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WM: Re NNBE: There's been a committment to make the league strong.
 
Asked the million dollar question: what happens if this league you are banking on just goes away.

Warde says we don't wnat that to happen. We control how good we are. We are in the Big East.
 
We are screwed folks I know its fun to pretend and ride the uss conn but the reality of the situation is truly awful. Pray for instability and further realignment because these two will not be getting us into a conference without it
 
that was a quick hour. i wanted to hear much more

possibly the first (and only) time ive been captivated by NPR
 
specialisthusky said:
We are screwed folks I know its fun to pretend and ride the uss conn but the reality of the situation is truly awful. Pray for instability and further realignment because these two will not be getting us into a conference without it
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Do you really expect top tier athletic departments to be built overnight? All schools coming to the Big East or whatever it will be called all have a common goal. God Almighty.
 
Dankosky - chance other schools leaving... BE might not exist.

WM - we don't want that to happen (duh) in my conversations with other AD's there's been a commitment to stay strong. Aresco doing a good job. We (WM, SH, UConn) are actively moving forward not just waiting for stuff to happen and react. Right now working with Big East.

(If you're really reading between the lines this could be interpreted as going beyond "monitoring the situation"... we're working on both making the BE better but also finding another home, which he CAN'T SAY EXPLICITLY)
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Asked the million dollar question: what happens if this league you are banking on just goes away.

Warde says we don't wnat that to happen. We control how good we are. We are in the Big East.
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I think this isn't an issue at all... where --- are the schools going to go? There's no real western conference to speak of... Conference USA? Please.

Everyone who has an serious aspirations at all about football and is outside of a power conference NEEDS for this conference to work.
 
I listen to NPR up in Boston, so I don't know Dankosky, but I think he did a great job as an interviewer. His expertise may not be sports, or conference realignment, but he did his research and hit all the talking points very well.

On AAU, he prefaced the question by saying that "all, most of Big Ten Schools are in AAU".

Herbst "well not all, Nebraska was kicked out, as was Syracuse"

Interesting? Dig on Cuse or are we possibly in the running for the NE spot (Cuse, BC, UConn) to team up with UVA. I know you conspirators out there will have fun with that one statement.
 
Warde - "John, you stupid c***, of course we've tried to get out of this conference. It's a hot duck*ing mess and my skin duck*ing crawls every time Aresco calls with 'great news'. If he drunk-dials one more backwards mid-major and offers them an invite, I'll feed that motherf***er his own heart. But I can't say that, now can I, John....so why the duck* do you keep asking me? I will rip off your face as soon as we go to commercial."

At least that is what he is thinking. What he said was, "We're still proud members of the Big East". You have to know how to read between the lines.
 
IMind said:
I think this isn't an issue at all... where --- are the schools going to go? There's no real western conference to speak of... Conference USA? Please.

Everyone who has an serious aspirations at all about football and is outside of a power conference NEEDS for this conference to work.
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The MWC is no worse than our proposed league. Our league no longer has an chance at a lucrative TV deal, none. Our league includes difficult travel situations for the schools, and has no chance of generating any real mindshare because it has no identity. It is doomed to fail.

But it as clear as ever that that's where we are headed, whether the western schools join or not. The perception of UConn will drop even further, even in basketball. WM and SH seemed accutely aware of the problem, and helpless to do anything about it.
 
Irish Loop said:
John Dankosky is awesome. He's one of the only people who covers CT politics and culture with anything resembling depth. Sports are not his level of expertise. Expecting NPR personalities to be sports experts is silly.
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Didn't expect him to be an expert. Just expected that line of thinking. Like I said, typical weenie NPR lib.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
The MWC is no worse than our proposed league. Our league no longer has an chance at a lucrative TV deal, none. Our league includes difficult travel situations for the schools, and has no chance of generating any real mindshare because it has no identity. It is doomed to fail.

But it as clear as ever that that's where we are headed, whether the western schools join or not. The perception of UConn will drop even further, even in basketball. WM and SH seemed accutely aware of the problem, and helpless to do anything about it.
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Seriously after all the years of ESPN pimping the Mountain West over the "Big Least" you think our perception can drop off even further? Basketball is only an issue if we really do drop off. You can be viable in just about any conference.

I just think with the nature of the new national title playoffs... as a school outside of the power conferences you need as strong a SOS as possible... and if you're league contains the bottom 2/3rds of the WMC then you're in trouble.
 
junglehusky said:
Dan (HFD? Dan97?) question on Rent expansion

WM - would love to have the need to do that. We have to generate success on the field and fan interest. Chicken or the egg question, sounds like want to sell out first before adding the seats.
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Wasn't me. I was in the car listening (my boss may have wondered where I meandered off to for an hour)...;)
 
HuskyHawk said:
The MWC is no worse than our proposed league. Our league no longer has an chance at a lucrative TV deal, none. Our league includes difficult travel situations for the schools, and has no chance of generating any real mindshare because it has no identity. It is doomed to fail.

But it as clear as ever that that's where we are headed, whether the western schools join or not. The perception of UConn will drop even further, even in basketball. WM and SH seemed accutely aware of the problem, and helpless to do anything about it.
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There is no TV money in the MWC. If Aresco can deliver a substantial increase in TV dollars, with this new conference, and chances are he will easily beat their deal because its so pathetic, they'll be able to cherry pick to MWC teams if they so desire. It is the way that conference realignment is going. Teams leave even power 5 conferences for conferences that pay better.
 
If Connecticut politicians are anything like NY politicians, these guys are the most to blame for this mess. And yes, Mass. pols have the same trouble. They just don't care about public higher education the way Midwesterners do. I don't know what they care about down south--most of the time I think they only care about football.

The state legislature needs to put more money behind UConn. It would help immensely if they gave UConn the kind of support per student that Indiana or Iowa give to state universities. In NY, when you think of the state leadership, they are grads of private schools and have been for generations. All the top leadership. In this state, you'll see $50m given to a private small Catholic school to start a law school, while the state university law school gets cut. You'll see taxpayer money going to private schools for new science buildings while budgets at the publics are slashed. This sort of thing simply doesn't happen in the midwest, maybe because much of the state leadership graduated from the state school, and there's no stigma attached to such an education.

If UConn wants to play with the big boys, it needs more support from the state. It really is as simple as that. Right now UConn is fighting with one arm tied behind its back.
 
businesslawyer said:
Dead duck*ing on! There is a cost for those who actually are fans but come on here and are always entirely negative about every little thing. Those people need to start being shunned. There is a difference between criticism (and even rational discussions about what needs to be better) and the "whoa is me we suck" crap that we have to listen to from our own fans.

I will be pillaried for that. Because goodness forbid that anyone accepts that there can be consequences to what they say in social media.
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Only issue, I have with this post is that a few years back (way before P) so maybe 4 or so years back, I remember some of us screaming that UConn should market better, I specifically lamented the fact that UConn wasn't plastering billboards on I-95, when you entered CT from NY stating silly things like welcome to UConn country, BCS football, blah, blah, blah.

Basically that group was shouted down.

UConn marketing/pumping itself up better, would have gone a long way toward a better self perception by their fans. Granted that was all under a different President and AD combo, but the university dropped the ball during the good times. Where we are now, back to back losing seasons if football, poor national image of the men's basketball program due to APR/post season ban issues, is not the time to be screaming "fans need to be more positive and supportive", that should have come long before, but I guess its what they have to say.
 
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Speaking of perception, is there any hope in getting rid of DJ Dogpound??
 
businesslawyer said:
Dead duck*ing on! There is a cost for those who actually are fans but come on here and are always entirely negative about every little thing. Those people need to start being shunned. There is a difference between criticism (and even rational discussions about what needs to be better) and the "whoa is me we suck" crap that we have to listen to from our own fans.

I will be pillaried for that. Because goodness forbid that anyone accepts that there can be consequences to what they say in social media.
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If fans pack the stadium, fill the arenas, and travel to road games.....nobody cares what it is said here or on social media. Go to games.
 
noeynox said:
Only issue, I have with this post is that a few years back (way before P) so maybe 4 or so years back, I remember some of us screaming that UConn should market better, I specifically lamented the fact that UConn wasn't plastering billboards on I-95, when you entered CT from NY stating silly things like welcome to UConn country, BCS football, blah, blah, blah.

Basically that group was shouted down.

UConn marketing/pumping itself up better, would have gone a long way toward a better self perception by their fans. Granted that was all under a different President and AD combo, but the university dropped the ball during the good times. Where we are now, back to back losing seasons if football, poor national image of the men's basketball program due to APR/post season ban issues, is not the time to be screaming "fans need to be more positive and supportive", that should have come long before, but I guess its what they have to say.
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I might get killed for this, but all my advertising friends call billboards old media and "blue serge suit" advertising. They basically say no one sees it, but it gives the clients a good feeling.
 
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Am I to understand that ESPN's and NBC Sports' presence in Connecticut - and if they are in any position to help UConn - was not raised during the course of this interview?

Going on NPR might be a good way to reach a narrow more upscale audience, but they should be doing an hour on WTIC too. And in the AM with Ray as the moderator. will reach a lot more people.

And finally SH/WM could do themselves a big favor and by not using the words "Big East" or "Mike Aresco" going forward. I look at Cincinnati and I see action - hiring a big-name coach, improving stadium.

Probably wasn't the venue but would have loved to hear Manuel defend keeping Pasqualoni another year
 
IMind said:
Seriously after all the years of ESPN pimping the Mountain West over the "Big Least" you think our perception can drop off even further? Basketball is only an issue if we really do drop off. You can be viable in just about any conference.

I just think with the nature of the new national title playoffs... as a school outside of the power conferences you need as strong a SOS as possible... and if you're league contains the bottom 2/3rds of the WMC then you're in trouble.
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I think the landscape is changing. I think the days of being relevant outside of the big conferences are coming to an end. These media deals mean that the media outlets need to pump their product at the expense of a potentially superior product. For UConn I think that means that it will be increasingly difficult to land those coveted CBS basketball games and Big Monday games on ESPN. No matter how good we are, they will broadcast the big conferences over the outcasts. It will be harder and harder to do what schools like Butler and Gonzaga have done. You might make a run now and then in the tournament, but you won't be on TV as often, so over time recruiting will suffer. This is our fate if we can't escape.
 
ruskin said:
Am I to understand that ESPN's and NBC Sports' presence in Connecticut - and if they are in any position to help UConn - was not raised during the course of this interview?

Going on NPR might be a good way to reach a narrow more upscale audience, but they should be doing an hour on WTIC too. And in the AM with Ray as the moderator. will reach a lot more people.

And finally SH/WM could do themselves a big favor and by not using the words "Big East" or "Mike Aresco" going forward. I look at Cincinnati and I see action - hiring a big-name coach, improving stadium.

Probably wasn't the venue but would have loved to hear Manuel defend keeping Pasqualoni another year
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They really should not even do the NPR circuit. The tone of the interview and the callers forced Manuel to state he's not going to apologize for the level of football we play. I'm pretty sure the first caller who advocated dropping sports was Krayeske. Not the audience you want to hear your point of view. They were both on the defensive the whole time.
 
upstater said:
I might get killed for this, but all my advertising friends call billboards old media and "blue serge suit" advertising. They basically say no one sees it, but it gives the clients a good feeling.
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I remember you saying this before. I no marketing expert, maybe billboards suck, I was thinking along the lines of the the digital ones. The point is, a few years back UConn was in position to market the shot out of themselves based on the success they were having. They sat on their hands then and I really think it was a mistake.
 
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