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They may not have been born great shooters but unless you are born with a great deal of talent no amount of work will turn you into a great player. I offer myself as an example. I averaged about a dozen hours a week for over 30 years trying to become a great putter and chipper. I enjoyed every minute of it. But except for a handful of memorable moments over those 30 years I never achieved greatness, near greatness or anything hinting at greatness. I would leave the practice area filled with confidence but my talent always betrayed me sooner or later.

You seem to be implying that Nika simply doesn't work hard enough on her shooting. Got anything to support that view?
If I may, There are many more variables involved in putting.
I caddied a bazillion rounds (exaggeration), made good doe, but learned to dislike the game ( the players).
Was certainly the club I looped at .
Private- snotty, entitled.
Caddie- “your shadow is in my lie..”
Caddie-“you moved..”
Caddie/ “ you didn’t move the rake..”
Caddie—have lunch on me at the turn-.50..
 
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If I may, There are many more variables involved in putting.
I caddied a bazillion rounds (exaggeration), made good doe, but learned to dislike the game ( the players).
Was certainly the club I looped at .
Private- snotty, entitled.
Caddie- “your shadow is in my lie..”
Caddie-“you moved..”
Caddie/ “ you didn’t move the rake..”
Caddie—have lunch on me at the turn-.50..

When I was 10 I moved where there was a public course a short walk from my back yard, and it became my playground. I scrouged for lost balls, sold lemonade and caddied there. Played my first round on a par 3 as an 18yo. Learned on the worst course in the world (Lisbon Country Club). Joined the public course I lived near and was a member at some club or another for 40 years till my knees betrayed me. Still have my clubs near the front door though as hope springs eternal.
 

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They may not have been born great shooters but unless you are born with a great deal of talent no amount of work will turn you into a great player. I offer myself as an example. I averaged about a dozen hours a week for over 30 years trying to become a great putter and chipper. I enjoyed every minute of it. But except for a handful of memorable moments over those 30 years I never achieved greatness, near greatness or anything hinting at greatness. I would leave the practice area filled with confidence but my talent always betrayed me sooner or later.

You seem to be implying that Nika simply doesn't work hard enough on her shooting. Got anything to support that view?
I'm not implying anything. In support of my point of view Nika is about to start her junior year and she has "recently" (as in this summer) started to work on a pull up jumper off the dribble as documented in one of the early practice videos posted here. Shooting off the dribble is not exactly a trivia basketball skill to become proficient at.
In her two season at UCONN thus far Nika has attempted 225 FGA of which 8 were what we would refer to as mid range= Not layups nor 3pt FG attempts. In her first two season Nika is a 50% FT shooter. If Nika is indeed putting in the shooting work required to be more of a legitimate offensive thread the results and the confidence are simply not there thus far. If the work was being put in I also don't think Geno would have gone public with the need for Nika to improve.
 
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If I may, There are many more variables involved in putting.
I caddied a bazillion rounds (exaggeration), made good doe, but learned to dislike the game ( the players).
Was certainly the club I looped at .
Private- snotty, entitled.
Caddie- “your shadow is in my lie..”
Caddie-“you moved..”
Caddie/ “ you didn’t move the rake..”
Caddie—have lunch on me at the turn-.50..

Yes, 30% of putting is hand-eye coordination and the rest is mental. I've witnessed some unbelievable displays under pressure and saw a guy hit three 30'ers in a row a half hour after sunset, wearing sun glasses on a course he was playing for the first time. I later accused the guy of making a deal with the devil. :)
 
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It's a bit like global warming -- I'd rather hear that it's caused by people (like Soylent Green) because then we might be able to do something about it. If Nika hasn't been working on her shooting the past two years -- and some of her moves in the lane really look like that may be the case -- then I'm even more optimistic about the progress she might make this summer once this has become a focus.

In reality, I have no opinion or knowledge about what sort of work Nika has put into developing her offense this summer or any past summer. I just hope she comes back having made some improvement. I hope the same for Ayanna, Aubrey, Caroline, Lou (with respect to defense), Amari, Aaliyah, and Dorka. Ice seems to be the closest to what we need her to be as a freshman.
 
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When I was 10 I moved where there was a public course a short walk from my back yard, and it became my playground. I scrouged for lost balls, sold lemonade and caddied there. Played my first round on a par 3 as an 18yo. Learned on the worst course in the world (Lisbon Country Club). Joined the public course I lived near and was a member at some club or another for 40 years till my knees betrayed me. Still have my clubs near the front door though as hope springs eternal.
So the other day I’m working in Brentwood and struck up a conversation with a man in his late 70s to mid 80s. I told him I was think about learning to golf. He said he could give me a few pointers and might even have a set of clubs I could have. He told me he once owned a golf company however he sold it some years ago. His name is Roger Cleveland. I went home and googled him.
I had no idea. Wow!
 
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When I was 10 I moved where there was a public course a short walk from my back yard, and it became my playground. I scrouged for lost balls, sold lemonade and caddied there. Played my first round on a par 3 as an 18yo. Learned on the worst course in the world (Lisbon Country Club). Joined the public course I lived near and was a member at some club or another for 40 years till my knees betrayed me. Still have my clubs near the front door though as hope springs eternal.
I used to play at Lisbon. Painted houses for dad and at 4:00 zoomed over to get 9 holes in before dark. Mismatched clubs and no instruction, but loved it to pieces. Drove by it the other day and you’d never know there was a course there.
 

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So the other day I’m working in Brentwood and struck up a conversation with a man in his late 70s to mid 80s. I told him I was think about learning to golf. He said he could give me a few pointers and might even have a set of clubs I could have. He told me he once owned a golf company however he sold it some years ago. His name is Roger Cleveland. I went home and googled him.
I had no idea. Wow!
Should have taken the clubs, might have been a new set of Clevelands.
 
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I used to play at Lisbon. Painted houses for dad and at 4:00 zoomed over to get 9 holes in before dark. Mismatched clubs and no instruction, but loved it to pieces. Drove by it the other day and you’d never know there was a course there.

In the early 70's I would go there in the morning and they had a play-all-day deal for $4.00 during the week. I'd rent a mismatched set for $2.00 more and play 27 in the morning and 18 in the afternoon before the leagues showed up. When I ran out of balls I'd take a walk into the bushes, find a half dozen playable balls and keep playing.
 

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Shooting off the dribble is not exactly a trivia basketball skill to become proficient at.
In her two season at UCONN thus far Nika has attempted 225 FGA of which 8 were what we would refer to as mid range= Not layups nor 3pt FG attempts.
As I said many times. Especially the fact that proficiency at the pull up game doesn't come over night, and I just don't see her being Steve Nash during this or any of her remaining seasons. At this point, as I said before, I'd just like to see her shoot over screens and be more consistent with her layups. Give the defense a little something more to think about.
 
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As I said many times. Especially the fact that proficiency at the pull up game doesn't come over night, and I just don't see her being Steve Nash during this or any of her remaining seasons. At this point, as I said before, I'd just like to see her shoot over screens and be more consistent with her layups. Give the defense a little something more to think about.
Two half court skills I consider essential for a point guard beyond passing are finishing drives at the rim and a midrange jump shot. Ideally this jump shot would come after a dribble or two or maybe a jabstep. It’s possible to play pg without these skills, but effective passing will be greatly reduced.

For example, flashing through the lane can force perimeter defenders to help post defenders, thereby leaving a perimeter shooter open. But this only works if opposing teams consider you a threat to score, or at least to launch a credible shot. If they don’t, this becomes a fruitless exercise.

Another value of occasionally attempting to score off a drive is the much greater likelihood of getting fouled and going to the line. An effective pg should ideally be a good free throw shooter, and should be adept at creating foul so as to get opposing bigs in foul trouble.

These are all skills that Paige and Azzi display in abundance. Even Ines showed these skills in high school. A guard who lacks these skills could be a useful 2, if they can shoot effectively from the perimeter. They might also be able to contribute at the 3 if they are strong enough to box out in the paint and fight for rebounds.
 

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Two half court skills I consider essential for a point guard beyond passing are finishing drives at the rim and a midrange jump shot. Ideally this jump shot would come after a dribble or two or maybe a jabstep. It’s possible to play pg without these skills, but effective passing will be greatly reduced.

For example, flashing through the lane can force perimeter defenders to help post defenders, thereby leaving a perimeter shooter open. But this only works if opposing teams consider you a threat to score, or at least to launch a credible shot. If they don’t, this becomes a fruitless exercise.

Another value of occasionally attempting to score off a drive is the much greater likelihood of getting fouled and going to the line. An effective pg should ideally be a good free throw shooter, and should be adept at creating foul so as to get opposing bigs in foul trouble.

These are all skills that Paige and Azzi display in abundance. Even Ines showed these skills in high school. A guard who lacks these skills could be a useful 2, if they can shoot effectively from the perimeter. They might also be able to contribute at the 3 if they are strong enough to box out in the paint and fight for rebounds.
All things I've said about Nika many times over the course of the last year. Indeed, I was one of the very first to note Nika's aversion to pull ups, especially in the chats. I also noted the many advantages you've stated above in using a good pull up and finishing at the rim. I stopped saying these things simply because I started to sound as if I were whining, and even I grew tired of it.
 
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All things I've said about Nika many times over the course of the last year. Indeed, I was one of the very first to note Nika's aversion to pull ups, especially in the chats. I also noted the many advantages you've stated above in using a good pull up and finishing at the rim. I stopped saying these things simply because I started to sound as if I were whining, and even I grew tired of it.
You are not whining and you should not have grown tired so easily because those that don't know the importance of it will consider you getting tired a victory. ;)
 
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Again, just thinking about the Stewie/Dolson team and how quick the ball movement in the half court offense was. They would also pass into the paint with no fear of getting double teamed there. They could always pass out, or go to the rim, or look for an interior pass. It was like clockwork, no confusion or dead ends, no picking up the dribble in the lane and looking for a bailout in a panic while 3 seconds tick away. Everyone was on the same page.

That is the half court game I want to see this year.
 
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Two half court skills I consider essential for a point guard beyond passing are finishing drives at the rim and a midrange jump shot. Ideally this jump shot would come after a dribble or two or maybe a jabstep. It’s possible to play pg without these skills, but effective passing will be greatly reduced.

For example, flashing through the lane can force perimeter defenders to help post defenders, thereby leaving a perimeter shooter open. But this only works if opposing teams consider you a threat to score, or at least to launch a credible shot. If they don’t, this becomes a fruitless exercise.

Another value of occasionally attempting to score off a drive is the much greater likelihood of getting fouled and going to the line. An effective pg should ideally be a good free throw shooter, and should be adept at creating foul so as to get opposing bigs in foul trouble.

These are all skills that Paige and Azzi display in abundance. Even Ines showed these skills in high school. A guard who lacks these skills could be a useful 2, if they can shoot effectively from the perimeter. They might also be able to contribute at the 3 if they are strong enough to box out in the paint and fight for rebounds.
These are all good points. I think in terms of passing ability and instincts, Nika is on a par with Paige. The huge difference is in the abilities Paige has that Nika does not, as you mention. A great point guard that gets a ton of assists has to do it largely by penetrating and making the defense react. Hanging around the perimeter and making a sound passes when someone gets open might result in decent assist numbers and lower turnovers, but to be among the leaders in assists you have to make things happen.

So far Nika has not taken that step, but Geno has pointed out she can get into the lane pretty easily. It is not clear how much of her reluctance is self-imposed and how much is per Geno's instructions. What I suspect is that if Geno gave her the green light, and even encouraged her to penetrate, several things would happen.

IMO she would have plenty of great passes to interior players for easy point-blank shots and quite a few open looks from outside from our talented 3pt shooters. What would probably come with it, however, could be more turnovers than Geno could live with, and a relatively poor ability to finish herself.

As Bone dog has pointed out Paige has a great ability to finish at the rim, and a pull-up jumper. She has to be stopped from getting to the rim, opening up great passing opportunities. Nika who has similar passing abilities will not see as many open passing opportunities because she can be played for the pass, don't help off your man, make her show she can finish etc.

I have no idea how much progress she can make in those areas, but feel it is a shame that her passing talents go largely to waste because of the other downsides to her driving. If her % finishing on her own could reach a passable level, and the turnovers just a little higher than Geno is used to, I would like to see Geno turn her loose a little because the other players would benefit. If it turns out the downside is too great, then she resumes her role as a defensive specialist who pretty much just shoots open threes.

It would also help Nika's game if there was a concerted effort to pick up the pace and fast break more. For several years we have been an average team on pace, only really pushing it off turnovers. As the presumably starting point guard as opposed to part of the mix, there might be an effort to tilt the style more towards her strengths a little, perhaps potentially aided by a deeper bench allowing more regular rest and more breaking and pressing.
 
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It is not clear how much of her reluctance is self-imposed and how much is per Geno's instructions.
This is a good question. I can remember a couple of games in the second half of last season in which they ran a play to get Nika an open midrange jump shot. Liv or Aaliyah would set a screen at the foul line and Nika took a pass, dribbled twice and fired. Her shooting form looked like a "work in progress," but it was clear this was a project that was getting some attention in practice even last spring. She probably needs to work on the basic form of a jump shot -- she has a good standing set shot -- the footwork, bringing the ball up above her head, the stroke, releasing at the top of the jump, and so on. But these are all things that improve with practice. Make a few of those early in the season and her confidence will surely skyrocket... as will Geno's.
 
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In the early 70's I would go there in the morning and they had a play-all-day deal for $4.00 during the week. I'd rent a mismatched set for $2.00 more and play 27 in the morning and 18 in the afternoon before the leagues showed up. When I ran out of balls I'd take a walk into the bushes, find a half dozen playable balls and keep playing.
Ahhh, the life! excuse me I just went off on a day dream. I'm back now.
 
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I think in terms of passing ability and instincts, Nika is on a par with Paige.
Oldhuskie, I read through the rest of your post and agree with virtually all of it, but you lost me with that first comment. Nika has the passing ability and instincts of Paige? Pardon, but in her dreams!

I'd definitely agree that, with improvement in the areas we all have been discussing, she'd have more opportunities to find open teammates, thus benefiting the team.
 

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You are not whining and you should not have grown tired so easily because those that don't know the importance of it will consider you getting tired a victory. ;)
You're correct. But I also stated at one point in the season that it may be perceived, by others as well as myself, as wasted effort, and that from that point on during the season I would only encourage her to do whatever it takes to win. Once the season was over I then stated a bunch of things that I thought she should do to improve her game, what effect these improvements would have on her and the team, and then I was done. At this point, when it comes to this board, I really only comment when I think I have something to contribute rather than merely having something to say.
 

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I just love all these Nika haters, she can't do this, she can't do that, jada, jada, jada. Geno has stated many times in the past two years that the team is much better with her on the floor. So I'm going to go with the person that has led UConn with the help of CD to winning 11 NC's in lieu of listening to the whiners.

Yes Geno has insisted that Nika become more of an all around player, but stated it more because of the loss of Paige. She has also stated that she needs to improve her short range shooting for the betterment of the team, because of the loss of Paige.

I do believe that this team would not have gotten as far as they did without Nika being part of the UConn team, over the past two years.
 
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