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upstater said:
This should be easy in the fall, harder over the summer, if that's what's required
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I didn't think of that needing to happen for the summer but it's probably true. Could be why they gave the August 1 date once summer sessions end
 
superjohn said:
I originally thought there would be a major spike from the protests but I no longer think so. I went to a bunch of protests in Chicago, there were thousands of people and I never saw anyone without a mask on except for the cops. My friend in LA said the same thing in his city. All the mask wearing and everything being outside should leave us in an okay spot. I haven't even seen any evidence there's any significant transmission outside. These protests were about a month ago, we should be seeing a major spike by now if it was going to happen and we haven't even with the increased testing and phase 4 starting a week ago. I do think we'll probably see a little spike with phase 4 but it will be manageable. It's as clear as day that masks are everything.
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www.bostonglobe.com

Baker overstated the number of protesters who tested positive for COVID - The Boston Globe

The state’s new disclosure shows that of 16,526 tests conducted across the 50-plus pop-up testing sites, about 1.3 percent came back positive.
www.bostonglobe.com www.bostonglobe.com

Let's put this protest issue to bed. ~1.5% of protesters tested in Massachusetts were positive. Anecdotally, the vast majority wore masks.

Mask wearing is a ticket to the possibility of fans in the stands at sporting events at some point this coming year.
 
navery12 said:
From the article in the Register, seems to an issue with online classes:

The Toronto product needs to be registered in a course that is not completely online before obtaining his I-20 form to get to America. That means finding a course and a professor at UConn that would fit that need. Brown-Fergson would only need to have one in-person session with the professor, and the rest could be done online.
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JimHurley said:
Just saw Dr. Gottlieb said this virus will only pass with either a vaccine or built up immunity...I don’t think either is happening by November.
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The rest of the world who got the virus outbreak a couple weeks before us have been able to largely crush it.
 
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87Xfer said:
I think that with the roster we have right now, the practices are more meaningful than the Nov games and most of the Dec games. The depth of this team means both squads are better than the teams we'd be playing through a lot of that schedule. Keep people safe, and if we can have a 20 game Big East season, I'll totally take it.
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Good points here to offset the loss of live games and most importantly safer.
 
Scoe said:
You have morons who couldn't pull off a 3 month sacrifice, meanwhile all of Europe is doing just fine.
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superjohn said:
All the people who want the economy open while at the same time proudly saying they'll never wear a mask.
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Scoe said:
Yep that’s it, I could’ve explained that better, I was trying not to make this thread Cesspoolish.
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The Viking said:
If we did a better job protecting the elderly.....alas.
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Edward Sargent said:
The behavior shown by so many Floridians is bizarre to say the least. A political divide over mask wearing? Really. The problem now is too many states let the genie out of the bottle and cannot now stuff him back in. I am personally very concerned about vaccine availability. There has been and will be plenty of time for the virus to mutate (some say it already has) between initiating trials and vaccine approval. FDA is expecting 50% coverage which is a tough target. I was happy when I saw 60% with the flu vaccine and in 2019 it mutated a month or so after the vaccine was released and coverage went to less than 10%. I think the priority should be getting the students in some form of classroom/online situation with strict guidelines starting as soon as possible and see how it works. Universities need to go year round to accommodate reduced class sizes, online learning dorm occupancy restrictions etc. If it works then maybe bring sports back in January. But what do I know - we are trying to figure out how we see our kids and grandkids
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Edward Sargent said:
You can't get a weekend in in Florida, you need to quarantine for 2 weeks. We are headed to upstate NY to stay with our daughter. Once we get there we are quarantining for 2 weeks per NY requirements.
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LOL - “A basketball thread - numnuts” @Samoo
 
superjohn said:
The rest of the world who got the virus outbreak a couple weeks before us have been able to largely crush it.
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To be fair, the US is testing at 2x per capita of Europe. That's not an excuse for our outbreak, just a simple fact. I think our extremely high number of deaths compared to the rest of the world is a blatant combination of refusal to wear masks and states requiring nursing homes to take covid patients. Lots of people are making fun of FL and TX due to their explosion of new cases but NY still has over 10x the deaths per 1mil as them. If everyone wore a mask and the vulnerable remain isolated, this would be over before we knew it. Unfortunately not everyone is willing to cooperate.
 
JimHurley said:
To be fair, the US is testing at 2x per capita of Europe. That's not an excuse for our outbreak, just a simple fact. I think our extremely high number of deaths compared to the rest of the world is a blatant combination of refusal to wear masks and states requiring nursing homes to take covid patients. Lots of people are making fun of FL and TX due to their explosion of new cases but NY still has over 10x the deaths per 1mil as them. If everyone wore a mask and the vulnerable remain isolated, this would be over before we knew it. Unfortunately not everyone is willing to cooperate.
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I am in Florida and in April we were already testing quite a bit more than other states and merrily rolling along at 2-4% positive tests. We are now at 16% positive tests with like you said a lot more testing. That is going to be a problem eventually when it sets into our aged population. 10,109 positive tests today, only a couple thousand more than the highest single day number of cases in the world.
 
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superjohn said:
What does this mean?
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To me it means we are approaching daily positive case numbers of New York State without a New York City. Our Governor refuses to give out daily information on current hospital bed utilization but I fear it is very high. My wife and I are 69, and we are very careful, but everyday see continued examples of stupidity, not observing social distancing walking into stores without a mask and championing the gotta die of something crowd that still smokes cigarettes. Once this settles into my age bracket, and it will, deaths will go up. My only hope is we know more about treatment now than we did in New York. To keep this in perspective about sports, I see no way teams from Florida, Arizona and Texas can travel this fall. My wife and I are headed to NY tomorrow we will have to quarantine for 2 weeks. If we have to then athletes should too, the virus doesn't know the difference.
 
Edward Sargent said:
To me it means we are approaching daily positive case numbers of New York State without a New York City. Our Governor refuses to give out daily information on current hospital bed utilization but I fear it is very high. My wife and I are 69, and we are very careful, but everyday see continued examples of stupidity, not observing social distancing walking into stores without a mask and championing the gotta die of something crowd that still smokes cigarettes. Once this settles into my age bracket, and it will, deaths will go up. My only hope is we know more about treatment now than we did in New York. To keep this in perspective about sports, I see no way teams from Florida, Arizona and Texas can travel this fall. My wife and I are headed to NY tomorrow we will have to quarantine for 2 weeks. If we have to then athletes should too, the virus doesn't know the difference.
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Curious as to where you live. I get hospital bed numbers every day where I live. Three different hospital systems and each day they give updates. I wouldn't ever trust a statewide bed count because of the number of people who get moved in an out of ICU's for whatever reason throughout the day. By the time the state got reports from all the hospitals, assimilated it and put out a press release, the numbers would have already changed. I'm perfectly fine knowing a regional number of 2-3 surrounding counties.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Curious as to where you live. I get hospital bed numbers every day where I live. Three different hospital systems and each day they give updates. I wouldn't ever trust a statewide bed count because of the number of people who get moved in an out of ICU's for whatever reason throughout the day. By the time the state got reports from all the hospitals, assimilated it and put out a press release, the numbers would have already changed. I'm perfectly fine knowing a regional number of 2-3 surrounding counties.
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I am in Clearwater and get the numbers for our regional Baycare system and you are correct the regional numbers are more important.
 
Edward Sargent said:
To me it means we are approaching daily positive case numbers of New York State without a New York City. Our Governor refuses to give out daily information on current hospital bed utilization but I fear it is very high. My wife and I are 69, and we are very careful, but everyday see continued examples of stupidity, not observing social distancing walking into stores without a mask and championing the gotta die of something crowd that still smokes cigarettes. Once this settles into my age bracket, and it will, deaths will go up. My only hope is we know more about treatment now than we did in New York. To keep this in perspective about sports, I see no way teams from Florida, Arizona and Texas can travel this fall. My wife and I are headed to NY tomorrow we will have to quarantine for 2 weeks. If we have to then athletes should too, the virus doesn't know the difference.
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You said, "10,000 positive tests today, only a couple thousand more than the highest single day number of cases in the world."

I still have no clue what this means? It makes no sense.
 
superjohn said:
You said, "10,000 positive tests today, only a couple thousand more than the highest single day number of cases in the world."

I still have no clue what this means? It makes no sense.
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10,000 new COVID cases is what I meant.
 
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Edward Sargent said:
10,000 new COVID cases is what I meant.
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Were you saying 10,000 cases is a couple thousand more than any other state has had, any other country has had? I just can't tell what you're trying to compare it to.
 
Had to go into my office today at the university. I passed maybe 8 or 9 students the halls of my building. Zero of them had masks on.

Hello!!???!?!

Surprised we were even running in person summer classes.
 
I think a lot of posters are not understanding Danny’s comments in context. He did talk about getting recruits on campus. He was dealing with the Sal’s BLM fallout, so some of his comments were particularly sensitive about various demographic categories. What may happen at the appropriate time, is people in those categories will express their preference and Danny will attempt to honor them. Unless, something dramatically changes the pressure not to play won’t cone from within our team and staff. Danny, in my judgement, is being smart not dictating his personal preference on others. It’s best to let them arrive to their own decision. .
 
Chief00 said:
I think a lot of posters are not understanding Danny’s comments in context. He did talk about getting recruits on campus. He was dealing with the Sal’s BLM fallout, so some of his comments were particularly sensitive about various demographic categories. What may happen at the appropriate time, is people in those categories will express their preference and Danny will attempt to honor them. Unless, something dramatically changes the pressure not to play won’t cone from within our team and staff. Danny, in my judgement, is being smart not dictating his personal preference on others. It’s best to let them arrive to their own decision. .
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What do you think about Jay Wright's comments?
 
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Just open up and play with limited fans or no fans at all. There have been deaths, but we know even more what demographics to protect. We also know that those death numbers are inflated for cash benefit. Infection mortality for under 50 years old is about 0.0037 percent...and under 60 it is .037 percent. If you take away comorbidities from any of those groups, you have a greater chance of dying from lightning. The upper age bracket, particularly with comorbidities has weighted the IMF numbers significantly. Cases are going up, and that is not necessarily a problem if the "right" people get it. From the last accountability report from Congress, the CDC was also combining antibody tests with a viral test. Over 45% of deaths have been in nursing homes. The product of common core math is apparent. This really isn't rocket science.
 
The CDC has estimated that unknown COVID-19 cases are some 10x to 20x greater than known cases. So if we're testing more, we're absolutely positively going to find more cases. Furthermore, we're stepping up antibody testing, and we're learning about people who previously had COVID-19, and those numbers are also being included in new cases.

Hence the new cases numbers are significantly less relevant than what's being reported. You test more, you find the cases you already knew were out there. To me, new cases only become more concerning when the medical profession begins to say it's probable that inflicted individuals are significantly higher than the additional 20x greater they've already projected.

I'm not sure I've ever seen more inconsistent reporting in my life, it's borderline criminal. It's certainly not the behavior of good and honest men. We need the truth, and it's really hard to find.

I apologize to management for making a political post, I avoid that like the black plague around here, but it's seemingly being allowed in this thread.
 
maineuconnfan said:
Just open up and play with limited fans or no fans at all. There have been deaths, but we know even more what demographics to protect. We also know that those death numbers are inflated for cash benefit. Infection mortality for under 50 years old is about 0.0037 percent...and under 60 it is .037 percent. If you take away comorbidities from any of those groups, you have a greater chance of dying from lightning. The upper age bracket, particularly with comorbidities has weighted the IMF numbers significantly. Cases are going up, and that is not necessarily a problem if the "right" people get it. From the last accountability report from Congress, the CDC was also combining antibody tests with a viral test. Over 45% of deaths have been in nursing homes. The product of common core math is apparent. This really isn't rocket science.
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If only it were just simple math - its not
 
I stand by my belief that you won’t be hearing from Danny Hurley that the season should start, just as you did not hear from him that the players should return to campus on 6/19. It’s appropriately a decision for others to make. At any rate, Coach Hurley knows he has no direct authority on this decision, it involves the NCAA, other schools, etc. The appropriate public position is just to express concerns about everyone staying healthy. Of course, this doesn’t imply that he doesn’t privately want good health for everyone. Of course he does. So please don’t mischaracterize what I am saying.
 
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willie99 said:
The CDC has estimated that unknown COVID-19 cases are some 10x to 20x greater than known cases. So if we're testing more, we're absolutely positively going to find more cases. Furthermore, we're stepping up antibody testing, and we're learning about people who previously had COVID-19, and those numbers are also being included in new cases.

Hence the new cases numbers are significantly less relevant than what's being reported. You test more, you find the cases you already knew were out there. To me, new cases only become more concerning when the medical profession begins to say it's probable that inflicted individuals are significantly higher than the additional 20x greater they've already projected.

I'm not sure I've ever seen more inconsistent reporting in my life, it's borderline criminal. It's certainly not the behavior of good and honest men. We need the truth, and it's really hard to find.

I apologize to management for making a political post, I avoid that like the black plague around here, but it's seemingly being allowed in this thread.
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Your facts would be very reassuring if vulnerable people didn't work, shop and live with less vulnerable people. You can't have rampant spread, or any spread without threatening everyone.
 
willie99 said:
The CDC has estimated that unknown COVID-19 cases are some 10x to 20x greater than known cases. So if we're testing more, we're absolutely positively going to find more cases. Furthermore, we're stepping up antibody testing, and we're learning about people who previously had COVID-19, and those numbers are also being included in new cases.

Hence the new cases numbers are significantly less relevant than what's being reported. You test more, you find the cases you already knew were out there. To me, new cases only become more concerning when the medical profession begins to say it's probable that inflicted individuals are significantly higher than the additional 20x greater they've already projected.

I'm not sure I've ever seen more inconsistent reporting in my life, it's borderline criminal. It's certainly not the behavior of good and honest men. We need the truth, and it's really hard to find.

I apologize to management for making a political post, I avoid that like the black plague around here, but it's seemingly being allowed in this thread.
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NYC did it right.

They started counting the numbers of people dying from heart attacks on their way to the hospital prior to testing. When there's a 1000% increase in such cases from month-to-month, there's something in the water.

Reminds me of the famous video from Bergamo Italy, where a guy drinking his morning coffee filmed himself reading a February 2020 newspaper, passing over the 1 page list of obituaries. He turns to the mid March newspaper and the obituary section goes on and on and on and on. 15+ pages. Increase of 1500%.
 
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