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Herbst letter to the Big 12 expressing UConn's interest

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SAMCRO said:
Memphis' letter to Bowlsby requesting an invitation to the B12 just surfaced, so I guess they're in the game too.
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Chris Licata ‏@Licatacs 3h3 hours ago
@ADimeBack I FOIA'd Memphis and found their letter of interest to the Big 12. I can send you the rest if you want.
 
I especially like the wording "We are prepared to learn more about your criteria for evaluating potential members..."
Basically, if you are serious, then let's talk about the criteria first before we go any further because if your criteria is what it should be, then we will present our University and you will know that we are the most qualified candidate.
 
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Stinger92860 said:
Please have your team to direct.....

English can be a 2nd language for me, but it sounds wrong.
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It's absolutely wrong. You don't have your team to direct inquiries to... You just have them direct inquiries to...
 
History Geek said:
Wait, I thought the administration was asleep at the switch again with pina colada in hand...:rolleyes:
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I don't know how to interpret Cincy and Houston directing their interests to the Big 12's law firm and Uconn sending it directly to Bowlsby, but it is a bit bizarre.
 
Muddler said:
I don't know how to interpret Cincy and Houston directing their interests to the Big 12's law firm and Uconn sending it directly to Bowlsby, but it is a bit bizarre.
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I was just puzzling over this at dinner. Two possibilities: 1.) UCONN out of loop and thus the deviation from instructions, or 2.) UCONN has a personal back door into the process.

Figure that one out, and we know our fate.
 
auggie22 said:
I was just puzzling over this at dinner. Two possibilities: 1.) UCONN out of loop and thus the deviation from instructions, or 2.) UCONN has a personal back door into the process.

Figure that one out, and we know our fate.
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Given that Cincy and Houston are considered favorites I might feel better if our process was the same. Let's hope ECU didn't send their letter directly to Bowlsby.
 
Muddler said:
I don't know how to interpret Cincy and Houston directing their interests to the Big 12's law firm and Uconn sending it directly to Bowlsby, but it is a bit bizarre.
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I don't remember seeing Houston's/Houston's President Khator actual response letter back to Bowlsby printed anywhere yet?

Can someone attach the link?
 
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They either knew something she didn't know at that time, which is troubling, or she was specifically told she could send the letter directly, which would be encouraging if true. The second possibility doesn't make a whole lot of sense, though, because they'd want the process to be uniform. However, they can't fault her for sending it directly if there had been no communication from them about how to proceed.
 
MattMang23 said:
We are ahead of Cincy, too. Their president told Commissioner Bowlsby "have your team to direct inquiries to..."
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I once worked for a firm that steadfastly refused to so much as interview a candidate if there was a single typo in their resume or cover letter.

You could be summa from Harvard - didn't matter, your application went in the trash.

I thought the policy was a bit over the top at the time, but now I realize that it was brilliant and the B12 would be crazy not to adopt the same approach.
 
UConnNick said:
The second possibility doesn't make a whole lot of sense,
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Why?

There are thousands of cases where some party is given preferential treatment in advance. In my nearly 35 year business career there have been five instances (with two different publicly traded companies) where I was notified of an opening, asked to interview for it and interviewed before the position was ever posted. Needless to say, in each case I was given the promotion immediately upon completion of the required posting period.

For whatever reason the B-12 feels it needs to be able to publicly state that they gave every possible candidate the opportunity to toss their hat in the ring. I'll wager heavily that a few candidates were notified in advance of a path for application that would not be available to everyone.
 
My god. You folks are wound too tight.

Schools send letter to Bowslby because why the hell wouldn't they?

Bowlsby emails back, says hey, thanks, please send letter of interest to these legal peeps.

Schools send letter to legal peeps.
 
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Typos? Typos? We don't take anyone with stinkin' typos!
 
UConnNick said:
They either knew something she didn't know at that time, which is troubling, or she was specifically told she could send the letter directly, which would be encouraging if true. The second possibility doesn't make a whole lot of sense, though, because they'd want the process to be uniform. However, they can't fault her for sending it directly if there had been no communication from them about how to proceed.
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There is also nothing to say that the letter from Susan Herbst to Bob Bowlsby wasn't in an secure envelop addressed to Attorney Sweeney in the Kansas City office. Bunch of ways to skin that cat.
 
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Quick, someone FOIA the envelope!

The letter could have been addressed to the Big12, but routed through the law firm?
 
Muddler said:
I don't know how to interpret Cincy and Houston directing their interests to the Big 12's law firm and Uconn sending it directly to Bowlsby, but it is a bit bizarre.
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Cincy and Houston didn't direct their interests to the Big 12 law firm. All of them (Houston, Cincy and UConn) expressed their interest to Bowlsby directly. UConn and Cincy followed the correct process and waited to be contacted by Bowlsby. Houston (Khator) jumped the gun and emailed Bowlsby.

At the teleconference Boren explained the process. He said:

"So at the end of all of that discussion, the direction from the Board was to the commissioner to contact those schools, recontact those schools who have expressed interest to us, who have come to us, and to find out exactly the nature of the interest..."

Cincy and UConn waited to be contacted by Bowlsby (per Boren's statement above) and then responded to him of their interest. Cincy asked for further correspondence to be sent to Cincy's law firm.

Khator didn't wait for the letter from Bowlsby. She emailed him, telling him of Houston's interest, and then he wrote her back in reply to her email (he mentions her email) with the instructions of what law firm to send the info to. Since she had emailed him and already told him of Houston's interest, his letter to her explained the next step which was to send material to the Big 12's law firm.

In other words, Houston skipped the first step, which was to wait for the letter from Bowlsby asking them if they were still interested. She didn't wait, she emailed him.

That's my understanding of it. It has nothing to do with schools getting preferential treatment.
 
jostar1 said:
Cincy and Houston didn't direct their interests to the Big 12 law firm. All of them (Houston, Cincy and UConn) expressed their interest to Bowlsby directly. UConn and Cincy followed the correct process and waited to be contacted by Bowlsby. Houston (Khator) jumped the gun and emailed Bowlsby.

At the teleconference Boren explained the process. He said:

"So at the end of all of that discussion, the direction from the Board was to the commissioner to contact those schools, recontact those schools who have expressed interest to us, who have come to us, and to find out exactly the nature of the interest..."

Cincy and UConn waited to be contacted by Bowlsby (per Boren's statement above) and then responded to him of their interest. Cincy asked for further correspondence to be sent to Cincy's law firm.

Khator didn't wait for the letter from Bowlsby. She emailed him, telling him of Houston's interest, and then he wrote her back in reply to her email (he mentions her email) with the instructions of what law firm to send the info to. Since she had emailed him and already told him of Houston's interest, his letter to her explained the next step which was to send material to the Big 12's law firm.

In other words, Houston skipped the first step, which was to wait for the letter from Bowlsby asking them if they were still interested. She didn't wait, she emailed him.

That's my understanding of it.
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Nor did USF and they surely didn't keep it "very brief". USF letter to Big 12 Commissioner-Bob-Bowlsby
 
@jostar1 please see the address that was used on the Cinci letter vis-a-vis the instructions in the email to UH. Also, Bowlsby requested the schools general counsel contact info (thus, Cinci followed Bowlsby's instructions).

Bowlsby also could have led off his email to UH and all candidates stating that they had previously contacted him (again so it doesn't look like poaching).

The bottom half of the UConn letter is not shown - Trotter said because he didn't want to publish cell phone numbers. Hmmm
 
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huskymedic said:
Nor did USF and they surely didn't keep it "very brief". USF letter to Big 12 Commissioner-Bob-Bowlsby
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jostar1 said:
Well, that letter may have been in response to a letter of inquiry from Bowlsby. I dont think we can tell.
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And looks like USF didn't provide general counsel contact information.

It looks like UH and Cinci received the same instructions. USF either got different instructions or didn't follow instructions. And UConn -- we kept it brief...I'm just hoping that they already have our general counsel information -- maybe we are just way ahead of the game ...so I'm really not concerned...just curious as to the process.
 
If the B12 anticipated your interest and response, the addressee (Bowlsby or Sweeney) would be relatively meaningless, especially if it occurred early in the process. However, spelling errors under the university president's signature would, to me anyway, indicate a certain lack of gravitas/seriousness about your interest.
 
UConn Dan said:
@jostar1 please see the address that was used on the Cinci letter vis-a-vis the instructions in the email to UH. Also, Bowlsby requested the schools general counsel contact info (thus, Cinci followed Bowlsby's instructions).

Bowlsby also could have led off his email to UH and all candidates stating that they had previously contacted him (again so it doesn't look like poaching).

The bottom half of the UConn letter is not shown - Trotter said because he didn't want to publish cell phone numbers. Hmmm
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Yes, I stand corrected on that. It looks like Bowlsby was holding Houston to sending the letter of interest, even though she had emailed him.
 
NYUConn said:
I don't know if this was intended as a joke, but I burst out laughing when I read it.

I love that you can always count on the fact that within the first 30 posts on any somewhat significant news post about UConn/Big 12, somehow says that it could cause the ACC to invite us.

Not. Gonna. Happen.
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Their loss.
 
C'mon, guys. Nothing is supposed to straight forward or transparent. This is CR. It's all about the "head fakes" and "horse trading". Ask the guy who has made deals with hundreds of people smarter than the average university president...he knows.
 
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