He ain't heavy, he's my brother

[uconnfan68]

sub par for him maybe in those years but not in comparison to the rest of the qbs.
2007, his last year in GB he was top 5 in most qb categories.
His year with jets, his worst, he was top 10 in all categories and was 8-3 until he tore his bicep
Then made the NFC championship in 2009 after retiring.

He had 1 average year.

He is justly rated: nobody calls him the GOAT. That is usually reserved for Brady, Manning, Mahomes, Montana (for big wins)
Favre comes in as top 5-10 qbs ever in conversation and that's exactly where he belongs.

Belongs in prison for fraud of govt funds.

 

[alphasigko]

Any Duke player!

Good question... Would Bobby H been as good w/out Laetner and/or Hill? Or would either of them been as good w/out Bobby?

 

[Jaydumo20]

Belongs in prison for fraud of govt funds.

Now that's true

 

[UConnSwag11]

LeBron

 

[The Yakk]

There was poll from 2005 calling him the most overrated player and he played the best baseball of his career after that.

Human growth hormone is a great drug.

 

[Excalibur]

I wouldn’t take Cal Ripken Jr over Derek Jeter, I’d take Jeter any day of the week. Rodriguez and Ernie Banks I can see but they switched positions halfway thru their careers.

Both are overrated. Ripken’s peak was better, but Jeter was good for longer, even if he was never a top 5 player. Both hung on at the end through some really mediocre seasons.

 

[Excalibur]

Jeter has been called overrated his entire career so that word "overrated" loses its luster after awhile. I say he was overhyped by the NY media, the national media always called him overrated.

There was poll from 2005 calling him the most overrated player and he played the best baseball of his career after that. Probably should've won the mvp in 2006 in a year he batted .343, in 2009 Jeter batted .334 in that year a catcher was batting .380 so sometimes is a bit about luck as Pedroia was an mvp batting .280. I agree he never should've won the 5 gold gloves.

Pedroia batted over .320 when he won.

 

[Scoe]

Pedroia batted over .320 when he won.

.326 my bad, the point still remains that winning an mvp is a lot about luck especially someone who isn't a slugger.

 

[Scoe]

I remember a running catch on the third baseline against the Red Sox where he couldn't stop his momentum and took 2 possibly 3 steps diving headfirst into the crowd cutting his face up.



The only other one I remember where he ended up in the crowd was also on the third baseline and he didn't really take any steps.



Send me the one where he took 10 steps before diving into the bleachers. That does sound pretty crazy.

That game was the end of Nomar in a Sox uniform.

 

[Scoe]

Tim Tebow as a Florida Gator had insane talent around him. Urban Meyer used Tebow as the face of the Gators to cover up the criminal activity going on in that program, and still does to this day.

 

[The Viking]

Remember how Fisk was able to leave? The Sox forgot to tender an offer before the deadline. Like JI Randy Smith used to say, it wasn't a curse, it was bad management.

Are we sure they forgot? Or was it intentional like some would say

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

What? Nobody gives a rats ass about steroids anymore? Some of the very best players in the history of baseball are seemingly forever banned from the Hall of Fame because people care about steroids.

Steroids make you much better at everything, it's why good players turned into great players and great players turned superhuman.

Are you admitting to steroid use, and suggesting that without steroids you'd be Greatjohn?

I'll let somebody else address the "better at everything" part.

 

[huskyjawz]

He played really well in one of the two SBs, but not as much in the other. And had he not gotten bailed out by a dropped interception and a helmet catch, his legacy would look much different.

And Brady/Belichek don't get their first if they didn't steal the Rams playbook.

 

[HooperScooper]

And Brady/Belichek don't get their first if they didn't steal the Rams playbook.

Is this you, Marshall Faulk? Lol

Stolen playbook? Did you just make this up?

 

[TheHorde]

And Brady/Belichek don't get their first if they didn't steal the Rams playbook.

Sure keep telling yourself that. That’s why it went down to the last two minutes. Please stop with the insane baseless conspiracy theories.

 

[Waquoit]

Are we sure they forgot? Or was it intentional like some would say

I seriously doubt they were that clever.

 

[Waquoit]

That game was the end of Nomar in a Sox uniform.

I thought it was that game where Nomar sat on the bench feeling sorry for himself while the rest of the team was celebrating an exciting comeback win.

 

[Kolumbo]

I'm a Sox fan and I'm not sure where this is coming from. Varitek was a good catcher who was a good hitter for the position but I don't think any Sox fans think he was great. Certainly not Hall of Fame caliber or anything close.

I'm not a sox fan so I'll defer to your expertice. It sure seemed like around here, in these parts, they thought veritek was great, even better than Posada.

They also seemed to think Papelbon was something special.

 

[huskyjawz]

Sure keep telling yourself that. That’s why it went down to the last two minutes. Please stop with the insane baseless conspiracy theories.

Baseless, ha. It's well documented that they spied on other teams. Goodell whitewashed the investigation.

 

[TheHorde]

Baseless, ha. It's well documented that they spied on other teams. Goodell whitewashed the investigation.

Let's Put Patriots-Rams Taped Walkthrough Story To Bed, With Another Super Bowl Meeting On Tap

As members of the 2001 Super Bowl-losing team speak on various platforms, you will hear the following complaint: The Patriots cheated us out of a Super Bowl. They filmed our practice. They cheated. This is a false accusation.

www.cbsnews.com

Nope sorry. Fake news.

 

[TheHorde]

Baseless, ha. It's well documented that they spied on other teams. Goodell whitewashed the investigation.

Did Patriots cheat Kurt Warner’s Rams out of 2nd Super Bowl win?

Tweet by Kurt Warner brings back memories of accusations that Patriots cheated to beat Rams in Super Bowl

www.turfshowtimes.com

 

[TheHorde]

Baseless, ha. It's well documented that they spied on other teams. Goodell whitewashed the investigation.

Also, we found the NY homer that blindly hates all things Boston lol.

 

[huskyjawz]

Also, we found the NY homer that blindly hates all things Boston lol.

OK, you're sour grapes that the Giants beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl and need to belittle Eli's contribution by pointing out a couple of breaks that went his way. I was simply pointing out the Patriots also had some breaks go their way. They also would have lost to Seattle and Atlanta if not for coaching malpractice.

 

[TheHorde]

OK, you're sour grapes that the Giants beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl and need to belittle Eli's contribution by pointing out a couple of breaks that went his way. I was simply pointing out the Patriots also had some breaks go their way. They also would have lost to Seattle and Atlanta if not for coaching malpractice.

Not at all. The Patriots have won that game several times since while the Giants haven’t sniffed it. Cry more.

 

[olehead]

Edit: Smith, Shout out to the NHS forward Emmitt Lewis (Smith).
Hate to say it but this topic screams Emmitt Lewis. Running behind arguably one of the greatest lines in the history of the game with the greatest offensive lineman in Larry Allen (RIP). Really never trucked like Campbell, or made you miss like Barry, nor could take it home like Dorsett. Smart back, good vision. Good not great running back.