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mauconnfan said:
How’d he do against Georgetown 5 days ago, doesn’t that count?
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Even if you count Georgetown over the past 5 games he’s hitting 20% of his three’s, if you don’t count Georgetown, he was only hitting 11% over the other 4 games. Much earlier in the season the kid was more or less automatic. One thing I haven’t been able to find are his stats from the corners vs the rest of the perimeter.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
This whole debate with Hawkins’ playing time wouldn’t be an issue if our upperclassmen would contribute like they should
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Even when his three point shot is off, he definitely contributes and scores in other ways.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
This whole debate with Hawkins’ playing time wouldn’t be an issue if our upperclassmen would contribute like they should
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We are 15 - 4. Who are these upper classmen who aren't contributing? I guess you can argue Gaffney.
 
Big East play (not factoring in eye test or defense). 8 games for each.

Polley- 21 minutes, 8.5 points, 2.2 rebounds, 33.3% 3pt, 5.1 3 point apg

Hawkins - 14.8 minutes, 6.4 points, 1.8 rebounds, 34% 3pt, 2.9 3 point apg

Gaff - 16.3 minutes, 5.5, points, 1.9 rebounds, 31.3% 3pt 1.9, 3 point apg
 
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The kid is going to be a stud player for us. He’s a freshman who is still learning the in and outs of college basketball and will be a lights out shooter once his days at UConn are over.

He has more than likely never played in any opposing gyms/arenas. Familiarity to that gyms background, seat depths, ceiling heights and opponents players does factor in on a players shooting.
He is shooting approx. 43% in home games and approx. 23% in away or neutral court games and is the only freshman getting regular playing time.

He needs to play and I have no problem overall with how Hurley is allocating his game minutes.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
By what metric is Polley contributing more? That’s not saying he shouldn’t play but he’s only contributing, not more
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He's scoring more. He's rebounding better than Hawkins. Their defense is about even, slight edge to Polley. Some nice dimes by Hawkins the other night but neither is really a creator. Polley's handle is fine, Hawkins right now is a guard who can't be trusted to dribble.

Hawkins is the future and has great potential. Polley has shown he can singlehandedly swing games with his shooting and, this year, he's starting to raise the floor of his game a little too. It's a balancing act for Dan Hurley to get Hawkins blooded and still win games now.

Polley, right now, is the better option. He knows what he is in this offense and he's got a little confidence (I don't see him hitting that pull up 15 footer before this year). If the light fully switches on with Hawkins before the end of the season (hopefully) maybe the amount of minutes they play switches.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Big East play (not factoring in eye test or defense). 8 games for each.

Polley- 21 minutes, 8.5 points, 2.2 rebounds, 33.3% 3pt, 5.1 3 point apg

Hawkins - 14.8 minutes, 6.4 points, 1.8 rebounds, 34% 3pt, 2.9 3 point apg

Gaff - 16.3 minutes, 5.5, points, 1.9 rebounds, 31.3% 3pt 1.9, 3 point apg
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OOOPS!! I think I posted their overall numbers

HERE are their Big East numbers, 8 games:

Polley - 19.4 minutes, 6.9 points, 40.9% fg, 36% 3fg, 4.5 3 points apg, 1.4 rebounds

Hawkins - 11.4 minutes, 4.8 points, 34.3% fg, 39% 3fg, 3.0 3point apg, 0.9 rebounds

Gaffney - 10.5 minutes, 2.1 points, 21.1% fg, 0.00% 3fg (hasn't made a 3 against anyone in the power 6 plus st bonnies and vcu), 4.0 3point apg, .09 rebounds
 
Stinger92860 said:
He has gotten much better and last game he had several nice dimes. If he had hit a few of those open threes then he would get more minutes. I glad he is on our team.
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He has to take those shots. Good looks and very close rim outs. Getting lost on defense and stripped on his handle limits his minutes.
 
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mauconnfan said:
How’d he do against Georgetown 5 days ago, doesn’t that count?
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What he did 5 days ago does nothing for UConn during current game. Frankly if he’s not knocking down up shots he brings nothing to the table.
 
UChusky916 said:
Both of his missed 3pt shots were halfway down but missed. His game is fine for a freshman, just hoping his eye/head is fine. We'll need him to contribute in our upcoming gauntlet portion of the schedule.
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Almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenade tossing*, and H bomb dropping!
 
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On the road trying to wrangle an opponent who is being troublesome. Hawkins shot wasn't falling, even with really clean looks. Polley is 6-9 /200 to JH being 6-5/175 and is more experienced on the defensive end, and defense is how the game last night was won. But in the glass half full department, if both Hawkins and Polley are on, UCONN can beat any team in the nation.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
???……. IIRC his season high was against Auburn, and in was 3 for 3 from the arc.
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Yeah he had 16 against Auburn, but he's also had 14 and 15 point games against Butler and Georgetown within the past 4 games. But if your expectation is for him to only go up from 16 points and 100% shooting from 3 throughout the season then I'm not sure what to say
 
It’s apparent that people on the ‘yard have personal biases in favor of one player over another. And some of these takes are not rational. At all. Here’s reality: we have a bench that could (should?) contribute and impact our season. Sometimes, they don’t perform up to skill and expectations. I’ve learned to tune out the “(insert player name) sucks” comments, particularly in the chat. They all have flaws/strengths/weaknesses. I’d rather be supportive of our hot-and-cold super senior, deer-in-headlights-at-times freshman, and unfortunately-more-passive-than-aggressive junior. As I’ve said previously, UConn will go as far as the bench takes this team in March.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
This whole debate with Hawkins’ playing time wouldn’t be an issue if our upperclassmen would contribute like they should
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You’re correct that the upperclassmen as the issue, but you seem to be expecting the same type of production from these guys that you would get from high level recruits in their junior/senior years. These guys are mid major tranfers and 3 star recruits for a reason. Many are outplaying their rankings, but they are still flawed players.
 
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navery12 said:
Yeah he had 16 against Auburn, but he's also had 14 and 15 point games against Butler and Georgetown within the past 4 games. But if your expectation is for him to only go up from 16 points and 100% shooting from 3 throughout the season then I'm not sure what to say
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That’s ok, I’ll say it for you. The first half of the season so far he averaged almost 11ppg, since then he’s averaged 6ppg, ok Mr. Linear Up? Oh wait, let’s start comparing the perimeter defense of Auburn to Georgetown…………
 
Freshman, regardless of potential or ranking always get a pass. Not sure where the criticism or negativity is coming from. He was not D1 ready, especially Big East when he arrived. He's still learning that the high school moves, plays, etc.. don't work in college requiring him to change his game and adjust. He's got the skills, potential and sweet looking stroke to take him to the next level.

Its about waiting for his confidence to match his skills, and of course for him to figure this higher level of play out.
 
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CONN78SEJ said:
That’s ok, I’ll say it for you. The first half of the season so far he averaged almost 11ppg, since then he’s averaged 6ppg, ok Mr. Linear Up? Oh wait, let’s start comparing the perimeter defense of Auburn to Georgetown…………
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And I will say it for you: you think he sucks and have given up all hope on him before the end of January in his freshman year, which began with an injury.

Noted.
 
Kitaman said:
Freshman, regardless of potential or rank always get a pass. Not sure where the criticism or negativity is coming from. He was not D1 ready, especially Big East when he arrived. He's still learning that the high school moves, plays, etc.. don't work in college requiring him to change his game and adjust. He's got the skills, potential and sweet looking stroke to take him to the next level.

Its about waiting for his confidence to match his skills, and of course for him to figure this higher level of play out.
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He was sensational early on. I think that turnover in Atlantis really messed with him. He was painfully awful after that game. He has looked better as of late. We can tone down the Bouk comparisons though. Hawk is nowhere close to ready for the NBA.
 
8893 said:
And I will say it for you: you think he sucks and have given up all hope on him before the end of January in his freshman year, which began with an injury.

Noted.
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……and I said the following earlier in the thread ok idiot? Noted
CONN78SEJ said:
Even when his three point shot is off, he definitely contributes and scores in other ways.
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CTBballfan243 said:
What he did 5 days ago does nothing for UConn during current game. Frankly if he’s not knocking down up shots he brings nothing to the table.
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You originally said he “hasn’t been hitting his threes” so I assumed you missed a game a few days ago so actually my reply was fine. You don’t like him, he sucks to you so he must. He’s a freshman Polleys in his 5th year. I like who Polley is as limited as he’s been, happy he stayed. But I also know who’s career we will eventually remember more. Growing pains I still think he will be big in games coming. Not all but some.
 
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