Exactly, earlier in this thread I posted a play-by-play analysis, looking for possessions where Reed touched the ball, or was open to receive the ball.
Glad I’m not the only one who sees this. It also results in him getting the ball way outside of the low block, forcing him to start backing his guy down in a very inefficient spot on the court.
I don't know. Maybe Marquette made adjustments with quicker doubles on Reed where he didn't have the position or space he had early on. I feel like they look for him every possession, multiple times. The issue is, often times when you do give it to him and he doesn't have position, he throws up an awkward shot or fumbles it out of bounds. I haven't watched the replay so I can't say for sure either way.
Reed can be plain terrible or great at different times in the same game. Even if he doesn’t seal well, in the situation we were in you have to stretch the floor from bottom off the key to outside the arc. It was a simple as having him work off the blocks with Ross working in a 10foot radius screening the rotating drop down defender in the 2-2-1, and loading on side. You put the ball in low and either kick the ball out, go to hole, or have Ross’s slashing down for a dump or ready to cleani anything on the glass. We run a super complex offense with spread movement that actually put players right into the teeth of that zone. We are so bought into what we do, we can’t make basic adjustments to it.
Haven’t sat in a game chat in years because of this.
The Reed foul was a lousy call. But you act like there is consistency. There isn’t. I have a couple of friends who are retired refs at the D3 level. They always say you try to be consistent but you do make different calls at different times. The foul call you make in the middle of the first half you might not make in a battle under the basket in the closing seconds. And you see it all the time in every sport. Refs, like everyone else want to see games won by players when possible. That is just the way it goes so unless it is a really brutal foul it is not likely to be called.
Oh! Absolutely
I hate the logic of let the players decide it. When you don't make a call you are literally letting one team decide it while not the other. it's not letting the players decide it. It's the refs deciding not to let the players decide it. you foul you foul end of story. Who cares when. Letting a team get away with something is not letting the players decide it fairly
Maybe they shouldn't have put themselves in that position against one of the worst team in the Big East? Stop making excuses. We didn't play well enough. Period.
Close enough. Hurley won't get the benefit of the doubt with his reputation.
Bet the Knicks / Pat Riley would have wished they told John Starks to stop shooting in game 7 of the 94 finals when he went 2-18.
If he didn’t bump him, no.
The Big East continuing to bilk UConn. The conference's cash cow gets no respect.
Exactly, thanks and much credit for you objectivity. No joke. I am one of the biggest Hurley defenders here, absolutely love the guy, but the rationalizing is off the meter from a few people. Someone showed a screenshot earlier of Hurley in John Gaffney's face and then a GIF of the same thing and there was a post to the effect of "I have watched this several times and I don't see contact.". Really? That's the reaction to that? Whether there was actual contact or not, and I know you believe there was, that's just splitting hairs and trying to sanitize what he did. Hurley was so close to Gaffney anyone would be hard pressed slide a loose strand of hair between the two. The rationalizing for Hurley is like the few PC fans, not the majority, that said Duncan Powell was going for the ball at first but Hopkins leaned into him.
I'm going to hold onto one last shred of possibilities with Hurley, and that he felt this team, that could be flat so often, needed a toss going into the post season. Maybe that toss rallies them.
St. John's will be pulling for Butler to defeat PC for sure and they would want Creighton rather than Seton Hall. PC and Seton Hall will play St. John's tough if those match ups materialize. If St. John's gets Butler I don't think they will have any problems with them-they dispatched Butler easily both times they played. They won't have any issues defeating Creighton. Stylistically Creighton does not match up well with St. John's ever since Pitino took over St. John's.
I mean, getting tossed with the game essentially being over isn’t that bold of a move.
Or maybe, and hear me out here, it wasn't rationalizing but we saw a bad look and no contact between Hurley and the ref. The Big East has hated Hurley's treatment of the refs for years and called it out multiple times. John Gaffney himself despises Dan Hurley and has made him public enemy #1 yet he also said Dan Hurley didn't make contact.
Sure that's fine and a reasonable take and maybe that is what Hurley's objective was. If that was his objective, time will tell if that works. I will say it again, I love Hurley. My issue isn't so much with Hurley, although he shouldn't have gotten in Gaffney's face like that. It's when people are rationalizing and splitting hairs about whether he "made contact" with Gaffney after seeing the screenshot, GIF, and/or video. It's besides the point and semantical nonsense. If the Big East decided to suspend him, they would be within their rights to do so and no one could reasonably object to it. I am glad he did not get suspended.
