We will be in Kingston. We have a small apartment and our daughter is planning on bringing in groceries. We are taking the autotrain so we don't need to stop in any hotels on the way up. We have food in the car along with two boxes of cleaning supplies, N95 masks, neck gaiters, hand sanitizer etc., I wrote the handwashing guidelines for emergency responders 10 years ago for the American Red Cross and have several book chapters on use of PPE in workplaces and I am very very nervous about this trip.
No you got the timing wrong. It was never the beaches in Florida, its the bars. The spike is timed perfectly 2 to 3 weeks after bars were opened up. Due to the Saharan dust we've been very hot down here for the last few weeks so everyone has been staying indoors to cool off. They drink, drank drunk themselves silly. Early in the rise in cases DeSantis tried to pawn it off on increased testing. He also tried to say it was because of a spike in cases in migrant workers who live together in tight quarters. When someone pointed out to him the the migrant workers left the state in May he backed off on that but continued to say it was due to increased testing. The data however doesn't lie, liars lie. The median age dropped from 65 to 35 from April to now, coinciding with the average age of the bar crowd. The percent positive went from a nice 2 to 4 % to almost 18%. I do think we will see a spike in cases due to the BLM protests, how big remains to be seen. It will likely blend in the the increase in cases we are already seeing. My concern now is lagging indicators. Hospitalizations are starting to rise, and DeSantis somehow has taken this indicator off the State's dashboard (like I said liars lie!) and fired the dashboard's creator. So far we have been told we have enough hospital beds, but some states like Arizona and Texas are struggling. The next lagging indicator is ICU utilization followed by deaths. With our significant seniors population I fully expect to eventually see a rise in these as well, maybe by the end of July.
My bad - sorry
I originally thought there would be a major spike from the protests but I no longer think so. I went to a bunch of protests in Chicago, there were thousands of people and I never saw anyone without a mask on except for the cops. My friend in LA said the same thing in his city. All the mask wearing and everything being outside should leave us in an okay spot. I haven't even seen any evidence there's any significant transmission outside. These protests were about a month ago, we should be seeing a major spike by now if it was going to happen and we haven't even with the increased testing and phase 4 starting a week ago. I do think we'll probably see a little spike with phase 4 but it will be manageable. It's as clear as day that masks are everything.
SJ you are correct about the outdoor spread. There was a good study out of Korea contact tracing some 1700 cases and I think the numbers showed only 1 or 2 were from outdoor contact. Early on Florida was embarrassed nationally by wide open beaches. Well ultimately those beach crowds weren't the problem. We were doing fine in April and May then opened the bars and restaurants without any mandate to wear masks.
Hey numbnuts, come back to the cesspool. These guys don't want you spoiling a basketball thread.
I think so. Air handling systems weren't created for protecting health and safety of patrons, just to keep them cool. If the airhandler is blowing the air across the breathing zone of a superspreader yikes!
NY, NJ and MA also have done a good job with their openings.
What, shared beer bongs and speaking over loud music from 6" distance caused a spike?Coronavirus outbreak among University of Washington Greek life; state sees 2nd-highest daily case jump
Officials recently identified a coronavirus outbreak among the University of Washington’s Greek life students, just as the state reported its second-highest day of new cases.www.foxnews.com
U Washington frats Covid outbreak
How about these idiots in Alabama? Seriously?Coronavirus outbreak among University of Washington Greek life; state sees 2nd-highest daily case jump
Officials recently identified a coronavirus outbreak among the University of Washington’s Greek life students, just as the state reported its second-highest day of new cases.
U Washington frats Covid outbreak
Alabama gonna Alabama.How about these idiots in Alabama? Seriously?
Students in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 have been attending parties in the city and surrounding area as part of a disturbing contest to see who can catch the virus first, a city council member told ABC News on Wednesday.
Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry said students have been organizing "COVID parties" as a game to intentionally infect each other with the contagion that has killed more than 127,000 people in the United States. She said she recently learned of the behavior and informed the city council of the parties occurring in the city.
She said the organizers of the parties are purposely inviting guests who have COVID-19.
"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense," McKinstry said. "They're intentionally doing it."
Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected: Officials
Rising infections prompt Gov. Kay Ivy to extend 'Safer at Home' orders.abcnews.go.com
Seems to me indoor is the issue.
Holy duck***How about these idiots in Alabama? Seriously?
Students in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 have been attending parties in the city and surrounding area as part of a disturbing contest to see who can catch the virus first, a city council member told ABC News on Wednesday.
Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry said students have been organizing "COVID parties" as a game to intentionally infect each other with the contagion that has killed more than 127,000 people in the United States. She said she recently learned of the behavior and informed the city council of the parties occurring in the city.
She said the organizers of the parties are purposely inviting guests who have COVID-19.
"They put money in a pot and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense," McKinstry said. "They're intentionally doing it."
Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected: Officials
Rising infections prompt Gov. Kay Ivy to extend 'Safer at Home' orders.
Still can’t wrap my head around the people who Still refuse to wear masks. Why? It’s not thier right to infect other people. I could see if it was like the seatbelt law where it only affects the person wearing it - but when you’re not wearing a mask you can give something to me and I could pass it on to my newborn or my parents. - people really that insane about this mask wearing ? Dummies.
