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metsfan2323 said:
If everything is equal like Diaco claims then go with the guy who has proven he can get it done under game conditions against a real pass rush. Only one guy last year attacked the blitz the other two collapsed against the blitz.
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ZooCougar said:
Reading between the lines it sounds like the plan is to hand the ball off a lot.
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Actually, I wouldn't mind that one bit, as long as it's effective and sets up the play action...
 
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businesslawyer said:
Has a depth chart been posted? I keep seeing references to it but can't find one on uconnhuskies.com
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I remember seeing one. It has all three listed as "OR"
 
I know the general opinion of Whitmer on this board is pretty positive, but I'll just say I'm going to be very disappointed if he's given the starting job again to start the season.
 
I'll always remember Whitmer as the kid who had to run for his life every damn time he dropped back to pass. I'll especially remember the Louisville game on the road in 2012. He handed the ball off to McCombs and faked a bootleg. McCombs was tackled for a 2-3 yard loss and Whitmer was crushed on the fake.

Next series we run the same play, but he holds onto the ball for a play action pass. Same exact result. I was in the stands steaming mad at the play call. Nothing about the play worked the first time, and they went back to it, immediately. Whitmer would eventually get injured and was replaced by McEntee. Shocking. That staff kept putting him in situations where he was going to get crushed. He was never once comfortable in the backfield. Maybe he held onto the ball too long once in a while. Usually, he was sacked literally within 1.5 seconds.

I'll never hold his performances against him. He was constantly in fear for his life and the multiple concussions are just evidence that he literally had no shot at becoming a competent QB under the former regime. He has a legitimate case for punitive damages when you consider the money we still had to pay Coach P, and the damage that man did to Whitmer's health.
 
WingU-Conn said:
I'll always remember Whitmer as the kid who had to run for his life every damn time he dropped back to pass. I'll especially remember the Louisville game on the road in 2012. He handed the ball off to McCombs and faked a bootleg. McCombs was tackled for a 2-3 yard loss and Whitmer was crushed on the fake.

Next series we run the same play, but he holds onto the ball for a play action pass. Same exact result. I was in the stands steaming mad at the play call. Nothing about the play worked the first time, and they went back to it, immediately. Whitmer would eventually get injured and was replaced by McEntee. Shocking. That staff kept putting him in situations where he was going to get crushed. He was never once comfortable in the backfield. Maybe he held onto the ball too long once in a while. Usually, he was sacked literally within 1.5 seconds.

I'll never hold his performances against him. He was constantly in fear for his life and the multiple concussions are just evidence that he literally had no shot at becoming a competent QB under the former regime. He has a legitimate case for punitive damages when you consider the money we still had to pay Coach P, and the damage that man did to Whitmer's health.
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And you haven't even mentioned the most egregious of PGDL decisions. Splitting Whitmer out wide on a trick play in the last home game against Cincy. Whitmer got hit so hard he couldn't stand on the sideline. This was after his series of concussions. It was after that play, I thought to myself, don't even let P or GDL in the damn locker room to address the team. I was infuriated.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
And you haven't even mentioned the most egregious of PGDL decisions. Splitting Whitmer out wide on a trick play in the last home game against Cincy. Whitmer got hit so hard he couldn't stand on the sideline. This was after his series of concussions. It was after that play, I thought to myself, don't even let P or GDL in the damn locker room to address the team. I was infuriated.
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Here's what slayed me about that play. Whitmer lined up at Wide out RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CINCY BENCH!!! Normally, a competent play caller would try hiding the QB whose not playing QB in front of his own sideline so at least there is a half chance he'll blend with the like uniforms. On the bright side (so to speak), that was the only "Wildcat" play of the former regime that even remotely resembled a Wildcat formation.

It happened right in front of me. Whitmer was absolutely paved on that play.
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
And you haven't even mentioned the most egregious of PGDL decisions. Splitting Whitmer out wide on a trick play in the last home game against Cincy. Whitmer got hit so hard he couldn't stand on the sideline. This was after his series of concussions. It was after that play, I thought to myself, don't even let P or GDL in the damn locker room to address the team. I was infuriated.
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I forgot about that. Warde should have fired him right after that game. Just an unconscionable lack of judgement.
 
WingU-Conn said:
I'll always remember Whitmer as the kid who had to run for his life every damn time he dropped back to pass. I'll especially remember the Louisville game on the road in 2012. He handed the ball off to McCombs and faked a bootleg. McCombs was tackled for a 2-3 yard loss and Whitmer was crushed on the fake.

Next series we run the same play, but he holds onto the ball for a play action pass. Same exact result. I was in the stands steaming mad at the play call. Nothing about the play worked the first time, and they went back to it, immediately. Whitmer would eventually get injured and was replaced by McEntee. Shocking. That staff kept putting him in situations where he was going to get crushed. He was never once comfortable in the backfield. Maybe he held onto the ball too long once in a while. Usually, he was sacked literally within 1.5 seconds.

I'll never hold his performances against him. He was constantly in fear for his life and the multiple concussions are just evidence that he literally had no shot at becoming a competent QB under the former regime. He has a legitimate case for punitive damages when you consider the money we still had to pay Coach P, and the damage that man did to Whitmer's health.
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I totally agree with this post. If whitmer was my son,I would have gone on the field and punched PP in. The mouth and dragged Whitmer off the field". I cannot tell you how strongly I fee l about what they did to Whitmer. The kid has guts.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
And you haven't even mentioned the most egregious of PGDL decisions. Splitting Whitmer out wide on a trick play in the last home game against Cincy. Whitmer got hit so hard he couldn't stand on the sideline. This was after his series of concussions. It was after that play, I thought to myself, don't even let P or GDL in the damn locker room to address the team. I was infuriated.
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That play call boarded on the criminal. He should have been fired before entering the tunnel that day. I remember screaming obscenities from the moment Whit split out wide until about 5 minutes after the play was over. I knew he had no honor after that game. No man with honor lets that play happen under those circumstances.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
And you haven't even mentioned the most egregious of PGDL decisions. Splitting Whitmer out wide on a trick play in the last home game against Cincy. Whitmer got hit so hard he couldn't stand on the sideline. This was after his series of concussions. It was after that play, I thought to myself, don't even let P or GDL in the damn locker room to address the team. I was infuriated.
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The best part about this trick play is that Dumb & Dumber put it on film at the end of blowout win against friggin' UMASS. The Bearcat D ran the play along side our offense that night.

God, I am so excited to get this season started with proper coaching.
 
The QB having respect and the control of the huddle is huge. You can bet Geremy Davis being one of the team captains will be asked by the staff for his opinions.
 
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BoatShow said:
"I will boycott the BYU game if insert QB here isn't named starter." - someone on the boneyard probably
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I will boycott the BYU game is BoatShow isn't named starter.
 
uconnell said:
I totally agree with this post. If whitmer was my son,I would have gone on the field and punched PP in. The mouth and dragged Whitmer off the field". I cannot tell you how strongly I fee l about what they did to Whitmer. The kid has guts.
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Don't laugh but I know the mother of one of our former players (not CW) who wanted to do exactly that (actually to GDL bit if P got in the way should would have slugged him as well).
 
Palatine said:
I've seen Whitmer in game conditions. He put up 16 points against Towson. Unless he had a huge growth spurt as a QB this off season..
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If that's the measuring stick, Cochran wins hands down. Boyle had 8 INTs against 0 TDs. Lowest in college football.
 
Actually, this quarterback selection, and to some extent the decision last year to play Boyle, could have some longer term impact on our lineup. I suspect that might be some of the impetus to convince Whitmer to come back this year. If you think Boyle has long term potential to be really good, but isn't ready as was painfully clear last year, and Whitmer is a solid stopgap, you can go with him and let Boyle and Cochran battle it out next year. But if Cochran establishes himself as #1 this season and has a solid performance over the course of the year, it becomes almost impossible to replace him next year even if you think Boyle might have more upside. Replacing an established starter isn't that easy for any coach and if you do it, you better be right. And next year we have the NC ?State transfer plus a Diaco recruit who will redshirt, but will enter the competition for 2016. If you're Boyle and Cochran gets the nod you have to wonder if you might not be better off at Delaware or Western Michigan or somewhere.

All that said, I like Whitmer and I have often wondered how he'd do with a competent offense around him, something that was sorely lacking the past 2 seasons. He has guts, he can throw the football, he can run a little and he has that gunslinger mentality that I like in quarterbacks, though he needs a little better judgement to go with it. And I like Boyle's potential. Big rangy quarterbacks with good arms are really good to have. He was horribly abused by the coaching staff last year, though and that hurt his future at UConn I suspect.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Don't laugh but I know the mother of one of our former players (not CW) who wanted to do exactly that (actually to GDL bit if P got in the way should would have slugged him as well).
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My guess is if you had a list of people who wanted to smack DeLeone it would go from Hartford to Hawaii starting in an easterly direction.
 
freescooter said:
My guess is if you had a list of people who wanted to smack DeLeone it would go from Hartford to Hawaii starting in an easterly direction.
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I would like to get in this line.
 
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I have to believe it will be Cochrane. The real question is whether HCBD thinks Whitmer is an adequate backup in case of injury to Casey. If so, maybe they put the red shirt on Boyle.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I have to believe it will be Cochrane. The real question is whether HCBD thinks Whitmer is an adequate backup in case of injury to Casey. If so, maybe they put the red shirt on Boyle.
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Maybe but what good does that do Boyle? If Casey establishes himself as the #1 guy, and by that I mean he continues to perform well under game conditions, what benefit does Boyle get from redshirting this year. It will be much tougher to win the job next year with Casey having a year as the go to guy and even tougher when he's a senior. to me this is make or break for Boyle, which is kind of strange in a way and unfortunate for him in a couple of ways. First that he came to UConn after BC changed coaches, then he lost out to a guy who wasn't really seen as a high level D1 guy coming out of high school.
 
Put me on the these guys are better than they showed, but aren't scaring anyone, so we better be able to run the ball, but I'll take whoever hangs on the ball list.

Which is Cochran. As much as I might have liked Whitmer, Seniors don't stop throwing INTs and if none are separating themselves, I'll take the younger guy.

If the line is decent, Whitmer is probably the best QB on the roster, but my definition of decent is pretty high.
 
My gut tells me it will be Whitmer - just a hunch.

Diaco asked him to stay - he could have easily transfered to DII and played immediately. I dont think he asked him to stay to hold a clipboard.

And if that is the case the board will implode and explode - will be fun times!!
 
freescooter said:
Maybe but what good does that do Boyle? If Casey establishes himself as the #1 guy, and by that I mean he continues to perform well under game conditions, what benefit does Boyle get from redshirting this year. It will be much tougher to win the job next year with Casey having a year as the go to guy and even tougher when he's a senior. to me this is make or break for Boyle, which is kind of strange in a way and unfortunate for him in a couple of ways. First that he came to UConn after BC changed coaches, then he lost out to a guy who wasn't really seen as a high level D1 guy coming out of high school.
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It allows Boyle to be the starter for two years, that's what. CC is a junior, and if Boyle redshirts, next year he'll be a RS sophomore, then in his junior and senior years, he gets the keys to the car, probably with more talent around him.
 
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