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Hawkins DNP 2nd half vs DePaul?

CONN78SEJ said:
That’s ok, I’ll say it for you. The first half of the season so far he averaged almost 11ppg, since then he’s averaged 6ppg, ok Mr. Linear Up? Oh wait, let’s start comparing the perimeter defense of Auburn to Georgetown…………
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I actually respect the fact that you lied about his stats because you didn't think I'd check them. The first half of the season he averaged 7.5 points in 18 minutes. Second half of the season he's averaged 5.4 points in 12 minutes. So he's actually scoring more the 2nd half of the season, just getting less minutes
 
CONN78SEJ said:
……and I said the following earlier in the thread ok idiot? Noted
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Fair enough; I apologize for exaggerating your position.

I am admittedly flabbergasted by the over-analysis to which he has been subject in his very short college career, and I apparently conflated some of the other anti-Hawkins comments with yours.

I have no problem with the way Hurley is handling him now. He is getting a chance in every game--and pretty early on last night--which tells me that he must be earning it in practice. Earlier in the season I expected that he would have earned a starting position by now, but that obviously hasn't happened and I'm not sure it will this season. But I still expect him to shoot well more consistently than he has, which is what I meat with my initial "progress is not linear" comment.
 
Took Hawkins about 5 second to release his final shot of the game. I don't think Hurley like that.
 
navery12 said:
I actually respect the fact that you lied about his stats because you didn't think I'd check them. The first half of the season he averaged 7.5 points in 18 minutes. Second half of the season he's averaged 5.4 points in 12 minutes. So he's actually scoring more the 2nd half of the season, just getting less minutes
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You are full of poo poo. I’ll bet you do your own taxes too.
 
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navery12 said:
Then what games were you using to get to 11 points per game for the first half?
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Sorry, my mistake, only used the first three games of the season to get to almost 11ppg (10.7) when he was drilling everything from beyond the arc. My original point in this thread was that his 3 point shooting has declined since the beginning of the season. Maybe a freshman 2nd half wall? Who knows?
 
This is such a crazy thread. The kid will be fine over time. He has a great shooting stroke and good athleticism. When it clicks, he will average mid teens, I would guess. The talent is there. He just needs to tighten things up a bit. He's an absolute weapon if on the floor with 2 other legit shooters.
 
I know it’s a message board and people get spun up about things, but Hurley’s message is make him play you. Well Hawkins is meeting that bar. He’s getting some run. But it isn’t Hurley’s job to worry about Jordan Hawkins’ minute management when he’s in a dogfight on the road in the BE. The kid was bricking shots that were open looks. I hope he torches Creighton for 20. But it wasn’t working for him last night.
 
I think his inability to control the ball dribbling is also affecting his PT. Not solid with it.
 
PAHusky said:
Hawkins has terrible handles right now.

I like his hustle on d lately and he was unlucky his threes weren’t falling yesterday but Polley is definitely contributing more at this point, easy decision for the second half.
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Handle is the reason why Hawkins is and NBA prospect and Polly is not

I like Polly, I wish him nothing but the best, when his shot is on he's very good, and he too will earn a good living playing basketball abroad. He's not better than Hawkins. I trust time will do it's thing.
 
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willie99 said:
Handle is the reason why Hawkins is and NBA prospect and Polly is not

I like Polly, I wish him nothing but the best, when his shot is on he's very good, and he too will earn a good living playing basketball abroad. He's not better than Hawkins. I trust time will do it's thing.
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willie99 said:
Handle is the reason why Hawkins is and NBA prospect and Polly is not

I like Polly, I wish him nothing but the best, when his shot is on he's very good, and he too will earn a good living playing basketball abroad. He's not better than Hawkins. I trust time will do it's thing.
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If Hawkins' handle is getting him to the NBA I wouldn't want to be his agent. He's got a lot going for him as a player but as a combo guard his current handle is atrocious, not sure what games you're watching.
 
I don't get mad when Hawkins makes mistakes because he oozes with talent and needs to be given as many minutes as the team can spare to get him game reps. There aren't many freshmen that come along that force you to scan the 5 on the floor out of each stoppage to see if they are in the game. If you think this team can make a deep March run without him contributing you haven't watched most of the games vs. worthy opponents. On a team that is much more comfortable, even going out of it's way, to play painfully close games vs. good teams, he's the wild card that can blow games open if given the opportunity. If you think this team turned the corner by blowing out Butler and Georgetown and can now shrink its bench for an absurdly crowded stretch of basketball, you don't really know this team.
 
On a team that was not NCAA bound I would just play Hawkins at least 30 minutes a game because game experience would be good for him. We can’t afford to do that.
 
PAHusky said:
If Hawkins' handle is getting him to the NBA I wouldn't want to be his agent. He's got a lot going for him as a player but as a combo guard his current handle is atrocious, not sure what games you're watching.
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Polley seems like a poor mans Rashad Anderson. If Hawkins ends up just a poor mans Ray Allen, I’ll take it. But I’d much rather hope he’s a Ray in the making.
 
UConn3432 said:
I don't get mad when Hawkins makes mistakes because he oozes with talent and needs to be given as many minutes as the team can spare to get him game reps. There aren't many freshmen that come along that force you to scan the 5 on the floor out of each stoppage to see if they are in the game. If you think this team can make a deep March run without him contributing you haven't watched most of the games vs. worthy opponents. On a team that is much more comfortable, even going out of it's way, to play painfully close games vs. good teams, he's the wild card that can blow games open if given the opportunity. If you think this team turned the corner by blowing out Butler and Georgetown and can now shrink its bench for an absurdly crowded stretch of basketball, you don't really know this team.
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Akok is big man foul trouble insurance and may get decent match ups against some teams. Polley and Hawkins need some run because they can hang a bunch of points on an opponent in a hurry. Gaffney backs up Cole and just needs play within himself. Does a pretty good job at the line. I wouldn’t shorten the bench, but continue to get kids minutes earned in practice.
 
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inWV said:
Polley seems like a poor mans Rashad Anderson. If Hawkins ends up just a poor mans Ray Allen, I’ll take it. But I’d much rather hope he’s a Ray in the making.
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RayRay said:
Does anyone know if he was injured? He seemed fine up until literally the last second of the first half when they pulled him for that last play of the game.
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No he’s just terrible
 
So in desperation Hurley told Hawkins just to jack it in the last 3 minutes. Even contested he made 3’s, scored 9 points. Why isn’t he an offensive option during the game? He can score.
 
jibsey said:
So in desperation Hurley told Hawkins just to jack it in the last 3 minutes. Even contested he made 3’s, scored 9 points. Why isn’t he an offensive option during the game? He can score.
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Because there are games where he's tried the same thing and missed all those shots, along with turning the ball over on other possessions.

As frustrating as this game was, Hawkins showed some real toughness and that's a great sign moving forward.
 
jibsey said:
So in desperation Hurley told Hawkins just to jack it in the last 3 minutes. Even contested he made 3’s, scored 9 points. Why isn’t he an offensive option during the game? He can score.
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He can’t dribble. He got stripped from behind which was predictable and embarrassing. It was nice seeing him hit a few threes against the backup guards on Nova though.
 
UofCT said:
He can’t dribble. He got stripped from behind which was predictable and embarrassing. It was nice seeing him hit a few threes against the backup guards on Nova though.
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At least he was able to hit the threes.
 
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