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Fishy said:
Dude, he didn't actually say that.

You need to be a lot faster on the uptake.

But, no question, ESPN took the Big East for a ride, left the gun and took the cannoli.
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This is HFD's quote: dickie v "these teams will probally finish 12 and 13th in the acc, its a tuff league"

If it was done in jest, then that's my fault. However, you and I are both aware of the situation. That's why I highlighted your edit to your post, since it's the thing that matters...
 
HuskyfanDan said:
i said it lol dickie v did not(yet...)

the scary part is its not far off and believable
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That's the problem! It sounded like Dickie V to me. But I've shoveled 86 metric tons of snow today, so I'm a little loopy...:confused:
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Hahaha. That's hilarious. Because until you, Zoo and Z started dancing on UConn's grave tonight, the rest of us had no idea how duck*ed we were. Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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You're right Georgia State and ODU will put us over the top though.
 
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huskymedic said:
From NBC Sports:

Report: NBC verbals offer for Big East TV rights

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/report-nbc-verbals-offer-for-big-east-tv-rights/
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Well, there we have it then.

If...IF....the C-7 contract is actually twice as much as ours with FOX, then don't be shocked to see UConn and Cincy pimping right now to the MW for some sort of weird eastern version of the league in football only and then the C-7 as an olympic home. The final question is what is the actual value of the C-7 FOX offer then...I'm going to go to the bathroom to throw up now...

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Can't wait for ESPN to bid 23 million and 1 dollar, like on The Price Is Right...
 
1) uh and smu will take utep and tulsa and pack bags for the mwc quick
2) f espn, but i will take them over any other now just becuase its sports center vs no sportscenter. simple as that now when your not makin $....

3) if im warde, i devsie a plan with cincy and no one else. the 2 of u together come up with a pitch to the mwc, pac, b12, b10, sec and mac. u offer each of those leagues scheduling alliances. both teams offer the following
-2 football games a year( 1 h, 1 a)
-4 bball games m/w (2/2)

if u can get atleast 4 of the league to bite on this, then it makes sense $ wise. both of u seel to sny and something for cincy and then join the c7. your bball and other survive, u also get some great ooc games in bball. in fball u have alliances with a couple league where they get not power 5 but not crap ooc games that will do ok to good on tv. that will make each school good $ and keep them relevent...
 
HuskyfanDan said:
1) uh and smu will take utep and tulsa and pack bags for the mwc quick
2) f espn, but i will take them over any other now just becuase its sports center vs no sportscenter. simple as that now when your not makin $....

3) if im warde, i devsie a plan with cincy and no one else. the 2 of u together come up with a pitch to the mwc, pac, b12, b10, sec and mac. u offer each of those leagues scheduling alliances. both teams offer the following
-2 football games a year( 1 h, 1 a)
-4 bball games m/w (2/2)

if u can get atleast 4 of the league to bite on this, then it makes sense $ wise. both of u seel to sny and something for cincy and then join the c7. your bball and other survive, u also get some great ooc games in bball. in fball u have alliances with a couple league where they get not power 5 but not crap ooc games that will do ok to good on tv. that will make each school good $ and keep them relevent...
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Great minds think alike. So do mediocre ones, so I'm not sure which we are, but there is agreement here... ;)
 
frankthetank said:
Yes, this is the point.

The *worst* schools in the Catholic 7 are going to be DePaul, Providence and Seton Hall. These are still programs that have been to the Final Four in the Magic/Bird era, are located in major markets, have long histories and tradition, and have still been to the NCAA Tournament in the past decade. (Yes, even DePaul has gone in the past decade.) That actually compares extremely favorably to any other conference (e.g. look at Northwestern, Penn State and Nebraska basketball in the Big Ten). The point is that having DePaul as a dreg (a traditional program in the nation's third largest TV market) is nothing like having ECU as a dreg.

I've said from the beginning that the Catholic 7 was going to end up with a much better TV contract than what football-focused realignment observers believed. They have brand names, tradition, major markets and a strong collective identity.
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If you're going to go back that far, the Magic/Bird era, then please note you left out SMU football and Houston basketball. In fact, Houston was better than all those teams during those years, and they made much more of an impact.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Great minds think alike. So do mediocre ones, so I'm not sure which we are, but there is agreement here... ;)
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i mean think about it. uconn and cincy have worth all around to some degree. everyone else in the nbe u can argue does not have = worth.

lets say u hook the mac, mwc, b12 and pac. the mac, mwc see it as no brainers to have a small easy logistis relationship. the pac needs good bball inventory and doesn't mind sending 2 teams yearly out to the east coast. its anice win for them. same with the b12.

uconns football schedule could be
-mac home
-mac away
-pac h
-pac a
-mwc h
-mwc a
-b12 h
-b12 a
-open
-open
-fcs
-cincy

i would say thats not hard to acomplish from a ad logistics issue...now give notre dame a 10 year series where they get 4 home games a boston and nyc game with 75% gate each and give us 4 home games.

i say its completely possible. wtf not at this point? 2 mil a year from espn isn't worth 2 in the bush. our girls program could decide to schedule the top 15 teams next year and double the sny contract if we wanted to. theres your 2 frucking mil.

in bball in the c7 u get 3-5mil. u and cincy really bump it up. its good sos/rpi wis ebut missing lville/cuse types hurt a bit. but not really becuase in your pac agreement the pac wanted a big inventoory game so they have u playing zona or oregon and the mwc has its best team on a given year playing u bracket buster weekernd as so on....

its doable if were really in such a brutal spot. doable...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Well, there we have it then.

If...IF....the C-7 contract is actually twice as much as ours with FOX, then don't be shocked to see UConn and Cincy pimping right now to the MW for some sort of weird eastern version of the league in football only and then the C-7 as an olympic home. The final question is what is the actual value of the C-7 FOX offer then...I'm going to go to the bathroom to throw up now...

p.s.
Can't wait for ESPN to bid 23 million and 1 dollar, like on The Price Is Right...
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The bank vaults in the BE offices make this a non-starter. They have over $100 million in there between exit fees and NCAA tourney credits.

They can vote to dissolve the conference and split things up, but why do that when they have more money coming to them from Notre Dame and Louisville, and there are questions as to whether they even need to split exit fee money with the CYO7.

Not to mention the MWC probably has no interest in a school that wants to leave, and a school located on the east coast.
 
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I've always been for aligning with the C7 and going independent in football. For football we have 6-7 schools in the bag in terms of scheduling - FCS, UMass, Cincy, 2 of Army/Navy/BYU, MACx2. Try to get a permanent rivalry going with one of BC/SU/RU (RU is my preference because of B1G). That leaves us with trying to find 4 games against BCS schools.
 
If those are the numbers and ESPN just needs to match, UConn needs to hitch up its olympics with the C7. Tell the NBE we're happy to leave our football there for now.

If they say no, laugh and ask them what choice they have?
 
We need to hire Honey Boo Hoo as a spirit girl and spin off the most demented reality show ever that propels NBCSN to its Highest ratings ever.

Sent from my Lumia 920 via Windows 8. Now bite me Apple Droids.
 
If this all goes through, I'd be more than cool with releasing Blumenthal again...
 
Fishy said:
But, no question, ESPN took the Big East for a ride, left the gun and took the cannoli.
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That is the truth. I also think ESPN is shocked UConn hasn't found a home yet. I don't think there's any doubt ESPN wanted the Big East to go away, but if you asked them when this started which schools would be saved, UConn was on the list for sure.

Connecting the dots in DeFelippo's infamous quote, ESPN recommended UConn and Syracuse be the teams the ACC invited, but DeFilippo was able to use committee style shenanigans to substitute Pitt for UConn.

That was UConn's ride missed. Will the CR Merry-Go-Round give us another chance, or will we be left watching from the sidelines?

If the latter turns out to be true for more than one season, ESPN better give the ACC a special cash offer to invite UConn or they will face my considerable wrath.
 
If UConn agrees to this deal, the football program will die in 20 mins.
 
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Mr. Wonderful said:
That is the truth. I also think ESPN is shocked UConn hasn't found a home yet. I don't think there's any doubt ESPN wanted the Big East to go away, but if you asked them when this started which schools would be saved, UConn was on the list for sure.

Connecting the dots in DeFelippo's infamous quote, ESPN recommended UConn and Syracuse be the teams the ACC invited, but DeFilippo was able to use committee style shenanigans to substitute Pitt for UConn.

That was UConn's ride missed. Will the CR Merry-Go-Round give us another chance, or will we be left watching from the sidelines?

If the latter turns out to be true for more than one season, ESPN better give the ACC a special cash offer to invite UConn or they will face my considerable wrath.
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Respectfully disagree: the Bristol Gang has specifically denigrated UConn mercilessly for years.

They're really not that into us...
 
epark88 said:
Respectfully disagree: the Bristol Gang has specifically denigrated UConn mercilessly for years.

They're really not that into us...
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Espn needs to relocate to Charlotte immediately.
 
epark88 said:
Respectfully disagree: the Bristol Gang has specifically denigrated UConn mercilessly for years.

They're really not that into us...
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They denigrated anyone they believed was a threat to the ACC's prestige (and we were a constant threat...), but that's just protecting their largest investment. Speaking of which, they've helped finance and broadcast all of those titles UConn won - they've watched the UConn brand get built from the ground up. Which leads me to my next point...

I think they got tired of supporting both the ACC and the Big East and affected a merger of the two. It got messy. Even so, UConn is the only original Big East member not going to better off than they were when this started. I don't think ESPN anticipated UConn being left out.

It's also not over yet.
 
Kevin Caliendo said:
if in two years Uconn is still in that league, why would you even keep football? certainly not for all the big money/tv exposure. And if you actually make a bowl game, the incremental money earned from TV would be lost funding the bowl.
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Little known fact, all old athletic departments have their start in football. UConn is not going to drop it's football program. (Drop football, you serious?) We are now getting the best in-state players even with this conference. Keep dreaming.
 
If the total Big East exit fee pool is around $65M and it is to be divided between UConn, USF and Cincinnati, $20+M is a good start to buy back all of UConn's T1 rights and bid them out to the highest buyer. A SNY/FSNE combo would be nice to reach all of the Northeast. If UConn is being purposely shut out from the collegiate sports landscape by our Northeast "brothers" and not allowed to have a chance to continue to dominate them on the field/court, then we can at least dominate them on TV sets in our region.
 
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Is it OK for a corporation receiving massive state subsidies to repeatedly and systematically work to destroy the anchor state school? Every taxpayer in the state should be furious with ESPN right now.
 
Butch said:
Little known fact, all old athletic departments have their start in football. UConn is not going to drop it's football program. (Drop football, you serious?) We are now getting the best in-state players even with this conference. Keep dreaming.
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Most atheletic programs are run with money. If UConn plays in this conference the football team will be so in the red, that UConn will face the decision of dropping football or every single olympic sport. Lose, lose.
 
djct1999 said:
Most atheletic programs are run with money. If UConn plays in this conference the football team will be so in the red, that UConn will face the decision of dropping football or every single olympic sport. Lose, lose.
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We're going to be out of this conference soon enough.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
massive state subsidies
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The tax break the state gave ESPN required a job creation goal they had to meet, so it wasn't a 'subsidy.' And calling it 'massive' is based on what scale? The one in your head that relies on hyperbole to make a point?
nelsonmuntz said:
repeatedly and systematically work to destroy
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I'm picturing ESPN launching WWII style bombing runs over Storrs with this level of rhetoric.

All that said, consider me among those who firmly believe ESPN has an obligation to fix this for UConn considering they kicked down our sandcastle and are playing on our beach.
 
Butch said:
We're going to be out of this conference soon enough.
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I do think your right. First, there was the conference meetings and realignment chatter. Then, there was some positive UConn buzz in the twittersphere. Finally, the nail in the coffin, Espn's desperate attempt to once again devalue UConn. There is a trend here folks. Something is up and I do think we find out sooner not later.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
They denigrated anyone they believed was a threat to the ACC's prestige (and we were a constant threat...), but that's just protecting their largest investment. Speaking of which, they've helped finance and broadcast all of those titles UConn won - they've watched the UConn brand get built from the ground up. Which leads me to my next point...

I think they got tired of supporting both the ACC and the Big East and affected a merger of the two. It got messy. Even so, UConn is the only original Big East member not going to better off than they were when this started. I don't think ESPN anticipated UConn being left out.

It's also not over yet.
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I get that ESPN has a right to protect it's ACC investment - no issues there. But where should they have drawn the line? Their antics through the years have been downright cruel towards UConn. Just a small sampling:

* When UConn hoops won the dual 'ships in '04, ESPN Radio guy Mike Greenberg told a national audience that UConn fans - both men's and womens' - essentially made him want to vomit. Totally uncalled for (Dickie V did come on later to call Greenberg out for it, but the damage was done).
* When the men won again in '11, their website's big headline a couple days later? "Kemba Reads First Book." Why print that about the tourney MOP, so soon after his greatest moment?
* I tried to watch ESPN again about a month or so ago, and there was some innocuous CFB story running - and then out of the blue they inserted about 30 seconds on UConn's lack of Fiesta Bowl ticket sales two years ago. Thankfully, I haven't made that viewing mistake since.

I guess my point is that if Bristol were so distraught at our current plight, why would they have spent the past near-decade running our public perception into the ground? I think they're pretty giddy that we're in the state that we're in...
 
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