]

One school, one vote. However, one school (BC) lobbying their friends (Miami, FSU, Clemson all come to mind) indeed can sway a vote. The initial plan to have UConn join the ACC with Syracuse, instead of Pitt was squashed by BC. You cannot deny it. Wake up! BC is the enemy.

Perhaps BC does wield all this enormous power and influence among all the other member schools within the ACC to prevail upon the league to get their wishes met... but I just don't see it. My guess, if Swofford ( and ND ) wanted Uconn in the ACC, little ol BC couldn't stop it. But then again, who knows.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Perhaps BC does wield all this enormous power and influence among all the other member schools within the ACC to prevail upon the league to get their wishes met... but I just don't see it. My guess, if Swofford ( and ND ) wanted Uconn in the ACC, little ol BC couldn't stop it. But then again, who knows.

Shut up.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Cincinnati is still around. Louisville was in C-USA for a while. For the time being, looks as if the NFL is even supporting the AAC. Saints are backing up Tulane.

Freaking Rutgers. C'mon. Didn't former SEC commish Roy Kramer say UConn has SEC-like fanbase potential after a feasibility study for football? Hello, B1G.[/quote
I like to compare The UConn fan base as similar in potential to Nebraskas
I guess it would be similar to an SEC teams ,only much more polite.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Yawkey 's way is amazing.
He actually got a Fishy,Whaler! Upstater,and Nelson on the same side.

 

[Pudge]

For starters, John Swofford, Commish of the ACC. If we recall, the Blumenthal lawsuit named him personally as a defendant in the lawsuit. It can be assumed that if you are sued personally, ( whether the naming of you personally was warranted or not ) then later the person who sued you personally wants your support on something, the natural inclination for you is to not do so. Thats how I see the aftereffects on Blumenthal's lawsuit anyway. Now, having said this, if there was no lawsuit launnched ,do I believe that BC without the lawsuit would have had enormous power and influence to prevail upon all the other ACC Schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC ? No , I don't see BC with the power and influence within the ACC to have kept Uconn out of the ACC... lawsuit or no lawsuit. BC does not have the power and influence in the ACC that from reading this board that many Uconn football fans apparently think that they do. The ACC just added Louisville, and whether BC wanted them in or not, was of no influence one way or the other, imo. Each school has one vote only, and the network executives have input, and a school needs at least 50% of the current league member school votes to get at invite. Thats true with all the p5 Conferences.

I know this is the BC view of the world ...

But it was NOT the Blumenthal lawsuit. In fact, the key Principals in making decisions were Presidents - West Virginia and Pittsburgh (and, in fact, Mark Nordenberg was the President when Pitt was taken to the ACC). This Blumenthal obsession is yours.

And, BC? I think they openly verbalized their desire to block UConn. And, if that is NOT what they had the power to do ... as you claim ... then I think vocal/media attention earns the campus in Chestnut Hill scorn. They just suck ... and they are far less than us in Sports.

 

[Yawkey Way]

I know this is the BC view of the world ...

But it was NOT the Blumenthal lawsuit. In fact, the key Principals in making decisions were Presidents - West Virginia and Pittsburgh (and, in fact, Mark Nordenberg was the President when Pitt was taken to the ACC). This Blumenthal obsession is yours.

And, BC? I think they openly verbalized their desire to block UConn. And, if that is NOT what they had the power to do ... as you claim ... then I think vocal/media attention earns the campus in Chestnut Hill scorn. They just suck ... and they are far less than us in Sports.

I don't think there is a " BC view of the world " as there is rarely any monolithic thinking among any fanbase or school admin.. including that naturally with Uconn as well. People disagree on things, events, even within fanbases and within the ranks of each school's Admin. ( one read of the Boneyard easily convinces one of that plurality of diverse thoughts on things ) There can not be much dispute that the creation and impetus for the BE lawsuit upon the ACC , Swofford, its school Presidents, etc had its beginnings from within the Atty. General's Office within the state of Connecticut. It is also factually verifiable that indeed BC did express its wishes that it did not, does not, want Uconn in the ACC ( I disagree with the school's official position on this, and I am not alone among the BC fanbase, but am in the minority on this within the BC fanbase ). It is my doubt however that BC has ever had the power and influence to prevail upon the other ACC schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC. If Swofford and his other ACC Board members wanted Uconn in the ACC, it is my opinion that BC could not have prevented this ... nor even now, can BC prevent this. If you disagree witht his assessment, thats fine too.. no problem.

 

[upstater]

I don't think there is a " BC view of the world " as there is rarely any monolithic thinking among any fanbase or school admin.. including that naturally with Uconn as well. People disagree on things, events, even within fanbases and within the ranks of each school's Admin. ( one read of the Boneyard easily convinces one of that plurality of diverse thoughts on things ) There can not be much dispute that the creation and impetus for the BE lawsuit upon the ACC , Swofford, its school Presidents, etc had its beginnings from within the Atty. General's Office within the state of Connecticut. It is also factually verifiable that indeed BC did express its wishes that it did not, does not, want Uconn in the ACC ( I disagree with the school's official position on this, and I am not alone among the BC fanbase, but am in the minority on this within the BC fanbase ). It is my doubt however that BC has ever had the power and influence to prevail upon the other ACC schools to keep Uconn out of the ACC. If Swofford and his other ACC Board members wanted Uconn in the ACC, it is my opinion that BC could not have prevented this ... nor even now, can BC prevent this. If you disagree witht his assessment, thats fine too.. no problem.

This is never how things work in committee. You never go against someone's interests if it's not a do-or-die issue for you. UConn was easily replaceable by Pitt. So they didn't bother squelching BC. That's how it played out. I've seen this same scenario over and over again. People don't step on each other's turf unless it's going to be a problem for the other members as a whole, and clearly Pitt was a good alternative for them. Again, I don't know why you persist: this has been said 1,000 times.